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July 8

lost in wiki

Hello, I recently made a small contribution to the article hijab. It was deleted by an administrator that stated it lacked references. I added two, reliable and recent. The same administrator, Ohnoitsjamie, deleted it again, this time warning me against a violation of the neutral policy. She or he never said where, how or why he/she considered such principle was violated. Even if I have been consulting, and simply enjoying wiki for several years, I am a complete wiki illiterate. It was impossible for me to contact this administrator. I really believe the mentioned article fails to fully address the most relevant aspect: the purpose of Hijab. In the first lines makes a slight reference to it, but the rest of the text deals only with historical, sociological, juridical aspects. Forgive my ignorance, but I can not understand how come my contribution wasn't neutral: many other assertions appear partial, politically motivated, to me.

I paste now the contribution itself, hoping it will be accepted. More than else, I wish to know (certainly, I am certain that Ohno had the better intention while deleting my comment) why he/she believes I violated the neutral policy.

Thanks in advance!

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.140.19.246 (talk • contribs) 00:11, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I replaced the article text that you posted here with this dif, which will be easier to use because it contains your references. —teb728 t c 00:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

To 189.140.19.246: Please read WP:BRD. Making bold edits is a GOOD THING!. However, redoing the same bold edits over and over and over is a BAD THING!. My suggestion is to place the contested content on the article talk page instead of the main article so that other editors can review it and work on it; once a consensus version of your text can be reached which is agreeable to people, it can be re-added to the article. The key here is to make proper use of the article talk page to hammer out your differences. That is, after all, what it is for. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 00:50, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I have notified Ohnoitsjamie of your post at User talk:Ohnoitsjamie#Hijab. That talk page is semi-protected (probably due to vandalism) so only autoconfirmed users can edit it. The article can also be discussed at Talk:Hijab which is not protected. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:54, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Though one source was provided, the passage in general read like a point-of-view original research essay, which is not appropriate for Wikipedia. (P.S. Sorry about my talk page being protected; it's either that or doing a large range block because of one pest). OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 04:26, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

consumer behaviour

has rejuvenatin effects succeeded ?why or why not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.232.180.5 (talk) 00:52, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

What are you talking about? Algebraist 00:53, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I guess your question is about economy and not about Wikipedia. Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:59, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm guessing the questioner is talking about Rejuvenation (aging). This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Science reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 01:03, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

If you are doing your homework, please do NOT ask it here. Go to Yahoo! Answers instead. All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 13:36, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Articles relying on mostly single sources

e.g., Manchu. It relies very heavily on Rhodes for citations (10 out of 16 notes, 1 of 2 sources). Is there any policy or style suggestion, official or otherwise, that deal with these kinds of articles? A warning or notice, perhaps? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.82.143.41 (talk)

Good question. If an answer exists, it should be in the links under WP:EIW#Citesource or WP:EIW#Citeprobs. You can always add more sources to an article if you find some. If you think something is wrong with an article, you can document your concerns on the talk page, in this case Talk:Manchu. --Teratornis (talk) 01:27, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

{{one source}} ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 01:40, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Article inaccessable - link

Hello,

This page is currently inaccessable:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Rogers Tim_Rogers

when you click a link to it, it comes up with a download file box, reading:

Do you want to download this file or find a program online to open?

Name: Tim_Rogers Type: uknown file type from: en.wikipedia.org

This link doesn't work from any source including Wikipedia articles, and the search dialogue box in IE8.

I am using IE8 and windows XP.

could'nt find anywhere else to ask this question, so here it is.

hope we can get it resloved.

-PJ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.228.116.76 (talk) 02:36, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Is 'Use external editor by default (for experts only, needs special settings on your computer)' turned on in the 'editing' section of your preferences? If yes, try turning it off. Algebraist 02:40, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Reference list...?

