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September 15

Chinese Chess Association

Dear Sir,

The email address of the Subject can't accept incoming. How can we find out what International Chess activity there is in Lijiang, Yunnan, PRC?

Thanks, Hong Dao Guang (email removed for privacy) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.161.201.56 (talk) 01:35, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

This is the help desk for the encyclopedia Wikipedia. We have an article about Chinese Chess Association but we don't have any inside information about them. I don't know Chinese but their website is at http://chess.sport.org.cn/. Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:54, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation key

What is or where can I find the pronunciation key for Zé do Caixão , pronounced "zay-do-kai-sh*w", the last syllable pronounced like shower. Mjpresson (talk) 03:17, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried WP:IPA? Stifle (talk) 13:58, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

It might also be useful to cite the language you think it is in. DOR (HK) (talk) 07:08, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Why was this article deleted?

I just looked up Jack Easter (a former australian politician) and it seems the article once existed but was deleted. This log I found however does not explain why the aticle was deleted. Can anyone find out why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.67.238.186 (talk) 06:02, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

As the deletion log says, the article was deleted by User:Rebecca, although strangely she didn't leave a deletion reason as is normally done. You should probably leave a message on her talk page to ask why, although it looks like in 2007 she deleted a lot of similar articles that were created by the same user, all of which contained practically no content - basically they all just said that such-and-such was a member of a state legislative assembly, which at the time may have met one of the criteria for speedy deletion. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 06:13, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I can't ask her because her talk page seems to be protected. Can you ask her for me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.67.238.186 (talk) 06:50, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I left a note at User talk:Rebecca. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 11:20, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I took a quick look at the article. From May 2006, to January 2007, the entire content of the article was:

Jack Easter was an Australian politician, elected as a member of the New South Wales Legislative Assembly.

Definitely a lack of notability here. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 19:39, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Doesn't that qualify as a valid stub? Being a member of a first-level sub-national assembly may meet notability requirements per WP:POLITICIAN. Admittedly references were missing but that's no reason to delete at this stage. – ukexpat (talk) 21:33, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

elected member of a state legislature is certainly an assertion of notability. I would add that admins who prevent communication by semi=protecting their talk pages are a bit off, in my opinion. DuncanHill (talk) 21:47, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I notice that her talk page has been semi-protected for over 2 years now. I have left a note asking about that. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:26, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay in getting back here. This article was one of several hundred cookie-cutter substubs created by one now departed difficult user. Many of them were created at the wrong names because the author had no idea who the person actually was; all were useless and contained no new content than what was already on Wikipedia. Thus, the article was deleted because it was useless crud; the person is definitely notable if someone wants to write a useful article on him, and I'll happily point the anon in the direction of some resources if he wants to drop me a line. Rebecca (talk) 10:13, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

DO YOU HAVE A SECTION FOR LEARNING / TUTORIAL FOR PRINT LAYOUT DESIGNER IN SAP BUSINESS ONE

DEAR SIR,

PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU A TUTORIAL SECTION FOR LEARNING

PRINT LAYOUT DESIGNER IN SAP BUSINESS ONE .

THIS REPORT IS GOOD FOR SBEs FOR REPORTING / CREATING FORMATS

MY EMAIL ADDRESS : <removed>

PLEASE GUIDE ME

THANKS JANARDHAN —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.206.61.154 (talk) 08:02, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Removed email. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 08:39, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

This is the help desk for the encyclopedia Wikipedia. You might find what you are looking for in the article about SAP Business One. If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They will be glad to try to answer questions about anything in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 08:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Niqab

Hi, I would like to add a link to the Wiktionary article for the word wikt:نقاب, but the word is enclosed in a template 'lang-ar' which breaks when I try to do that. Could the template b modified to allow links to Wiktionary or maybe to link automatically? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.88.49 (talk) 10:00, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

That may be a good idea, but for the moment I made the change in the article by simply manually coding what the template does, which then allowed the link to Wiktionary to be placed: ([[Arabic language|Arabic]]: [[Wikt:نِقاب‎|نِقاب‎]]). Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:36, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. 86.149.88.49 (talk) 10:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

account information

some one with the name of -removed-

That sounds like a hoax. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 14:49, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

olde photos for user page

Hi folks,
Kinda new here.

I've yet to embellish my userpage---indeed there's nothing in it.
I'm thinking of using an old photo I found on the internet.
I got no permission, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was decently deep in the 19th century.

I would also re-touch it a bit.

Wouldn't the copyright have expired, and related issues rendered mostly moot?

Yartett (talk) 15:18, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Should be expired. commons:Commons:Licensing should help more. Gary King (talk) 16:03, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

edit request

Please redirect Grid world to GridWorld--64.251.57.197 (talk) 15:48, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Done Gary King (talk) 16:01, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I can't find my article & I haven't received a notice of deletion

I created an article, and clicked 'save changes'

when i typed the article name under search, I was able to find it, and it looked almost exactly as it did in the preview version, however I can no longer find the article I created. Can someone help?

