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November 13

please blank IP address

Hi,

In this edit I wasn't logged in and my ip address is in the edit history. Can you remove it please:

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=User:Adrian-from-london&oldid=396432515

Many thanks,

Adrian-from-london (talk) 03:13, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Done. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:21, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Watchlist

Is it possible to watchlist a single section?--res Laozi speak 06:51, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

No. Algebraist 06:53, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

resume

Where can i apply for a job?

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. David Biddulph (talk) 07:34, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia is operated by the Wikimedia Foundation, which has a small staff. A few job openings are listed here. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:43, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Copying from Wikipedia?

Hello there everyone, I just had a simple question. I just today noticed a commercial product(software) that had a description that seemed vaugely familiar, so I pulled up the wikipedia page (Which has been around much longer, as this just came out today.) and it was copied verbatim. Just wondering, since someone is using the description straight from here, is that legal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rpearson299 (talk • contribs) 06:54, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

The web site should have included an acknowledgement that the text came from Wikipedia; see WP:REUSE. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:47, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

The other explanation is that the Wikipedia page is a copyright violation of another page. What was the product? Astronaut (talk) 10:06, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

The Norfolk Southern wikipedia page is copied as a description for a product on Steam. It says "About the game" and underneath just has the text from the Wiki page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.252.87.71 (talk) 21:39, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean Norfolk Southern Railway and http://store.steampowered.com/app/24051/? The latter appears to have copied from the former, probably from an earlier version since there are small changes. It's only part of a paragraph. I would ignore it. There are websites copying the entire English Wikipedia without giving credit. See Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks, but I wouldn't list a site there for a partial paragraph. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:57, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Removal of help desk like entries on talk pages

The entry by 41.138.1.219 on the talk page for Nokia N95 is clearly off-topic. What should be done about it? Delete? Archive?

The guideline states "talk pages exist for the purpose of discussing how to improve articles. Talk pages are not mere general discussion pages about the subject of the article, nor are they a helpdesk for obtaining instructions or technical assistance." and "Material unsuitable for talk pages may be subject to removal per the talk page guidelines.", but I am not sure what to actually do in this case. --Mortense (talk) 09:31, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

I left a note stating the purpose of the talk page and suggesting contacting Nokia. Many contributors simply delete posts like this on sight. You might want to delete the section after a day or two to keep the talk page tidy, after it's likely the IP has seen the response. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 10:20, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Add an article in a new language to a topic that exists

Hello!

I want to write an article in Hebrew about Gender Mainstreaming - a topic that already exists in a few languages, but not in Hebrew. How can this be done?

Thank you, Barak Pick, Israel —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.64.33.59 (talk) 09:39, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

You could go to Hebrew Wikipedia, and create it there. DARTH SIDIOUS 2 ^(Contact) 09:43, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

But how? Can you go over the steps on how to do this? Thank you, Barak —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.64.33.59 (talk) 21:23, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

It will probably be easiest to start with an existing article and translate. See Wikipedia:Translation for translation from another language to English. The corresponding page for Hebrew is apparently he:ויקיפדיה:תרגום which I found under "Languages" to the left of Wikipedia:Translation (I don't know Hebrew). Their equivalent of this help desk should be he:ויקיפדיה:דלפק_ייעוץ. Wikipedia:Your first article and the Hebrew version he:ויקיפדיה:איך_ליצור_דף_חדש may also be helpful. Note that each Wikipedia language can set up their own rules and guidelines, and they have their own discussion pages. I don't know which differences there are between the English Wikipedia and Hebrew Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:42, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Jimmy Wales appeal can not open

Respected Coligueas, this morning i was reading Wikipedia and "A personal appeal" banner opens on top of page. Yes, i clicked on it and it opens on DUTCH language. I am in Rotterdam at the moment, but THERE is NO WAY i could read this on English. So i am not alone. EVERYBODY in Holland who are strangers and do not speak Dutch are having this page what is a HUGE MISTAKE. I clicked an English title. I should get an English answer.

