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March 28

Links being removed - Why??

I have been adding legitimate external links. Not spam, completely legit. and someone removes them and posts a nasty note saying I am spamming. There is no way to respond to this person so I am posting here in hopes of finding out what the problem is. I am posting to George Clooney/External links and my site is ClooneyNetwork.com. It is a fan site just like the other fansites listed. There is no reason why this link should be removed. Is there a way to email the person who keeps removing my links?

If you want to add a fansite, you have to discuss it on the talk page first--$UIT 00:41, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I do not see any fansites listed on that page. Fansites as a general rule add nothing to an article for "further reading", and so are generally excluded from the external links section. -Wooty Woot? contribs 01:52, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

The Wikipedia guidelines are that at most one fan site be used per article, so it sounds as if the article needs a major clean up. Notinasnaid 07:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and since it is your site, you must never ever add a link yourself. That's considered a conflict of interest. (See WP:COI, WP:EL guidelines). Notinasnaid 07:52, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

That's interesting, where is the guideline relating to fansites? I've seen articles with up to 10 different fansites listed so it would be useful to quote something when I remove them. Crazysuit 22:10, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

See WP:EL#Links normally to be avoided, paragraph 10. Corvus cornix 23:15, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place, all I can see is a guideline about social networking sites, forums, etc? Crazysuit 15:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Fan pages are social networking sites. Corvus cornix 20:55, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, it's your site right? If it so, I agree with Notinasnaid Shindo9Hikaru 00:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Getting my request taken

Dear Wikipedia, What do I have to do to get my request taken? On October 8, 2006, I put in a request for an article on adult model Nicole Oring. And I followed the proper procedures. It is now five months later, and I STILL have not gotten my request taken! You have entries on other Asian glamour models, including Teanna Kai, Akira Lane, and Felicia Tang, so why doesn't Nicole get an entry? There was an extensive article about her on AVN.com in August 2006, if you need sompelace to start. There are some poor souls who have been waiting more than two years to get their requests taken. I haven't gotten there yet, but it still sucks that it's taking so long! I had other requests too, but what's the point if nobody is bothering to answer? Please? Pretty please? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.67.234.80 (talk) 01:43, 28 March 2007 (UTC).66.218.17.15 02:50, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

AfC has a huge backlog. I don't see your request in the archives, do you know the exact date? -Wooty Woot? contribs 01:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

It was October 8, 2006 and it is under Wikipedia:Requested articles/Culture and fine arts#Celebrities and cast & crew members under N. Hello? Thank you for your quick and speedy response to my request! In case you haven't guessed, I'm being sarcastic! I answered your question Wednesday! Not only have you not responded, my request STILL hasn't been taken! What's going on? I have been checking and checking this page frequently for the last few days!````

Why not just be bold and create the article yourself if nobody else is interested in doing so? The whole point of Wikipedia is that anyone can contribute! Casper Gutman 09:35, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Archbishop David I. Hartman

I am trying to attach my photo with my biography. I do not know how to accomplish ths; please help--Archbishophartman 01:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• WP:IMAGES should probably answer your question--VectorPotential^Talk 02:12, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

You do know that editing an article about yourself (or a company with which you are affiliated) is regarded as COI? This history shows that you created the article in its entirety. Adrian M. H. 10:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Schools

I recently tried to wikify an article on this high school in India. I have a couple questions about it.

• It's wikified enough now, right? The tag can be taken down?
• It was tagged as a less than notable biography in February. I tried to change it, but apparently WP:Schools is defunct. Does this mean that (practically) all schools are notable (therefore the tag should be taken down)?

-Haikon 02:08, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• Seems wikified enough, I've therefore removed {{wikify}}, I'm not so sure about the notability though, schools are a bit of a gray area as far as WP:V is concerned. There is also Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools if you're interested--VectorPotential^Talk 02:10, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow, that was fast. Thanks. -Haikon 02:15, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

help with damaged page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skiing can someone please revert the damage, thanks

--SKirthova 02:29, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for reporting the problem. Mike Dillon 02:32, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

thx :)) someone had a lot of time on their hands... --SKirthova 02:45, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

That may be true, but reverting those changes didn't demonstrate that. It didn't take more than a minute to revert. See Help:Reverting for more information. Mike Dillon 03:03, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

thx, hmm I thought only admins can revert, well that was helpfull Mike --64.7.152.136 12:33, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Headline text

how to download a page from this website?

