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October 22

Table of contents lost when logged in

I noticed this just today. Perhaps it's a temporary glitch. When I view a page while not logged in, the page's Table of Contents is generated in the usual way from the subheads. When I log in and return to the same page (or any page), the Table of Contents does not appear. I haven't changed a Preference that I know of. Any ideas? Tawagoto 01:41, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

The only reason i can think of why the TOC wouldn't appear at all is if you have changed the preferences. Even if you don't remember changing any preference, it may be worth going to your "my preferences", click on the "Misc" tab, and check if the "Show table of contents (for pages with more than 3 headings)" box is ticked.

If the TOC doesn't appear, but there's a small box with "Contents [show]", then you should click on the "[show]" bit. --`/aksha 01:47, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I didn't notice that option this was there. Tawagoto 17:48, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

What to do - I believe a page should be moved, but may not even be worth keeping

I believe that John Lewis (department store) should be moved to John Lewis (department store) branches as that titl better reflects its content. However I'm not sure if it is even noteworthy at all; should I simultaneously nominate it for renaming and deleting, and see what the consensus is, or is there a special procedure for this.

Also, I am an employee of the John Lewis Partnership, and as such a co-owner of this. Does this mean I shouldn't touch any pages related to it to avoid adopting a [WP:POV|POV]]? So far I've added one article related to it, and I left a message on the associated talk page declaring my interest and left the message on the talk page of another user who had it on his todo list, asking him to check for POV. Is this sufficient, or should I refrain entrely to avoid falling foul of the rules?

Finally, sorry for the newbie questions, but thats just what I am. Many thanks, Davidprior 02:14, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

1. Be bold. Move the page, then nominate it for deletion.
2. It does not mean you cannot edit the articles, certainly not. It does mean you should be careful when you edit the articles. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 03:30, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Uploading Image

I didn't realize that you sent me a message. I was just trying to format my bio. I uploaded my picture, but I can't find it. How do you get the photo next to my name? Thanks, GaryGHuminy 04:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, your biograpy has been deleted under Wikipedia's Criteria for speedy deletion criterion A7 (biography that does not assert the importance or significance of the subject). All articles on Wikipedia must be about notable subjects, and all statements must be verifiable, and cited from reliable sources. Also, please take a look at our autobiography guidelines. Thanks, Tangotango 04:33, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Image reverted to previous version, but not appearing in articles

The image at Image:EmilyTTTE.jpg was reverted, due to a user initiating an edit war (on Railway engines (Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends)) without discussion, and changing the image at its source. This change was reverted.

However, since reverting, the image has not been appearing within articles. It links to the "image page" without a problem, but the image itself does not appear. Assistance would be appreciated. Gonzerelli 05:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I just went to Railway engines (Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends) and the picture appeared fine. Maybe it's just a problem with your computer (caching a version of the page when the picture wasn't there?). It defintely works fine for me. --`/aksha 02:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Literary Criticism

For a Literature project, I have to find some sources of literary criticism for The Picture of Dorian Gray. Unfortunately, I havent' been able to find any. With credible sources taking priority, are there any pages/links of literary criticism. Thank you.

Not sure. Try this question over at humanities reference desk. The help desk is for questions regarding use of the wikipedia. —Mitaphane _talk 14:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Can I search Featured Articles for a specific topic?

I am a new Wikipedian preparing my first article. It is about a 17th century English colonial cemetery in Connecticut that has not been written about in Wikipedia. I am looking for good examples to follow. How can I see a list of Featured Articles (if there ever were any) that deal with cemeteries? --OWL 13:18, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

There isn't a direct way to search featured articles only. However, you can browse a list at Wikipedia:Featured articles. Oakland Cemetery is the only article with the word "cemetery" in its name, so perhaps that can provide you with a start? --McMillin24 _contribs^talk 13:53, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! --OWL 14:05, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Image:Iraq demography.jpg

This map shows in the article about the Iraq Commission - maybe elsewhere, since it's not specific to that. (It's an excellent map, BTW.)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/Iraq_demography.jpg

There is a color of "light blue" (my words) that shows on the map around Amarah in southeastern Iraq -- and between there and Nasiriah running down to near Basra.

The map legend does not identify what that color means.

Can someone check that and put the color in the legend, if appropriate.

Thank you, Joe Halbach,Sr Nassau Bay, Texas.