Tommorow i will be in Polland and than i shold get Polish page??? And next week i will be in France... Realy funny mistake from somebody who does not have a real clue.

With respect, Wiki user. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.246.56.3 (talk) 09:40, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Have you tried opening the appeal on English Wikipedia, or the Dutch one? I am in Finland at the moment, and I see the appeal and all other related pages in English, even if I am not logged in. DARTH SIDIOUS 2 ^(Contact) 09:50, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

The initial banner is in English, but I have the same problem (and same country). Even on the English Wikipedia, the appeal opens in the dutch language version, probably because my ISP geolocates to the Netherlands. It wouldn't matter so much if there were a set of interwiki links provided, but why is the geo detection even there? If I read dutch, I would be using the nl.wikipedia, so why not link the appeal from Jimbo in dutch on the dutch language site and link the appeal in english from the english language site, rather than trying to second guess visitors? Astronaut (talk) 10:02, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

The system figures out where you are located, and then serves a page for that location based upon location first, then the language of the wiki you're coming from. Unfortunately, if the Dutch chapter hasn't set up an English language page, you get the Dutch language page. I'll point them to this for their information.  :) Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 21:36, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

For information, this page has links to the appeal in many languages. In English you can read pages for: Australia, Israel, United Kingdom, United States, and Others. Astronaut (talk) 01:11, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Hatnote to section of another article

I sometimes see a hatnote like "For the other page, see target" placed at the top of an article. These usually use a template like {{for}} (or one of the many other templates mentioned in the documentation). What is the best template to use if the target is just a sub-section of an article rather then the other article itself? Astronaut (talk) 09:56, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

I see section linking doesn't work with {{for}} and related templates, as you need to pipe the link, and the template interprets the pipe character as a new argument. You could just use the generic {{dablink}} template like this:

{{dablink|For the other page, see [[Taget#section|Section]]}}

which produces:

For the other page, see Section

Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 10:32, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

I like hatnotes to reveal the target page without using pipes so a visible section link is OK by me as in {{For|the other page|Target#Section}}:

For the other page, see Target § Section.

I don't know whether there is a guideline about this. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:50, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Mmm, I see what you mean, though I doubt more than a few percent of readers would understand the hash symbol. Maybe make it explicit, as in the following?

{{dablink|For the other page, see [[Target#Sectionname|Target, section Sectionname]]}}

which produces

For the other page, see Target, section Sectionname

Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 15:22, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Hod do I find all article names containing a particular word?

All pages with prefix allows me to find pages whose name begin with a certain word. However, I want to find all pages whose name contain the word "repertory", whether an article, category, etc, and no matter where that word falls in the name. How can I do that? -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 12:49, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

In answer to my own question that I found at Wikipedia talk:Special:PrefixIndex, for advanced pagenames searches use the grep tool. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 13:00, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

You don't need grep for this. Search "Everything" (meaning all namespaces) for intitle:repertory. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:32, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Possible hoax

I just discovered the new article A Story of Sex, Drugs and Crime. I can't find any reliable sources that indicate its existence. I think it's a hoax, but could anyone confirm that for me? It wouldn't be the first time I was wrong. Thanks! ceranthor 15:55, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

The article has been nominated for deletion. More important, someone needs to look at the editor who created the article and the other contributions he has made. Many of the articles he created are either spurious or at least wholly unsourced.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:14, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

User has been blocked. Other articles created (shown here) are mostly nominated for deletion, but worth checking back on.  Chzz  ►  21:34, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

No recognition whatsoever of donation given

Having noticed the appeal yesterday when looking for information I made a very small (yet significant in my circumstances) donation of a few pounds. Most charities do you the courtesy or at least sending an automatic thank you email for any donation. In this case I don't remember if my email was required so maybe you didn't have this, but it would be nice if the donation was at least acknowledge by way of your IP address being recognised and the request for a donation displayed on every page being removed, simple to express courtesy for this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.132.7.98 (talk) 17:23, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