You can copy the text and pictures of a page and paste it in to a word processor like Microsoft Word. If you don't have MS Word than you can right-click your mouse and select "save page as..." to save the entire page. If you can provide us with more info (like what OS eg. Windows, Mac) on your situation then we can better assist you. Hope this helps! -- _Hdt83 ^Chat 03:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Pam Pinnock article

HI know you guys are very busy but I cant seem to get Pam Pinnock article to look like the other articles. There is no content block visible and I tried to add her book cover to the article and it is not visible unless you click on my contributions. Is there away to get someone to help by edting the page. I have spent hours and cant get it to work out

It's always nice if you wikilink the page you want people to go to, to save them a bit of time. Pam Pinnock. Anchoress 04:26, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

What are the "other articles"? By "content block" do you mean an {{Infobox Writer}}, or another infobox template (I suspect you do)? Click the "edit" tab at the top of one of "the other articles" and look at its wikitext. You will see code that creates the infobox (if the other article has an infobox). Also, Talk:Pam Pinnock should have a {{WPBiography}} template, so I added one. For an example of a well-developed biography article about a writer, see Sidney Sheldon and Talk:Sidney Sheldon, and visit Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography to learn how to edit biography articles. Also please sign your posts here by typing four tildes ~~~~ after your message. --Teratornis 05:49, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I added a {{Infobox Writer}} to the Pam Pinnock article. I don't know values for some of the fields. Hopefully other editors will fill them in. --Teratornis 06:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Debate on Wikipedia

Is there a centralized page linking to the various debates which occur on Wikipedia, such as Articles for deletion and Requests for adminship? If not, there definitely should be. If so, it should be better publicized as "yet another way to help" on such pages as Contributing to Wikipedia. $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 04:07, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

The deletion debates are listed here: WP:XFD. Viridae^Talk 04:17, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but I'd actually known about that. Sorry I didn't make my question clearer, but... Do you know if there's a more comprehensive portal even than that? $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 16:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't think so. You could always write one, if you're interested. --ais523 16:55, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

There isn't, but the WP:Village Pump and the WP:Community sanction noticeboard are two places where discussions about policy etc happen. Anchoress 20:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the additional tips! *Rolls up sleeves* *pauses* *Unrolls sleeves* All right, give me at least a week on this. $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 22:49, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Referencing

Ok, suppose I have a book, and there are many pages with information I want to reference. Instead of typing the entire {{cite book}} reference over and over again with the different pages, how can i just write the {{cite book}} once since its the same book for all the different pages and just have wikipedia somehow show that when you click on the first reference you are looking at this page number, and when you click on the second reference you are looking at these pages numbers, etc... hope this makes sense hehe (:O) -Nima Baghaei (talk) 04:32, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

If I understand what you're saying - I don't believe you can do this. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 08:49, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

You don't have to repeat the entire entry, you can use forms like op cit. Here's an article that does that a lot: Vinayakas. Notinasnaid 08:53, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I've seen pages before where they combine abbreviated in-line cites with a full bibliography, such as Saint Patrick where the Notes section gives abbreviated citations by author and page while the References section gives the complete cite book info. If the pages you wish to reference fall close together you could also cite the chapter or page span for several instances. --tjstrf talk 17:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Unless I misunderstand the original question, I think this should do what is desired. Casper Gutman 09:45, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Firefox doesn't display images

When attempting to view images in Firefox 2, I always get a message to the effect that the .jpg file cannot be displayed because it contains errors. I did find a section, under the present subject/headline, on the Wikipedia troubleshooting page, but the solution given there is not usable, since Firefox 2's "Tools" menu does not contain an "Options" submenu nor any of the checkboxes mentioned in that article, nor can I find any such selections anywhere in Firefox's menu structure. You may want to update the troubleshooting section to reflect the situaton with the current Firefox version.