[NOT INTENDED AS ARTICLE CRITICISM NOR FOR PUBLICATION]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/Iraq_demography.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Iraq_demography.jpg

Well the image has no stated source. Looking at the wikicommons page it was uploaded by user Mesopotamia. I'm guessing he's the same person as User:Mesopotamia by looking at his edit history. Try asking him about it. —Mitaphane _talk 14:30, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

14:34, 22 October 2006

Carpetbagger article

(UTC)Rlboone1917ro←––-§–—…°≈≠±−×÷←→§Rlboone1917 14:34, 22 October 2006 (UTC)r§14:34, 22 October 2006 (UTC)14:34, 22 October 2006 (UTC)~~r14:34, 22 October 2006 (UTC)Rlboone1917rI tried yesterday to post an extension to your “carpetbagger” page and decided it was meant only for mensa people or rocket scientists, so I gave up.

What I tried to submit is verifiable by several books, an historian, and by my personal records. My flight log book which was kept daily is in my possession.

IIf this interests you the best was to ”talk” would be by e-mail because I am rather new to the computer and do have some difficulty with it.

Robert L. Boone [street address redacted]

Telephone # [removed]

I'm not sure I understand the problem you're having. If you're having trouble using Wikipedia, check out Wikipedia:Introduction and Wikipedia:Tutorial for a general overview of how to do things. Also, I've removed your telephone number -- communication on Wikipedia is done through user talk pages, never over the phone and rarely be email. -Elmer Clark 02:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Roman Numerals

Hi: What is the preference of showing the possessive of a Roman numeral? What if the George IV's ... or George IVs .... I am very curious about this. I came across one the other day, but left it alone (III's). Since I am on the same subject: NASA's or NASAs? How would I show plural on the above examples? (NASAs?)

Regards, LarryBH

's would indicate possession. It is NASA's space shuttles, but there aren't multiple NASAs. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 17:28, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your assistance. LarryBH

Navigation bars

I noticed on some wiki pages that on the bottom there is a navigation box for all pages relevant to the main wiki...is it possible to create one, and if so, how would I be able to do it?

I think you talking about Templates. Just check that out. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 17:30, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

More specifically there is {{Succession}}. Or did you mean something like {{United_States}}? If so click on edit and look at their source code. Shinhan 05:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Fruit of the poisionous tree doctrine

I posted a situation that is confusing to me and to tell you the truth is just plain scaring the hell out of me and am asking for input from persons who may have some feedback regarding my situation. Perhaps this website is not what I believed it was for, and that was having some open communications with others that may be able to lend an opinion or assistance in where to locate that assistance.

Rusty —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rusty42 (talk • contribs) .

Sorry, we are a collaborative online encyclopedia, not a forum to gather opinions from people. You may have better luck elsewhere on the Internet. Good luck, Tangotango 17:45, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

It would perhaps be helpful if you gave more explanation to clue people into just what you're talking about. Apparently, from your talk page, you created an article and it was deleted due to a lack of indication of notability. I'm not sure why this should "scare the hell out of you". You're not in any kind of "situation"; as far as I can see you're not being threatened with banning or blocking or any other sanction; you merely attempted an article contribution which was judged not appropriate. It might even be possible to create a better article about that subject (I have no idea exactly what it is since the article is deleted) that would be kept. And you should sign your posts. *Dan T.* 17:45, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

FYI, the deleted article concerned a real life situation the user was experiencing. It was a first-person account of what happened to them, and not a Wikipedia threat. Cheers, Tangotango 17:50, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Note that we already have an article on Fruit of the poisonous tree.--Fuhghettaboutit 18:01, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Image question still confusing

Copy of the answer and my further confusion on this topic. Still unsure, still need clarification.

This was a question of mine in the last set of questions. Got an answer, partial, and followed on at that place. Nothing further. So I copy the answer and my further querry here, hoping for clarification. --Dumarest 18:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

We don't accept "Wikipedia-only" images, any more than we would accept "Wikipedia-only" text. They're not free content. Low resolution versions that can be used commercially and allow derivatives are absolutely fine, but we need a specific license (GFDL, CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, etc.). Once we have that, you would add the license template to the image description page. Note that the email indicating the license release should go to permissions AT wikimedia.org, not to you. I hope that this clears everything up. Jkelly 16:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Fine, that is what I sort of thought. The permission is full, except that the image I upload must be the low resolution item [with the copyrigtt holder identified so that if a full resolution version is wanted, the 'owner' can be contacted. But I gather the e-mail MUST be from the copyright holder to Wiki, not fron copyright holder to me and I forward it to Wiki? --Dumarest 16:48, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

This page has been blanked as a courtesy.

