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September 27

Completed article, but does not appear when searched for...

Have been working on article since August and responding to requests for various changes. Recently checked for article after last requested change, but it doesn't appear to be anywhere. I've used the search engine but still cannot located document. The document is entitled "The National Association of Real Estate Brokers". Please help regarding the status. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flossie Bell (talk • contribs) 01:09, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Your article is at User:Flossie Bell/National association of real estate brokers. Suggestion: remove peacock words to make it less promotional. Protector of Wiki (talk) 01:15, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

In the future you can click on "my contributions" which is a link at the very top of any page you are and thus access your editing history, which will show all edits you've made at Wikipedia that are not deleted or hidden.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:41, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Are you ready to have this draft moved out of the sandbox and into article space? I could do it for you. --Orange Mike | Talk 03:23, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Redirecting to correct page

When you reference a person or word with multiple meanings or are attempting to redirect to a specific person, how do you do so? Example would be Robert Taylor (actor). There are numerous Robert Taylors in different occupations. I see behind the name there appears (actor) for example but how do you incorporate that into your edit so when the highlighted name is clicked on it goes to the correct page? Thanks.

Digby scallops (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:38, 27 September 2010 (UTC).

Use a piped link. [[Robert Taylor (actor)|Robert Taylor]] renders as Robert Taylor. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:33, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Betty Davis drawing by Betty Davis of herself

I have what I believe to be a pencil drawing of Betty Davis signed by Betty Davis I picked up at an estate sale where kids were selling "grandma's junk". Who would I contact to get validation and value? <email removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.45.237.128 (talk) 03:06, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.--Orange Mike | Talk 04:45, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

I have removed your email address to protect your privacy. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:16, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Alexandra_Powers photo needed

1. I think for article of little known actress Alexandra_Powers a photo is needed. IMDB has one that could be used for the article. Here's the link: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3291650048/nm0694490 2. Also, a photo is needed for Julie_Kavner who is the voice of Marge_Simpson. IMDB has a one at this link:http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1859230464/nm0001413 Please let me know about those 2 articles for needing photos. Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 04:26, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

There is no reason to believe that those photos are in the public domain. Since the subjects are alive, we cannot use these photos without violating copyrights. --Orange Mike | Talk 04:45, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry but they can't be used. Take a look at WP:FAIRUSE. That will give you more than you ever wanted about photo use here. I'll use the first one as an example. It states right below the photo that the copyright to the image is held by New Line Cinema. They own the photo. In order for Wikipedia, a free encyclopedia, to use the photo, it must be released under a free license. Something like Creative Commons or Public Domain would be best. Additionally, that is not a picture of Alexandra Powers. That is a picture of a character played by A.P. That adds a layer of complexity to it since someone owns the rights to the film and the character. If it were as easy as just going to IMDb and grabbing any photo, most of the actor/actress articles would have more than enough images. Dismas|^(talk) 04:45, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Info box

Hi. I recently edited the NRBQ entry, but I can't get the 'members' to show up in the info box. i checked the code and it looks fine. Any ideas?

Thanx.Dubiousraves (talk) 07:09, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

I've fixed it! Protector of Wiki (talk) 07:14, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Now I know the infobox needs 'Current_Members', not just 'members.' Dubiousraves (talk) 09:26, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

The template documentation transcluded on Template:Infobox musical artist has more detail than you will ever want to know about formatting and use of that infobox! – ukexpat (talk) 17:13, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

German shepherd

is it ok to buy a germanshepherd 6 months old —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.200.49.96 (talk) 07:10, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Have you tried the Miscellaneous section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. Protector of Wiki (talk) 07:14, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Renaming a Page/Article

I would like to rename the page/article Esmee Fairbairn Charitable Trust to Esmee Fairbairn Foundaiton. I have followed your instructions on how to do this but don't seem to be able to actualy make a change and require an autoconfirmed user to do so. Please advise me as to how to get the name changed.

Thanks

08:50, 27 September 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.173.144.61 (talk)

Even if you were autoconfirmed, you couldn't perform this move. Esmée Fairbairn Foundation is currently a redirect to Esmée Fairbairn Charitable Trust, so the only way the move can be done is if the redirect is first deleted; this requires an administrator. I've made a request for admin assistance at Wikipedia:Requested_moves#Uncontroversial_requests.