What IS the solution to this problem with Firefox (other than using a different browser?

66.222.245.65 04:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• I don't know how to help you, but just thought I'd tell you that I'm using Firefox 2 and it's working perfectly fine. Where's this troubleshooting page anyway? I'd want to check against mine since I can find an "Options" submenu. --Jellyfisho?^talk! 05:12, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Creating an account at wikipedia:ja?

I want to link relevant articles from the wp:ja page to wp:en (like [ja: 少年アリス (坂本真綾)][1] to Shounen Alice) but apparently w:ja has blocked my IP address. (Stupid proxy thing I think!) I thought of creating an account but I'm not allowed to as well. How do I get around this problem? (I would ask an administrator there but I can't read Japanese.)

By the way, is there a way to link articles to wp:ja from wp:en without resorting to stuff like [2]?

Thanks much, Jellyfisho?^talk! 05:06, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

You can link from wp:ja to wp:en via [[:ja:page title]]. As for the other thing, I'm not sure. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 15:01, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for that info! --218.186.9.1 16:06, 28 March 2007 (UTC) Oops, forgot to login. --Jellyfisho?^talk! 16:09, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Watching several categories

Hi! We would like to watch the contents of several (similar, overlapping but no all-encompassing) categories simultaneously. I tried several combinations of category-link formats in User:Saintrain/RCCats and tried Special:Recentchangeslinked/User:Saintrain/RCCats but none seemed to work. (Special:Recentchangeslinked/Category:Wine works as hoped, but because of the inconsistencies of wikicategories (Shocked! Shocked I say!) it would be nice to see all the updates for several cats together on one page without redundancies.) And the sub-cats, too

My preference would be to have these on a non-watchlist page; i.e. all the cat:dancexxx results on one page, all the cat:winexxx on another, etc., but I'm easy.

Are such things possible? Thanks. --Saintrain 05:20, 28 March 2007 (UTC) & 06:15, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

P.s. When I add a cat to my watchlist, it doesn't seem to do anything!? Is that expected?

• When you add a category to your watchlist, it keeps an eye on the content of the category, not the pages the cat is added to or removed from. If you want to watch cats properly, there should be a link to a script at the bottom of my userpage. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

1. Thanks MGMage. I saw your script before but misunderstood what it did. Looks cool. But sub-cats have to be added individually, yes?
2. I test-added two cats I "watch" to a userpage. The page showed up on the cat pages but NOT on my watch page!? It seems only changes made to the cat PAGE display. Oh well. --Saintrain 19:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Reporting a Vandalist!

User:Philwelch is going all around WikiPedia and saying and putting cateogories that people are gay, even ones that aren't and are married.Trampton 05:57, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

Thank you, Trampton. For future reference, you should read WP:VANDAL and learn how to alert vandals that their actions are inappropriate. Also, the proper place to report vandalism is at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism.--Vbd (talk) 06:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• Can you give an example? I couldn't find any gay-related edits in a quick glance. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:34, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Gotta second that. Phil hasn't edited much at all lately, and nothing that smacks of what User:Trampton is complaining about in his most recent edits. Corvus cornix 23:18, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Page listing

Hi, I wonder if it's possible to get a listing of articles that I've started please.Johnfos 08:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• Talk to User:Interiot. I believe he runs a tool that can do this. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:30, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Foreign Language Citations

Hi, Wondering what the policy is on references cited which are not in English. For example, in the Solar updraft tower article, references 15, 16, and 17 are in Spanish. Johnfos 08:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• English languge citations are preferred (so feel free to replace them if you can find English sources that corroborate everything the source is about. Otherwise, they're perfectly acceptable. Especially for subjects that aren't widely known outside their own country. For example Chinese celebrities are more unlikely to have English sources on them than a Hollywood star. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't know if there is one, but there may well be. I use German sources sometimes and just add (German language) between the article's title/link and its publisher. Hope that helps. Adrian M. H. 11:16, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Editing

Hi I have been trying with very little luck to edit and have a page Kaizo PR re launched on the wikepedia programme, I have editied the content to ensure coherent with all rules, but what ever I do I just can't work out how to save and make go live.