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 14:53, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I have a problem...how do you make the reference list at the bottom of an article? I already have the references throughout the article. Reply either here or on my talk page (preferably my talk page). Thanks! Melkittycat (talk) 02:52, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

You can add {{reflist}}. See more at Wikipedia:Footnotes#Listing footnotes at the end of the article: using .3Creferences_.2F.3E_or_.7B.7BReflist.7D.7D. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:00, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a million! Melkittycat (talk) 14:36, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Ohhh I also need help with finding the picture template, and knowing whether or not it's a free picture that I can use. Melkittycat (talk) 16:00, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by the picture template but see Wikipedia:Images. You can ask about copyright issues at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:21, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok thanks I'll take a look at it and see if that's what I meant. Thank you sooo much!Melkittycat (talk) 18:08, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Are you asking about image license templates? --Teratornis (talk) 20:52, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Are you talking about the things (mostly at the top of the page) that shows a picture and has info under it? If so, that's it. And I read about getting images, would it be okay if I scanned a picture of the cover of a book and used it? Would it be considered mine, or would it belong to the author, artist, or publisher? Melkittycat (talk) 23:30, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you refer to an infobox which is a form of template and often contains an image. There are many different infoboxes. There should be documentation for the parameters (for example an image) on the template page of the infobox. Scanning a book cover doesn't give you the right to it, but it may in some cases be used under fair use in an article about the book. You can ask at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions if you give more details like the book and where you want to use it. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:18, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

See also {{Non-free book cover}} which is an image license templates like Teratornis referred to. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:22, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! And if you want to see the article I'm working on, I'll be moving it within the next couple of days (hopefully!) to The Rise of Scourge, but for now it's in here's a link: The Rise of Scourge. And again, thank you! Melkittycat (talk) 02:15, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

background check

How do I find out if a person actually graduated from penn state in the 1970's? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.171.34.25 (talk) 03:20, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Or try contacting the university? – ukexpat (talk) 03:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Minor Grammar Change

I have contributed to many Wikipedia articles, but it will not let me make a simple uppercase-to-lowercase change in a single word in the Michael Jackson article. Why not?

Thank you, Michael Daniels <e-mail redacted>—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdaniels (talk • contribs)

You should be able to make that edit (unless you edit via Tor). What goes wrong when you try? Algebraist 03:37, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Are you logged in when you try? Which word is it? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:35, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

entry test medical

My son appeared in entry test for medical learnt that the result out and displayed on web site trying hard to find but could'nt suceed. Pl help me out to finn the result.

Thanks

Farooq —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.152.44.208 (talk) 06:16, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. —teb728 t c 06:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

engineering

what is different between B.E. and B.Tech? —Preceding unsigned comment added by JIGAR PATEL 13 (talk • contribs) 07:04, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 07:08, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Change of Email Address

Hi, during the registration i provided my email address, now i want to change it for a new one (for some reasons) without changing my Login name, how is that possible to provide another email for the old account, i can not find how can edit it? Thank you in advance!--Arolga (talk) 09:36, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

If you go to Special:Preferences and look down the page of the User profile tab, there is a section titled E-mail options. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 09:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Bowler question

why must a bowler have s delivery stride instead of using a free flo wing motion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.181.103.68 (talk) 10:30, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Wikipedia:Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:35, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Regarding Kannada Movie YODHA.

Dear sir,

I want to know why YODHA kannada movie released in May-2009 is not in list of kannada films-2009..

With regards, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vishwasbr (talk • contribs) 12:32, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

The film is not listed because it does not appear that the movie has a Wikipedia article yet. In order to create an article, simply follow the directions in the templated message listed below.

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. TNXMan 13:01, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I did not ask the correct question

My original question was citations. I know how to cite source, What I do not understand is how deep I have to drill to find article citations so that I may add to it?

Is there a section in Wiki that defines policy in re business and/or living person articles as [A] if it is acceptable and [B] is there an example? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Linicx (talk • contribs) 13:01, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure what you're asking. If you're asking how to add to a citation listed in the reference section, you need to find the superscript numeral in the article itself and edit that section. You'll see the citation between a <ref> and </ref>. As for the business and living people articles, the acceptability of business articles is covered by this page and the acceptability of biographies is covered by this page and this page. TNXMan 13:29, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