Cheers, Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 09:12, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Resolved

 – Thanks Jafeluv. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 10:08, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Flow or layout jumbled after article edit

Resolved

 – by that font of html wisdom, Dismas. Thanks!  – OhioStandard (talk) 10:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello to all you dedicated helpful types! Would someone who knows about how the automatic "flow" of text around non-text elements works have a look here, please? I can't figure out how to keep the section heading from appearing in the center of the page, presumably because of the size of the photo at right (?). I don't know if users of other browsers will see the same thing, so I'll mention that I'm using Firefox. Any help/tweaking greatly appreciated. Thanks!  – OhioStandard (talk) 09:22, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Done. Dismas|^(talk) 09:33, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, Dismas. Where would someone learn something like that? ( <br clear=all> ) It's not just html, is it?  – OhioStandard (talk) 09:40, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

It is HTML. I don't know of a wiki-markup way of achieving the same effect. I don't recall where I saw it first used here. It comes in incredibly handy though. For instance, see List of Playboy Playmates of 2010. (I do a lot of work on those articles, so they come to mind) If not for the <br clear=all>, then the infoboxes would intrude on the subsequent entry. Dismas|^(talk) 09:55, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks again, then. I really need to learn HTML. I'm only what, about 15 years behind the times with that? ;-) I'd forgotten one can google strings besides just plain text/words, and I googled that tag a moment ago. Will read up. Best,  – OhioStandard (talk) 10:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't the title of this article be Linda McMahon's U.S. Senate campaign, 2010 or Linda McMahon's 2010 U.S. Senate campaign, or have we given up on correct grammar in article titles? – ukexpat (talk) 16:15, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Birthday Alert/ List

Hi,

I want to create a list of famous designer's birthdays throughout the year. Can I set up some kind of alert to do this, or can I ceate one long list?

Thanks

Victoria —Preceding unsigned comment added by STYLE NV (talk • contribs) 10:32, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

If you're planning to extract information from Wikipedia for use elsewhere, that should be fine provided you comply with the conditions described here. I'm not sure that such a list would be suitable as an encyclopedia page within Wikipedia. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:52, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

No I'm not planning to create a list for wikipedia, just a list for my own use. How would I extract such a list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by STYLE NV (talk • contribs) 17:15, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

There might be a way to do it with the arcane techniques under WP:EIW#Query. However, that might be difficult for non-programmers to figure out. Maybe someday Wikipedia will have Semantic wiki features which will simplify running these types of queries. In the meantime your fastest method is probably to compile your list by hand, by looking up articles about the kind of designers you have in mind. Note that some biographical articles on Wikipedia lack birthday information, as this tidbit can be surprisingly hard to find in reliable published sources for some people who are notable enough for a Wikipedia article, but not so notable that there are already published biographies for them outside of Wikipedia. For example, if you did something notable enough for a few dozen news articles to be written about you, they might not mention your birthday if it wasn't available to the reporters and it wasn't relevant to what they were writing about. --Teratornis (talk) 20:07, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Incidentally, this article claims that having one's date and place of birth makes one more vulnerable to identity theft, at least in the US. --Teratornis (talk) 20:12, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Declan Henry - Irish Author

I have just uploaded a new page for Declan Henry - Irish Author. How can I submit a picture of him to include with his profile? Many thanks for all your help. You a diamond! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kathleencallaghan (talk • contribs) 10:38, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia! I've left some links on your talk page that I hope you'll find useful.

Before doing any more work on this material, you need to establish that the author is notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Information in Wikipedia needs to be verifiable by references to reliable sources that are independent of the subject; so far your material only refers to Facebook and to web sites that seem to be closely connected to Declan Henry himself. Has he been written about in books, newspapers, magazines and so on?

If you can find these kinds of sources, I suggest you re-submit your material using the Article Wizard. The copy we have so far is on a page that is not intended for new article content, and I'll be deleting it shortly. Don't worry about that - it's an easy mistake to make when there are so many places to choose from.