Kaizo PR —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaizo (talk • contribs)

Please review Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, thanks. There was already a message to this effect on your talk page. You should absolutely not be creating pages about your own company. You did create a page once, but as it was only one sentence it was deleted ([3]). But please don't do it again! Please also remove the advert from your user page, thanks! Notinasnaid 09:45, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

For reference, what's the best procedure for dealing with inappropriate user pages? A tag? (If so, which one?) Or an MfD nom? Adrian M. H. 11:25, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

If it falls under one of the G-type reasons listed at WP:CSD, such as nonsense (G1) or spam (G11), then it can be tagged with the appropriate template. Otherwise, MfD is the way to go. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 14:59, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Veinor. Adrian M. H. 20:07, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Is it ok to remove warnings from one's own talk page?

I've seen mixed guidelines regarding this. I've seen an old archives guideline that said removing warnings from one's own talk page can be considered as vandalism, whereas I've seen another recently (can't locate the link right now though) that says it's fine to remove warnings and that the removal of a warning also confirms receipt. Please could someone clarify? Many thanks, --Rebroad 11:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• It is frowned upon. There has been some debate, and what I've seen suggests that it is no longer considered blockable vandalism by most people, but it isn't considered good practice. We all accumulate warnings in our Wikipedia careers. Owning up to mistakes is a good thing to do. Archiving really old stuff, and removing personal attacks, is entirely in order. Notinasnaid 11:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

It would be best if you archived the warnings. Whether separatly or together with the rest of you messages is up to you. See WP:ARCHIVE for more info. · AO ^Talk 11:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for the speedy replies. Can a warning template ever be considered as a personal attack - for example, a bad faith warning for a first warning? --Rebroad 11:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I assume it must be ok, as I've been told off for reverting said removals before :P Heliomance 11:59, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Is there any wikipedia guideline or policy which helps to clarify this? It would be useful to be able to cite it, for sure. Thanks. --Rebroad 12:01, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• Is there a generally-accepted procedure when a warning is replaced by multiple, multiple links such as this talk page? I'm inclined to ignore it, as the editor has obviously seen the warning that was removed.Eggishorn 19:26, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

It is absolutely acceptable and not officially frowned-upon to remove warnings (or anything else) from one's own talk page. It is not policy or even a guideline to archive talkpage contents; in fact many many admins just delete stuff they don't want from their talkpages, and in fact some admins actually delete their talkpage histories. Warnings can under some circumstances be construed as attacks. Anchoress 21:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I completely disagree with Anchoress. It is acceptable, since it shows that the user read the warning. However, depending on situation (i.e. erasing the warning, and then continuing vandalizing) it can be frowned upon. Not officially, since nothing is officially frowned upon, but it is not seen as proper. Admins should not delete their pages unless they are following the deletion policy; removing personal info is the only reason I can think to do that. No legitimate warning is a personal attack, as long as it is a warning, not an attack. Prodego ^talk 21:34, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I said it isn't officially frowned-upon, and you agree. So how are you completely disagreeing? And I've seen many, many WP:AN/I threads where people are warned for warning using warning templates, because those templates were considered an attack. Your qualification of 'legitimate' makes it more complicated, because there is a huge gray area. The closest to 'official' that I've seen is that it is frowned-upon to give an experienced editor a warning template even for a clear violation without first discussing it with her/him. Anchoress 22:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Anchoress, thanks. Would you be able to cite where you saw this please? I've been using wikipedia for over 3 years, and recently received my first ever uw-move warning on my talk page, except it was a uw-move3 with no prior discussion from the user. The wording was also very accusatory with various assumptions of bad faith. I took it to WP:AN/I, which resulted in me getting blocked, and nothing said to the user who issued the warning to me. Swings and roundabouts I guess. --Rebroad 12:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

It's been discussed numerous, numerous times. I'll look, but no promises. Anchoress 22:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Here's one, but there are numerous others. Try looking through THIS google search, which is where I found the example I left you. But I also urge you to read THIS editorial comment I left for a fellow Wikipedian; it may be best for you to just drop this issue, unfair though it may seem. Anchoress 22:45, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Edit warring and use of warning templates

If two editors are involved in an edit war, is it acceptable for either of them to leave template warnings on the other's talk page warning them to stop or they will be blocked? Many thanks in advance for any clarifcation on this. --Rebroad 11:53, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:POINT - warnings first?