In re how deep to drill: Facts on Wikipedia should be backed by secondary sources, not original research by the editor. You should have enough in the citation that any reader can determine exactly where the fact was published, preferably with page numbers for printed material, and certainly with specific addresses for web pages, all of which need to be reliable sources in themselves. In reference to business and living person articles: [A] subjects need to meet Wikipedia:Notability to have an article; businesses have Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) and people have Wikipedia:Notability (people). Note that Wikipedia notability standards are is based on a general, worldwide encyclopedia, not what would be notable only to locals. As far as acceptability: WP:RS, WP:V, and WP:NPOV are the basic content guidelines on Wikipedia. WP:Conflict of interest deals with editors being involved with the subject they're writing about. Living person articles must follow WP:BLP to avoid defamation. [B] Good examples: Wikipedia:Featured articles have to be done the correct way to get that status. Bad examples: Well, a lot of things that get speedy deleted in their first 2 hours are examples of what not to do, but you can't see them since they're deleted. --Closeapple (talk) 14:05, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Side Bar Information

I cannot figure out how to insert the bar on the right side into a page. I want to include information about when a company was founded, what type of business, key people, headquarters onto the right top of the page, next to all the other text. For example, on the Google page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google). I am not sure what this is called or how to include it in an article. Thank you. --Hritzak (talk) 13:42, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

This sidebar is called an Infobox. For a company, see the template {{Infobox Company}}. The page lists all of the available parameters that you can use to display info about a company. TNXMan 13:47, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I think you mean an infobox. See Help:Infobox. All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 13:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Featured List

Many of the FLs seem to be table-type lists. Are lists that use bullets - ordered lists, I think they're called - unsuitable for FL status? I'm a regular contributor at a certain list of this kind and would like to raise it to FL status. All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 13:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I've been involved with several featured lists. I would not say that a bulleted list will not make FL, but it would appear that most current FLs are using tables or templates. I was asked to fix some list templates, but decided to start from scratch with {{mem}}. If there is not a template that already fits your list, we can readily crate one. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 13:52, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

The list concerned is List of vegetarians. All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 13:56, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

There are some FLs without tables. See for example Timeline of Australian television for a bulleted list and List of unmade Doctor Who serials and films for an "unformatted" list. But Wikipedia:Featured list criteria mentions suitable use of tables. Many types of list information are well suited to tables. I think List of vegetarians would be hard to make featured. It's basically just a list of people which happen to have one usually non-notable thing in common. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:10, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

According to a Wikipedia page, it's a 'list article that is created explicitly because the listed items do not warrant independent articles'. Quite a mouthful. All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 10:29, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Tables are usually used because they make it possible to add some information about the subject as well. Featured lists should "comprehensively cover the defined scope" so this is necessary. FLs are also normally complete or at least near complete, and since this is not something that could ever be considered complete, chances are low on getting this to FL status. Chamal ^talk 14:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Several of the subpages of List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people have made it to FL, such as A, R, and Sa–Sc. I don't see why List of vegetarians can't make it also. Kayau, a good starting point would be to model your list off of the GLBT ones or other similar lists which have passed FLC. — jwillbur 22:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I have been thinking that　I could add the evidences/reasons/other comments about their vegetarianism. Do you think this will be possible? I will ask two other regular contributors what they think. All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 10:29, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

You could bung it all in a table, with a name, nationality, occupation and 'current status' column. Add a few bells and whistles. The 'featured list' criteria is mostly abused anyway - I've noticed they are mostly chosen on an aesthetic basis rather than how much information value they offer. Some of the references on the gay list aren't reliable, whereas only first class references are admitted onto the veggie list so it is already the better list, it just doesn't look as good. Betty Logan (talk) 12:23, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Another point to note is that at least the references on the gay list are instantly identifiable. The veggie list ones aren't. I only know they are good because I worked through them myself. If you print out the gays the references are still full references. Half the veggie ones are useless on a printed list. Each reference should be formatted in such a way that someone could print out the list and still track down the references. Betty Logan (talk) 12:34, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

The best place to continue this discussion (if you are interested) would be at WT:FL since you can get the correct opinion about the criteria and help with how to improve the article from the people who regularly work in the FL area. Chamal ^talk 12:57, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Vanishing