That's obviously not a good thing. Based on the fact that you reference giving pounds, I'm betting that you gave to WM-UK, so I'll point one of their folks here. Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 21:07, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm not with WM-UK, but I'll respond as best as I can! Firstly, thank you for your donation - all donations are valued, no matter how big or how small. I'd guess that you didn't receive an email acknowledgement for the reason you gave - you probably didn't give your email address. As to removing the 'please donate' banner, as IP addresses can change, the banner would remain - it may be an annoyance for you, but we have no way of knowing if the IP has been re-assigned or not, and some IPs are re-assigned every few minutes! If you register an account, I believe there is an option in my preferences to hide the banner -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\^{[alternate account of Phantomsteve]} 00:39, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Roller-Bot

Hi my submission from 2006 has been deleted but it has not shown up in my deletion log. I use my wikipedia citation for my portfolio, and have presented professional papers on the subject to Physics Teachers in the St. Louis Area. My work and the name date to 1999, having the earliest use of the Roller-Bot name. Any ideas on where my article went? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pldtech (talk • contribs) 19:17, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

It was deleted on October 10, 2010. See here.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:33, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

(e/c) The deletion log requires the exact name in all particulars or it will fail. The entry is here. You may be able to get this undeleted at WP:UND since it was deleted through the proposed deletion process, but the article contained no third party, independent reliable source showing significant coverage of the topic, and so even if undeleted, it is not unlikely it will be deleted again as not notable, through the more formal deletion process at articles for deletion. So the question is, have reliable published sources that are independent from you written about the robot in any detail? If so, can you provide citations for them?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:39, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

PROBLEM WITH "Flameless Luminary by Febreze"

I would like your representitive to contact me in re of this problem. Thank you. Sal Guido —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.41.10.195 (talk) 19:58, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

This is Wikipedia, a free encyclopedia. If you have a problem with a product by Febreze, please contact them directly instead. Regards SoWhy 20:21, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Can I Use this Picture?

I'm writing an article about Luther Kelly, and I have found a picture of him taken in 1865, during the Civil War. It is my understanding that works published before 1923 are fair game, but unfortunately, I don't think this was published until 1973. Does the fact that it was taken almost 150 years ago count for anything? Sir Nils (talk) 21:57, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

You could ask your question at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions‎. However, the copyright of a picture belongs to the person who took the picture (unless transferred or licensed to someone else). If you mean that the picture wasn't published in the sense that it appears in a book that came out in 1973, that doesn't mean the copyright owner of the book somehow gains copyright of a picture that was already in the public domain.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:04, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Rubstones (Wellington boots)

A new section has been created in the Wellington boots article on "Rubstones", which are described as a cut-down rubber boot modelled after Blundstones. My Google-fu is failing me; I can't find a single use of the word "Rubstones" referring to any type of rubber boot. Should this section be deleted from the article, or is someone else able to source a cite that this is a commonly-used term/modification? Thanks Eliahna (talk) 23:45, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

An IP recently added the section here. You could ask the IP, although the IP's Talk page has pretty much nothing but warnings. You could also simply remove it as unsourced (although not much in the article is sourced). Finally, you could raise it on the Talk page.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:56, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Jonathan Pillado

You are telling me to put a reference in my article about Jonathan pIllado but i cant go to the editing place! What do i do??

Jona316 (talk) 23:58, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

You attempted, although not quite successfully, to insert a reference to your own myspace page. I've removed it as it has nothing to do with the article. Based on the information in the article, Pillado is not notable enough to include on Wikipedia. He may be an admirable person, but that isn't enough. I don't think there's much you can do to save it.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:08, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

See WikiBios where you can write a biography about anyone. See WP:BIO and WP:NOTABLE for the much more stringent rules about who gets to have a biography here. --Teratornis (talk) 00:47, 14 November 2010 (UTC)