1) Is violation of WP:POINT an immediate blockable offense, or should warnings be issued first? and 2) Does it apply to making a point on user talk pages when the edits are only part of an ongoing discussion between two users? Many thanks, --Rebroad 11:57, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

It depends on the severity of the violation and who has made the violation. If the violator can be linked to another vandal account, then probably they'll be banned immediately. If someone is dumb enough to carry out one of the examples listed on that policy page, then they may well recieve a straight block if an administrator catches them at it. Blocks are left to the discretion of the sysops - if you feel that something was unjustified, talk it over with them. They'll always have a reason.

For your example above, I wouldn't think that would merit a straight block, unless as before the person making the point has a history of disruption or went way too far with it. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 15:05, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• YOu can't argue in a discussion without making a point. The key with WP:POINT is that it has to be disruptive to be blockable.- Mgm|^(talk) 08:27, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

how do we report rude users?

there are some users who make bad remarks in the history page of articles. such as saying "your edit is nonsense. LOL" how would we report such users? I just think they need to learn how to be considerate and fair.

You could use Template:uw-agf on their talk page. I think it's important to use the template properly though, making it clear exactly to which edit you are referring. --Rebroad 12:03, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I disagree in part; I wouldn't use a template to an experienced editor, but I would suggest as a first step talking to them on their user talk page and asking them to be more polite, providing a few diffs. If they remain aggressive and uncivil, then think about how you might "report" them. There are a few different ways you could go, but my advice is keep it simple, to keep things from escalating. Drop a line to an active admin, asking them to review the diffs. If necessary, the admin will know how to escalate things. --Dweller 12:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Dweller, I agree that leaving warning templates isn't so appropriate when it's to an experienced user. I think the templates are good in the sense that the wording has been refined to be as non-insulting as possible. From recent personal experience, I've found it can be quite easy for warnings to be left but worded badly so as to escalate the situation. I agree a personal touch should be better, but only if one has an agreeable person touch. Cheers, --Rebroad 14:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:TEMPLAR is an essay but a damn good one. -Wooty Woot? contribs 19:38, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Brain tumour

Could you please send me an article or articles on brain tumours.

Thanks

–—…°≈≠≤≥±−×÷←→§155.232.128.10 12:59, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi! We are an encyclopedia, the whole site is, and what information we have is not sent to anyone but available right here. All you need to do to search for something is type it into the search field on the left hand side of the screen. I think what you are looking for is Brain Tumor (<---that's a clickable link). If you'd like to ask after more specific information on brain tumors, please ask any further questons at the science section of the reference desk (this page is for asking question about how to use the site), but note that users are discouraged from giving out medical or legal advice. Hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit 13:06, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Deleted entry

Good morning

I am the publisher of Northern Stars - Canadians in the Movies. From time-to-time, when we're not busy building content on our own site, we try to add the occasional link to material on Wikipedia, particularly when we believe our addition will enhance your own efforts.

Yesterday we added a link to our page on Leslie Nielsen, the Canadian-born actor, and the link was there when we checked back an hour or so later. This morning it is gone.

I'm a little curious as to who decides what? Is there some form of censorship at work? And is the film section of Wikipedia really just a shadow site of the Internet Movie Database?

Northern Stars was launched about 10 years ago, enjoys a large following in Canada, has won some awards, and is used as a reference source by people in the film and television industry both in Canada and elsewhere. We often recieve requests to reprint some of our unique content, including biographies, and the rare photographs within the Northern Stars Collection. I am curious. And a little offended.