Resolved

If someone writes on a talk page and identifies themselves by name. And latter wishes to remove that name. Can we edit the previous threads and blank out the name. Im thinking its a right to vanish but its not coming to mind where to find the appropriate info. Thanks for your time Ottawa4ever (talk) 14:23, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, the person should have thought twice before pressing "Save page". Once it's there, it's there. You can remove the name from the current version of the page, but it will exist in the history. The only way to completely get rid of a previous edit is suppression (when did the name change?), but I doubt it will be oversighted if only a name (and not other "non-public" info, such as address) was posted. Xenon54 (talk) 14:32, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Hmm i think its probably a bit more complicated. The user is associated to a COIN incident. Which im starting to think it shouldnt be removed at least until after everything is resolved associated to the article. But leaving the text aside where he identifies that hes related to the company, can his name (and only his name) just simply be removed on the talk page just by normally editing the threads? Nothing fancy with oversight. (I should be more specific) Thanks for your time Ottawa4ever (talk) 14:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, you can simply put <name redacted> or something like that in place of the actual name. But be aware that the name is still visible in the history of the page. Xenon54 (talk) 18:15, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice Ill pass on the options Ottawa4ever (talk) 18:37, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

How do I make a case for my article's "importance"?

Dear staff,

I have attempted to establish a Wikipedia page for the online journal Slush Pile Mag: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Slush_Pile_Mag

The review has been been put on hold (what exactly does this mean?) and the following note has been left on the page:

"This suggestion doesn't sufficiently explain the importance or significance of the subject. See the speedy deletion criteria A7 and/or guidelines on web sites. Please provide more information on why the web site is worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. Thank you."

The thing is, there is a Wikipedia page for a different literary journal, Double Room: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Room, and its article does not seem to establish superior importance to that established in the Slush Pile page. To whom can I point this out?

My case for Slush Pile rests on the notable people who have already published articles in the mag. The following Wiki pages link to Slush Pile:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Collins

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Lissack

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marya_Hornbacher

I feel that this creates a need, at the very least, for a stub article, since Slush Pile has already been established within Wikipedia as a lit mag that does, in fact, merit recognition.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, and thank you so much! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.21.173 (talk) 16:01, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

first thing id keep in mind is not to use the article in comaprison with others. its helpful to have a read through Wikipedia:Other stuff exists for that. basically the best step to making importance or notability is to find some good secondary sources for the article and include them there that say why the magazine is notable. If you can put some good ones there im sure the article can make it on its own. Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:16, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

As Ottawa4ever says, just because another article does it is not justification for your article. Looking at it, there is one big difference between Slush Pile and Double Room... Double Room is an established publication (started in 2002), whereas Slush Pile is only 6 weeks old! Once it's been around a bit, I'd agree with creating an article, but as such a young online publication, it is not notable as yet. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:24, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Note the links where the box says: "See the speedy deletion criteria A7 and/or guidelines on web sites". "Review is On Hold" means that a reviewer has seen the article but not yet decided whether it should be created. That decision is waiting to see if you can provide more information, especially reliable sources to satisfy the guidelines on web sites. Existance of links to the website is not enough. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:37, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the feedback! I really appreciate it. Is there a way to keep the article in limbo, where it is, until there is an opportunity to add more reliable sources (like, after it has been reviewed) or until it becomes more established? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.21.173 (talk) 16:43, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

As the notice says, you need to provide sources within 24 hours of the notice being placed. If I was you, I'd copy the article code, and save it (in Notepad or an equivalent program), and then recreate the article at a future date. Thanks for your contribution - don't be put off working on Wikipedia because of this! We need editors, and personally I liked the article style - the problem is that the publication is not notable, and there are insufficient reliable sources of information - but then again, with a publication which has only had two issues (presumably - April and May?), you wouldn't expect there to be! May I recommend that you create a user account? See Why should I create a user account?. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:51, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Declined articles are usually not deleted. You can improve it later and request a new review. See for example the box on Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Submissions/Alexander Aniston. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:56, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I didn't know that, PrimeHunter! Thanks for the info. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 17:43, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, PhantomSteve, I will set up an account immediately. This was my first foray into the (frightening, often confusing) world of Wikipedia. I learned a lot about it and have seen several articles that I would like to edit. I'll retry this article at a later date. OneSmartNut (talk) 17:11, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Chaning entry name

The surname in my entry title, "Moya Cannon," is not capitalized, and I can't figure out how to revise that part. The body of the entry was easy enough to revise.