Finally, your question about a picture. You'll need to first upload the picture to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, assuming it is not in one of those places already. To upload the picture here, simply go to this page and follow the directions (note that your account must be autoconfirmed, which means that it has made ten edits and been active for four days). To upload the picture to Commons, simply follow the link provided above (they do not have the autoconfirmation requirement). Once you have uploaded the picture, simply list the file name in the article as [[File:Example.jpg]], replacing "Example" with the name of the file and making sure the extensions match. I know it's probably confusing, but post here if you have further questions. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:31, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Deleted page

Hi there,

Is it possible to get a delete page restored to my namespace so i can recover some lost information, teh pae was deleted because some ip user added copyright material from amazon i tried to stop it getitng deleted by using hangon but ti sitll got delted i have erstored from old data i have but i do not have all teh up to date informaiton so need to deleted page so i can get that information and remove the copyright violaiton information--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 11:12, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Unless a passing administrator happens to see this soon, your best bet would be to post at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion -- John of Reading (talk) 11:41, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

<passing administrator> You mean List of Galactik Football episodes, I assume? It's helpful to give article names rather than make people guess. Looking through the page history, I can see the same copyright problems that caused the article's deletion back in 2007 (!), so there is no way I'm going to restore this, even in userspace. Copyright violations are never restored. The old version didn't have references, so frankly your best bet is to start from scratch and this time add references for the information. Bencherlite^Talk 12:18, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

I just require the airdates for seaosn 1 and 2 and seoasn 3 as this informaiton on teh previous should have had the correct origianl airdates and not the ones that some ip user made, the reaosn i never meantion the article wa si wasnt sure if ti could be done--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 12:57, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

I also assume there no way for e to see the old history of the page meaning ic an fetch the data out myself as the airdates aitn available eslewhere as they wher eadded after they aired--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 13:10, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Replied with the dates in question on your talk page. Bencherlite^Talk 13:49, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Trying to move page to the mainspace

Im trying to move a draft to the mainspace. I looked up how to do so, but the pull down arrow isn't showing on my toolbar, even though I've edited the page more than 10 times. Can someone please assist me so I can move this draft to the mainspace? Thanks.

TCMI —Preceding unsigned comment added by TCMI (talk • contribs) 13:30, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

I think there is a bigger issue here- your article does not indicate why the group is notable enough to warrant an article. This issue needs to be addressed before the article is moved to the mainspace. TNXMan 13:37, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Copied And Pasted Material From A Copyrighted Source

I was reading your entry for "Marrubium vulgare" (White Horehound) and thought it sounded familiar. In checking, I realized it is mostly a "copy and paste" article taken from "A Modern Herbal" by Maude Grieve @ Botanical.com which is a copyrighted source. In checking the references and credits, I find no reference to this source, which originally dates back to 1931. I also find no indication that it is a copy and paste, which would lead the reader into believing it is an original work. I find this most disturbing and an unethical practice that reflects badly on Wikipedia. How much of the rest of your works are simply plagiarized, copy and paste works of someone else without even so much as a thank you toward the original writer? I used to cite Wikipedia often as a valuable source of information. But now, this calls into question whether or not this is a good idea and whether or not Wikipedia can be trusted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.187.208.161 (talk) 16:07, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and they are deleted by admins when they are identified. I will make an appropriate report to Wikipedia:Suspected copyright violations copying the relevant portions of your message above. Final point, you should always be cautious when you "cite Wikipedia often as a valuable source of information". – ukexpat (talk) 16:26, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

The copyrighted text was added by an anonymous IP some time ago. John of Reading has now removed it from the article. Thank you for reporting the problem. Wikipedia makes every effort to deter the addition of copyrighted material to Wikipedia, and to identify and remove any such material promptly if added. You can report suspected violations directly yourself, via Ukexpat's link above, but a report here will also get quick results. Karenjc 18:14, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Just as a note, I've moved it to Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2010 September 27 since WP:SCV is populated by bots scanning brand new pages. It'll get looked at either way, but this way ensures a more thorough review. VernoWhitney (talk) 18:27, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

box in a box

how do i make a box in a box (a text with a colord background and border, i hope u know what i mean)? i will add an another box in my user page, until i solve this problem. so pls help me.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 18:17, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Like this? Not quite sure I understand your situation though. DMacks (talk) 19:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

thx, but i neednt span, i need div. but thx for ur box! i did it! :D-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 20:06, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

one more question: how to increase boxes, i dont meant the width function, that increases the length only.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 20:48, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Dean Kamen is not dead