The website can be found at http://www.northernstars.ca —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.159.197.38 (talk) 13:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

You can check the history of the Leslie Nielsen article at this page. This will let you know who decided to remove the link. You could discuss this decision on the article's discussion/talk page (there is a tab that will open the talk page at the top of each article), and invite the user who made the change to join the discussion by posting a message on their user talk page. Please don't be offended just yet. Talk to the other editor; find out his or her reasoning. They may have believed that your additional link fell into one of the categories described at Wikipedia:External_links#Links_normally_to_be_avoided. Sancho (talk) 14:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

From what I can see, the person who removed the link felt that it violated our policy at WP:EL. Please review that policy and discuss the removal on the talk page as Sancho suggested. We're here to help people use Wikipedia, not to answer questions about why different things happen. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 14:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

You should bear in mind that the guidelines quite specifically say you should not do this. That is, please do not add links to your own web site, it is considered a conflict of interest. You may propose links. Notinasnaid 21:07, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Fair use?

What, if any, fair use rational could I claim for using this image (found at [4]) for use in the company info box for the West 49 article? Sancho (talk) 13:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Use the {{logo}} template. Note that whatever you upload should be as low-resolution as possible, and it may only be used in that company's article for identification purposes only. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 14:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! Sancho (talk) 14:55, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Linking to Excel Spreadsheets or Other Files

Is there a way to link to excel spreadsheets or other filetypes?

--Joseph Kralovic 15:45, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

The only thing I can think of is uploading an image of the file or typing the information in the article. Scottydude 16:07, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm trying to set up a link to open an excel or word template so an image would not work. --Joseph Kralovic 17:09, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• Make it an external link? Excel and word templates are not usually suited to making an encyclopedia. What are you trying to do with these? - Mgm|^(talk) 08:19, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

We really shouldn't. Excel requires that you purchase Microsoft Office, thus making the link unreadable by those who don't possess the software. Corvus cornix 20:57, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

vandalism on myspace page

the myspace page needs to be reverted and i am not a general user for wiki so i dont know how to do it.. thank u for ur time brainiac007 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.125.211.169 (talk) 15:52, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

User:MartinBot found and reverted the vandalism. For information on how to revert vandalism yourself, see Help:Reverting. --ais523 16:03, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Bad langauge.

When I typed in Myspace, it said something about that Myspace is gay and it swears. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ixtoothin (talk • contribs) 16:07, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

Looks reverted to me. Perhaps related to the heading above? x42bn6 Talk 16:12, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry see this link. It was reverted. — Darkest Hour 16:15, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Sometimes people like to come by and delete articles and put their opinions there, but we normally catch it pretty fast. There are several bots and hundreds of people watching, I think. I'm watching  ;) [Mαc Δαvιs] (How's my driving?) ❖ 19:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Posting my Website on Wikipedia

Hi Wikipedia,

i need to post my website to wikipedia. It is an automotive site based in Malaysia.

How do i post up an article about my website without violating your regulations? my article got deleted because your moderator says it is blatantly advertising my company.

What are the guidelines in writing an article to serve as an an avenue to find out more about my website.

Thank you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zerotohundred.com (talk • contribs) 16:22, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

An article must be notable, see WP:NOTABLE, and must not advertise. All articles are written in an unbaised manner. I suggest you request your article, see WP:REQUEST. Scottydude 16:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

See also: COI (conflict of interest). Adrian M. H. 20:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

User Subpages

Deskana requested a deletion of my user subpages. Is this..uh...legal? Protect Tomato Rights!_{(sign the petition!)}

There's no rule against starting an MfD against pages in another user's user space, as long as there's a sensible reason given for the deletion and the deletion request is made in good faith. --ais523 16:29, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah. So, if there isn't a good reason, would it be not legal...? Protect Tomato Rights!_{(sign the petition!)}

Correct Scottydude 16:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Mmm. So, what would be a good reason? Protect Tomato Rights!_{(sign the petition!)}

The reasons listed in the MfD are OK with me. x42bn6 Talk 16:38, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

For anyone who is interested: WP:MFD#User:Da.Tomato.Dude assorted usersubpages - Adrian M. H. 20:13, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Image's file name

Can anyone tell me how to change the file name of an uploaded image file? I don't see the move button or any tweaks. Apple•_•w••o•_•r••m•_• 16:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, don't think you can. Protect Tomato Rights!_{(sign the petition!)}

You just have to upload it again with a different filename. — coelacan — 17:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Make sure you ask an admin to delete the old one if you do. [Mαc Δαvιs] (How's my driving?) ❖ 19:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Fair use?