Donnalpotts (talk) 16:31, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

In order to correct the title, the page needs to be moved. I've done this for you, as moving pages requires that your account be autoconfirmed. TNXMan 16:35, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

You beat me to it, Tnxman! Thanks. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:36, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Account creator interface

I've requested the tools at the WP:ACC interface, so that I may help users unable to create an account using the normal process, for whatever reason, create an account. However, I haven't gotten a response yet, even though this was three days ago. What should I do - try it again, or try to contact one of the interface admins, or something else? Intelligentsium 17:09, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

You link in your post to WP:ACC but that is where you find links to the request an account interface; not where you request the ability to create accounts for others, which is here. Did you go to the right place? If you did make a request at the correct place, I know three days may seem like quite a while but on Wikipedia terms, it's not. I'd give it at least a week. But there should be no problem with you contacting one of the creation interface admin. Just as a side note, if you haven't already seen it, please see also Wikipedia:Request an account/Guide. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:04, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I know when i requested I needed to signalfy on my talk page clearly text like; title, Requested Account on the ACC account creation interface page. and text ,Ive made a request for tools for account creation. This edit is meant as a confirmation edit. Ottawa4ever (talk) 18:07, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I went here, not to WP:ACC. I've read the guide as well. All that's left is to wait, I suppose. Intelligentsium 18:17, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

What message appears when you login into the interface?

I note that your account was created on 4th May 2009. While there is no set criteria of age of account, the interface admins usually don't grant access if the account is less than 6-8 months old. Exception would be in case they personally know and trust the user in question. --59.95.110.253 (talk) 20:42, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

A message would be sent in any case I believe. Probably no one has got around to checking the requests yet. I checked on the user list for the tool and your name is not there. Chamal ^talk 07:07, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Cross-Reference Categories

Is it possible to Cross-reference categories? For example, you could take "Cities in Vermont" and "Washington County, Vermont" and get a list of only what is on both.--Metallurgist (talk) 18:32, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Go to WP:EIW#Cat and scroll down to the "Intersection of two categories:" entry. CatScan can probably do what you need. --Teratornis (talk) 20:48, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Convert/merge to commons

Will somebody please help me convert/merge these images [[File:NationalMedalofArts.jpg]] and [[File:Minute Waltz, by Chopin - Performed by Sergej Rachmaninoff.ogg]] to commons? Thanks. Fanoftheworld (talk) 18:40, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Did you try the procedure in WP:MITC? It was straightforward enough when I slogged through it. Unify your account with Special:MergeAccount, make your TUSC account for CommonsHelper, it's all in the procedure (sort of - I had to puzzle out a few details, which I duly recorded in my notes). A bit harder than the single-click solution I wish we had, but it works. Let us know if you have any problems. Also note the image categories on Commons are mostly different (and better). --Teratornis (talk) 20:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I have tried for some time ago, but I missed it all up. So I was hoping that someone will do it for me. Please. Fanoftheworld (talk) 21:32, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Did you look at my notes? I wrote details about how I figured out how to move some images to Commons. I have no special powers; what I did, you should be able to do. Wikipedia is primarily a do it yourself system. We need you to try to do this yourself, write down the exact steps you try, and record exactly what goes wrong if you get stuck. I suggest creating a user subpage like mine, User:Fanoftheworld/Notes. If you do this, then we might see a problem either in the move to Commons procedure, or in the documentation of it. Then we can improve the procedure. Wikipedia depends on all its features being usable by everyone. If you cannot use this feature, that is a problem we need to fix, because there are millions more users similar to you, and they want to use Wikipedia too. But if you really don't want to do it yourself, you might find someone to help you on Wikipedia talk:Moving images to the Commons. It looks like other people have requested moves there. --Teratornis (talk) 18:54, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Timex Clock Type Push Buttom Electric 125V 15A Timer.