You erroneously are saying Dean Kamen died yesterday. It was James Heselden who died. IIf I try to edit it, that part of the article doesn't show, so THAT'S WHY I'M CONTACTING YOU! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Kamen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.219.9.106 (talk) 18:43, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for letting us know! It looks like a spate of vandals intent on inserting that info. Dean Kamen does not currently list him as deceased and article is edit-protected to stop that nonsense. DMacks (talk) 19:01, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

This report (and others like it) is the source of the confusion. Kamen sold Segway to Heselden at the end of 2009. – ukexpat (talk) 19:13, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Ahah! Good find. DMacks (talk) 19:21, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Canadian Electronic group "Exchange"

Wikipedia has no information on the Popular Canadian New Age Group "exchange" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.175.175.250 (talk) 19:35, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

That's true. If they're WP:NOTABLE enough for an article (see WP:BAND in particular), feel free to write one. DMacks (talk) 19:37, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Please help me make my page live

Hello,

I have a page that I have edited and I'm not sure how to make it live. It's just a factual article about a company that I could not find in Wikipedia. Here is the link to the article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JackieVendetti/Fair_Mortgage_Collaborative

Please let me know if it's ok or what I need to do to improve it to make it live and viewable by all.

Thank you so much! Jackie JackieVendetti (talk) 21:03, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Please take a look at WP:SYMUD and also WP:CORP. From reading your draft it is not clear to me that the company meets the notability threshold. And you also appear to have a conflict of interest. – ukexpat (talk) 21:22, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

User page "hosting" issue

Hey. Many months ago I posted a warning on User_talk:Master_of_Puppets/Icons that Wikipedia should not be used as a web host (nor, especially, for a web host with that much content). Am I justified in thinking that this does not belong on Wikipedia? Since it's in user space, this seems to be a grey issue. Should this be taken to the admins? It can't very well be nominated for speedy deletion. Reinderien^{talk/contribs} 21:18, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

I see no harm in that page - many users have pages in their userspace which serve little encyclopaedic purpose, and some of those images are fairly useful. The images are already hosted on Commons, so your point that Wikipedia should not be used as a web host (unless I'm misinterpreting it) is not applicable. The 'Wikipedia is not your web host' guideline applies mostly to promotional content or advocacy and to users who make few edits outside their userspace. This page, even if it technically falls within the scope of that rule, does not qualify in that regard. In the future, please attempt to discuss it with the user on his or her user talk page; I don't think User:Master of Puppets is even aware that you made that comment, if he doesn't watch all of his subpages. As an aside, you might be interested to know (if you do not already) that Master of Puppets is one of "the admins". Intelligentsium 23:22, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

If MoP does a lot of work with various templates and things, it might be easier for them to keep that page for easy reference instead of having to dig to find the right icon when they need it. Dismas|^(talk) 06:16, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

The place to nominate it would be at Miscellany for Deletion which covers user pages. He is an admin who I would guess has left them there as a reference, as Dismas suggests. As he has not edited since the end of June, I would be surprised if he has seen your message on the page's talk page - and a better place to leave a message would have been at his main talk page User talk:Master of Puppets, although he may not see that either! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 17:24, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

My White House President E-Card Liasion Enrollment to the Territory Governor Liasion

I recieved a White House Letter from our White House President of the 44th President term and am needing to enroll it and am unable to theirfore find the e-mail status to do so if all possible if you can deliver this message to that Liasion individaul it would be much help and my present e-mail address is <email redacted> that you for all asistance aplicable.Sincerely Eddie Billings Jr —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.234.64.2 (talk) 22:33, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. NB: I have removed your email address to deter spammers. Karenjc 23:29, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Free Newspaper Articles

My company just launched 74,000 pages with free newspaper articles about famous people. For example, there are over 500,000 free articles about Babe Ruth. How do I work with Wikipedia to include this free resource on these 74,000 pages? I don't want to be labelled as spam. http://www.newspaperarchive.com/content/babe_ruth.html for example. Thanks. ChrisChristopherJamesGill (talk) 23:08, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. – ukexpat (talk) 14:57, 28 September 2010 (UTC)