As a member of the Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America (RPCNA), I'm familiar with the traditional Reformed Presbyterian logo and would like to see it used on various applicable pages. However, the image description claims that the image is fair use only. How can this be, since (1) the design has been around for 400 years (as noted by the image description), and (2) the banner is used by various churches, including the Reformed Presbytery in North America that denies that the RPCNA is really Reformed Presbyterian? Nyttend 17:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Using/referencing material from wikipedia

I am involved in a Chinese Community oral history project and we will be publishing a book, any proceeds will go to the elders 'welfare' fund. May I use some background information I have found here? should we acknowledged it? Many thanks,--Lorsue 17:47, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes you can. See WP:COPY#Reusers' rights and obligations. Prodego ^talk 22:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome, of course, to provide some acknowledgement. Wikipedia is an open information source, whose content is licensed under GFDL. You may wish to check the voracity of some information though, just to be safe, given that it is openly editable. See Citing Wikipedia Adrian M. H. 22:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Not exactly Adrian. The GFDL requires attribution (that is why we have the page history), and that extends to using material from a GFDL source. Wikipedia:Verbatim copying explains better. Prodego ^talk 22:41, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

How to find out changes on my watchlist quickly?

Is there a way to know about changes to articles on my watchlist instantly, or is the only way to keep checking it? Crazysuit 19:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Not that I know of. You just have to refresh it more frequently. Adrian M. H. 22:34, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I often see in an article's edit history that vandalism has been reverted within a minute by another user, and it's often someone who's edited that article before. How do they catch the vandalism so quickly? I know some users patrol the recent changes list, but how about the others? Crazysuit 01:06, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

It is the watchlist; I know from experience that it's entirely possible to catch changes on my watchlist within a minute (I check my watchlist highly frequently). --ais523 08:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I haven't actually checked this, but isn't it true that the recent changes page shows watchlisted pages in bold? If so, that would be a way. Anchoress 01:18, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Redirecting search

I would like to know how to redirect search. Specifically, the companies CDFM² and Heinlein Schrock Stearns merged to form 360 Architecture. CDFM² and HSS do not have entries, while 360 Architecture does. It would be reasonable to have any search for "CDFM²" "CDFM" "CDFM2" "Heinlein Schrock Stearns" or "HSS" to be redirected to the 360 Architecture page where they can see the evolution of the companies.

Please tell me how to do this and/or direct me to a location that explains how.

Sdkucera 19:57, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Just create a page with the sole content being #REDIRECT [[360 Architecture]] (more information on redirects can be found at WP:REDIRECT). Note that there are many other uses for HSS besides Heinlein Schrock Stearns, so the best thing to do would be to add an entry to the list there, not replace the entire page. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 20:01, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Eliminating the backlog

I am interested in eliminating the Wikipedia:backlog. I would be quite happy with myself doing that :) I don't think I can do it all by myself, so what project, or group is together that is working on that as a whole, or are we stuck with just each of the sections? Thanks! [Mαc Δαvιs] (How's my driving?) ❖ 20:05, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Section by section, which is good since you need to be an admin for a few of them. But Wikipedia:Maintenance and Wikipedia:Cleanup are good places to start. Prodego ^talk 21:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Capitalizing a name in the title of an entry

I came across an article about me in Wikipedia while googling and noticed that the first letter in my last name was lower case. How do I change it to upper case. Other than a minor grammar mistake in one sentence, I did not notice anything else that needed changing. The article is titled "Michael phillips (historian)"

- Dr. Phillips —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Drphillips2001 (talk • contribs) 21:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

I assume you mean the article "Michael phillips (historian)". Users with accounts over 4 days old can move (rename) pages. However, your account is not old enough to do that yet, so I changed the title on that page for you. Thanks for contacting us, Prodego ^talk 21:26, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Help with Formation section in Germany article

Hi. I'm having some technical difficulties with Germany. I have fixed up the Formation section on the right hand side. However, for some reason the last entry, which is German Unification and its appropriate date, is not showing up like all the other formation entries are. I believe it might be because that is the 10th entry for that section, and the code might have to be inputted differently. I hope I'm making sense. Thanks. Lord Vader 21:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