–Dear Timex. I would like to know where I could buy a Timex Timer to use on my lites etc. The one that I want is: Timex Timer Model Number, TX12621X, Made in China 0648. Program repeats every 24 hours. The tabs are on the dial face and can be pushed down or up to set desired time/s. Question: Where can I buy this timer it is not on your Web-site?

Thank you, [email snipped] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.97.251.15 (talk) 20:29, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --59.95.110.253 (talk) 20:31, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

BQ

It looks like an entry keeps being reinserted at BQ that is nonsense. I left a note on the talk page, but it looks like this has been going on for some time. Where do you go to resolve this if it keeps going. I don't see the value in the entry, and it is undoubtedly offensive? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mypasswordis muscle (talk • contribs) 21:14, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

The article talk page is the place to discuss this as you have done. If that fails and the material keeps being added back without any reliable source, maybe WP:EAR is the next place to go. – ukexpat (talk) 21:18, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Looks like a throwaway account created for content dispute. Who else would give away their password in their username. There was another SPA edit to that article today[1], and this user seems to agree with their point of view[2]. hmm..--59.95.103.129 (talk) 21:34, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

<Smacks forehead> - suckered in again... – ukexpat (talk) 21:37, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

An SPA obsessed with this one item. Currently being investigated as part of a sockfarm Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Grandma Dottie which is probably only the tip of the iceberg. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots 03:06, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Copyright status of license plates

I didn't really know where on the site to ask this, since there's nowhere to my knowledge that I can ask copyright-specific questions. A recent edit to the Mississippi article added an image of the current license plate used in the state. The image was uploaded by User:Zul32, who has uploaded a number of scans of states' license plates; he collects them apparently. In the image description page seen here, Zul32 claims that he is the copyright owner of the work since he scanned the plates, which I highly doubt. This should be changed to show the true copyright holder of the design, but who copyrights plates? Are they a work of the federal government and thus under Public Domain, or do the states hold their copyrights? Or does the designer hold it? I googled "license plate copyright" and some other terms to try to figure this out, but I couldn't come up with anything solid. Does anyone know who holds these copyrights? --Dudemanfellabra (talk) 22:10, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

You want WP:MCQ. Algebraist 22:23, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Gracias :) --Dudemanfellabra (talk) 22:25, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Also see the links under Commons:COM:EIC#Copyright. The folks on Commons have accumulated lots of information about the copyright status of various types of images. --Teratornis (talk) 01:42, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

There is a Commons:License plates gallery page and a Commons:Category:License plates of the United States. You could peruse some of those images to see how other users have licensed them. For example, I see one that uses Commons:Template:PD-textlogo. --Teratornis (talk) 01:47, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Is oli filth really an administrator?

is oli filth really an administrator? this website says he is. http://www.convexoptimization.com/wikipedia/olifilth_wikipedia_wiki.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Em3ryguy (talk • contribs) 23:11, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Nope. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:17, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

He talks like he is too. just-emery (talk) 23:19, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

How so? He (very properly) notified you that an article might be suitable for deletion; that's not only the right but the duty of any editor here. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:44, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

No, I'm not an admin; that link is nothing to do with me. Oli Filth^{(talk|contribs)} 23:20, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Oli_Filth&oldid=129667725 just-emery (talk) 23:34, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

And?! Oli Filth^{(talk|contribs)} 23:38, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

This strikes me as an species of attack, and I've given Em3ryguy a gentle nudge about civility and refraining from personal attacks on other editors. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:44, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

well thats gratitude for you. I am not the first person to have trouble with mr Filth. you would do well to look into in more detail. That is all I have to say (If I wanted to attack him personally then I could say much more but I am too civil to do so). In as much as mr Filth will not allow me to edit any webpages I intend to close my account with wikipedia. just-emery (talk) 00:13, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

My only advice would be to stop adding unsourced speculation to articles. Oli Filth^{(talk|contribs)} 01:06, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Dont pay attention to external sites like that. If you want to see what flags a user holds on Wikipedia, Go to their contributions then click "User Rights" at the bottom of the page. Harlem675 06:56, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I would also suggest you give WP:OUTING a good read. Nanonic (talk) 12:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)