Editor Review question

If nobody has reviewed me at my editor review for a while, am I allowed to delete the current reviews there and move my request to the top of the page so it would get more attention? I'd really like to know more about what people think about my contributions. --The Great Llama^{(speak to the Llama!)} 21:49, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't actually have an answer to your question. But i do have a suggestion if you're just wanting more people to reply to your reviews. I've noticed another editor who added something like "now on editor review" (with a link to their review page) onto their signiture. It seems to be a good idea - if you're just wanting more people to review you. --`/aksha 02:08, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. --The Great Llama^{(speak to the Llama!)} 21:26, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Help needed to recover/salvage recently created page.

I have has several attempts at creating and saving a new page but it is not found on the site. I have tried several of the 'help' email contacts but have hd no response from anyone. Can someone please assist me to recover the page 'Police Rugby League (Victoria)'. Thanks, —The preceding unsigned comment was added by VPRLC (talk • contribs) .

Do you mean Police Rugby League (Victoria)? It was deleted October 14 since it apparently did not make any claim about the notability of this league (see Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, point #7 under "articles"). In general, you can find out what happened to a deleted article using the deletion log, see special:log/delete. -- Rick Block (talk) 22:41, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

YES that is the page I was talking about. The page was in reference to the Police Rugby League Club of Victoria, a first for the state of Victoria and notable for many reasons. It contains the same type of content and information as other sports/club pages on the site. I am unsure why my page was deleted, yet others exist that are no different to this one. Can you tell me please how I can have it included on the site as others have obviously been able to do. Thanks, VPRLC.

At this point, the page has been tagged for deletion as a recreation of a deleted page. I've added a notice that you'd like to discuss this. I'll leave a note on your talk about what to do now. -- Rick Block (talk) 01:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, although I am still confused about it. Check out Oxford Cavaliers Rugby or London Skolars, these are just 2 of many rugby league clubs who have pages with the same content as our clubs page. Why are some ok and ours isn't. I can see no difference between them. VPRLC 03:23, 23 October 2006 (UTC) VPRLC

Rick, can you help me please with a direct link to my deleted page as I can not find it with a search under user name and article. This is becoming a bit too much trouble I think, for something that should have been reasonably straight forward. VPRLC 11:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Imitation

On Talk:Dalip Singh IP 204.42.25.213 has imitated other users and made personal attacks against me. I left the npa2 template on his talk page, but is there any punishment for imitating other users? THL 22:19, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Given that personal attacks are very against the rules, i would think so. You should report your problem to Wikipedia:Personal attack intervention noticeboard. --`/aksha 02:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

They had never been warned before, or edited for that matter. I went to report it, but I read that they had to have received both the npa2 and npa3 templates. I gave them the npa2 template, but I am wondering if imitation is a violation in itself. I had finally brought a long and bitter feud to an end without having to get 2 very good editors banned, and this person is trying to stir it up again. I would like this IP banned, but I can't get them banned for the PA alone. Would the fact that they imitated another user give me the right to report them despite them not being warned before hand? THL 03:17, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

adding pictures

I'm a member, and I've noticed that there are alot of articles about important people that do not have pictures. When I go to "edit," there is no way to add a picture. How do I add pictures?Tiger4038 23:04, 22 October 2006 (UTC)Tiger4038 (member)

To upload an image or other file to Wikipedia, go to Special:Upload (found as "Upload file" on every page's left sidebar toolbox). Before you upload anything, be sure to read the information presented on the upload file page and at Wikipedia:Uploading images. Very few images on the Internet are appropriate for use on Wikipedia, given copyright laws. McMillin24 _contribs^talk 23:10, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm a smiley. Cheers!

For details on how to add an image to an article, see Wikipedia:Extended image syntax. The most common way is to do it like this [[Image:[name of image]|thumb|A short text describing the image]]. So for instace, if I want to add a smiley to a page, I write [[Image:Smiley.svg|thumb|I'm a smiley. Cheers!]]. The result can be seen on the right. However, as Mcmillion24 says, be SURE that you understand the copyright reasons first! Oskar 23:43, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

And be sure to add <nowiki>

at the end (as has been done here) if you don't want the next section to overlap into the section containing the image. --hydnjo talk 23:59, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Or you can use {{-}}. Chris M. 00:19, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Ooh! Thanks that's easier to remember :-) --hydnjo talk 00:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)