Mecglobal (talk) 17:50, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

See Mediaedge:cia and its history page. Another user has redirected it to a list of companies. You should ask them on their talkpage what the reasoning is behind their edit. You might also want to read WP:COI as I have doubts about your username. Regards. Woody (talk) 17:56, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

How do I ask them? Sorry, I'm new to this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mecglobal (talk • contribs) 18:07, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Cobaltbluetony did the redirect so leave him a message on his talk page: User talk:Cobaltbluetony - click the link to get to the talk page, and then edit to leave a message or click on the "Click here to start a new topic." link in the blue box at the top of the page. – ukexpat (talk) 18:13, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

One more question- Is there a way to add ke words so that your article shows up one someone serached for them? 209.90.47.10 (talk) 18:44, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Any words naturally part of the text will help with searches. Do not add words only to increase the article's exposure, though. It seems like you want to use Wikipedia to advertise your business. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 19:25, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Querie

My teacher at college said Wikipedia is not an accurate source and should'nt be used for work assignments. Your opinions? --Another US Bank (talk) 18:04, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

She's right and wrong. Wikipedia is an excellent source to find places to look for citations to sources cited within it. In other words, going to a well-cited article on a particular subject can provide a good resource by examining what it cites to—but you should be going to the sources cited rather than using the article itself as a source. She's absolutely right that you should not use Wikipedia articles, or for that matter, any tertiary source, as a direct source. Please see Wikipedia:Researching with Wikipedia and Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia for more information.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:13, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:20070621 Crown Fountain Water.JPG

Is it my browser or is there a problem with Image:20070621 Crown Fountain Water.JPG.--99.158.35.150 (talk) 19:38, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes there was. I reverted to an earlier version. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 19:51, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

taking a page live

How do I move a 'user page' article I have been working on, onto the 'live' Wikipedia?

I've been reading all the help sections and can't figure out how to do it.

This is the specific instruction I am referring to in your help section:

"Once you sign up, you'll find that you have your own user page. You can make your own area there to start working on a new article; you can get it in shape there, take your time, and only move it into the "live" Wikipedia once it is ready for prime time."

Thank you in advance for your help on this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jzmcgowan (talk • contribs) 21:53, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

If the article (or an article with the same name) doesn't already exist, you would go to the search box and type in the name of the article then click on "create the page" and paste the source from your userspace into that page. You should know that a John Fahy article already exists and isn't the same as the your John Fahy. You should look at Wikipedia:Disambiguation for dealing with this. Best, Zain Ebrahim (talk) 22:11, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Note that Zain's method, the "copy and paste move", is only legitimate as long as you are the sole editor of the page. In other cases, doing this is a violation of the GFDL which Wikipedia is licensed under, and you should instead do a proper move. When your account is autoconfirmed (currently requiring 4 days and 10 edits), you will see that at the top of pages along with the tabs like "edit this page", "history" and "watch" you will have a "move" tab. For more information see WP:MOVE. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 22:55, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Apologies - I didn't know that. I would have recommended the move but I seem to recall another user who moved his/her userpage (and not a subpage) ended up moving the user talk page as well and I wanted to avoid that nuisance. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 07:31, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

It is possible to move the user page without moving the associated talk page - just un-check the talk page box on the move page. I have probably nixed a copy and paste by editing the user page content, albeit in a relatively minor way. – ukexpat (talk) 13:41, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Viewing articles in the past

Hello! There's an event going on at my college in which students are given 50 questions to answer using the Internet. It's a competition to see who can answer the most correctly and in the least amount of time. I'm concerned about a high level of vandalism on related articles during the half-hour of the competition. Is there any way to quickly search Wikipedia as how it was, say, the day before? I suppose I could look back in the history, but that could take some time, and there could already be a few reverts that would make it a little more difficult to identify the nonvandalized material. Thanks for any advice!--El aprendelenguas (talk) 23:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't know of a way to do that but I don't think that vandalism is really a problem for you. It is almost always undone within a few seconds and is usually pretty obvious so if you do come across such an article you would know very quickly. I would say that the chances of an article containing vandalism at the time you access it is less than one in several thousand. - Icewedge (talk) 04:53, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I wonder if your college is really that excited about this competition that they would systematically vandalize Wikipedia to deceive the competitors. Assuming they are going to do this, however, perhaps the best way to do this is to find the article, then pick a random date in the history at least one week ago, or longer if you suspect vandalism has been going on for longer. Do you think they would be vandalizing for over a week? There is also this, though I haven't used it, so I can't vouch for its effectiveness. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 05:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

It's not the college itself I think might vandalize, but rather the competitors who, to give themselves an edge, might use sneaky vandalism so others get the wrong information. Though, I suppose, it wouldn't take that long to quickly check the history and view an older page (from before the start of the competition).--El aprendelenguas (talk) 21:03, 16 September 2008 (UTC)