In Template:Infobox Country, there are nine fields, so you will need to add the tenth field. Check the template for any errors after editing, just to be on the safe side. Adrian M. H. 22:30, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Editing inactive essay

I've been having numerous edit wars on Wikipedia:Esperanza. I recently requested unprotection, and made this edit in order to make the essay look more unbiased. My question is: Did I handle the compromise attempt correctly? The opposing party (Dev920) still hasn't made any direct communication with me other than edit summaries. I would like to know what I'm doing wrong, and what exactly is wrong with my compromise attempt.--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 22:00, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

As a Wikipedian with marginal interest about the subject's history and who is much stressed about the various conflicts around the project, I'd say that seems like a rather appropriate edit on your part. And editors who try to discuss changes will fare better in the end than those who don't. Xiner (talk, email) 23:04, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Just my opinion, but I think editors who won't constructively engage, by explaining aggressive edits with a bit more than terse edit summaries, ought to be encouraged to find other wikis more in tune with their particular cognitive biases. Wikipedia cannot be all things to all people. --Teratornis 00:33, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Agreed with Xiner. It's a more neutral way of view. bibliomaniac15 21:07, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Lowering

What part of this code needs to be altered to move the "₪" down a bit so it does not conflict with the project page, user page and the like links? — Darkest Hour 22:14, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Suppressing Edit and quickedit

How do you supress [edit] and [edit/Quickedit] from appearing on section headers? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Andrew Hampe (talk • contribs) 22:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

__NOEDITSECTION__ But avoid using this in articles. Please sign all comments. Adrian M. H. 22:25, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm using it in the Community buliten board. sorry, forgot about signing it --Andrew Hampe | Talk 22:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Shoot. Now all of the [edit] boxes are gone. where do i put __NOEDITSECTION__? --Andrew Hampe | Talk 22:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

That is what adding __NOEDITSECTION__ does. What exactly do you want to do? Prodego ^talk 22:39, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't quite understand what you eman by "suppressing". AQu01rius (User &#149; Talk) 00:40, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

He wants to just remove the edit function from one section. I don't think you can do this, or at least I don't know how. Scottydude 02:04, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

You could try the semicolon for a similar effect. Bad form most of the time, though. Xiner (talk, email) 02:08, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Making succession boxes

How do you make succession boxes? I've seen several and want to know how to make them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Flysaucer (talk • contribs) 22:39, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

I assume you mean to put into an article? For Template:Succession box appears to be the only one. Either way, instructions are at Template talk:Succession box. x42bn6 Talk 22:42, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

And I've fixed Judah IV for you as you probably wanted to do. x42bn6 Talk 22:46, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

School Logos

Are public US high school logos copyrighted? If so, can I use them in high school articles under fair use? Thanks. Steevven1 ^{(Talk) (Contribs) (Gallery)} 22:47, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I believe that would depend upon the high school - either way, a low-resolution version of the logo used only in the school's article for identification purposes only should fall within Fair Use guidelines. Double-check WP:FAIR if you're not sure. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 22:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Public schools, I believe, are established by the US Department of Education, therefore their work should be released under the same statutes as the US Government. Don't hold me to that, but it's likely. DoomsDay349 23:07, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• Yes, you can use a school logo in the article about the school itself provided you use {{Non-free fair use in}} with a rationale. However, only work by the US government falls in the public domain. Public schools may be set up by the government, but the person who made the logo isn't neccesarily a government employee, so I'd consider them copyrighted to be on the safe side. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:14, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not understanding the article deletion process...

I was hitting "random article" and stumbled across a redirected page that is clearly vandalism. I went through the "propose for deletion" pages, but I don't understand what I'm supposed to do. Do I delete the redirect line so the original article shows up? I'm a tad confused. Thanx! Sunidesus 23:19, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Just go to that page's history and perform an undo. WP:MOVE may be what you're looking for, and if you could provide the link, then we can look into it further. Thanks. Xiner (talk, email) 23:21, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• WP:REVERT? - Mgm|^(talk) 08:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC)