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February 2

The beautiful city....

There are uncountable number of villages,town, cities etc across the world. But, to everyone of them,there is a peuculiarity. some of these pecularity sometimes makes take a braek and have a deep breath. On this note, come a town called Ajowa Akoko. This a community of a little more than fifty thousand people. He was founded in 1955. With the coming together of eight diffrent villages, each having her local dialet. as such, each community has a king. Each king rulling her immidiate commuity in full capacity . In a way ,its a town where eight oba rule. Yet, they experience peace. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Obabigbusayo (talk • contribs) 02:00, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

How can we help you with using or editing Wikipedia, though? Bencherlite^Talk 02:01, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

You could try reading Akoko. CaptRik (talk) 08:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

contributions

I first found wikipedia via freelance writer job ad from which I got the impression contributors would be paid for contributions, is that the case or are submissions purely volunteer? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bimkerly10 (talk • contribs) 04:12, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Everything here is done on a volunteer basis. No one here has been paid by the Wikimedia Foundation (Wikipedia's parent company) to do anything. It does happen that third-parties will "pay" to have someone edit Wikipedia for them, we cannot deny that this happens, though when it does it usually violates Wikipedia's strict Conflict of interest guidelines; getting money from a company to write a Wikipedia article about them means that your writing will tend to be overly favorable towards that company, either deliberately or subconsciously, and that lack of neutrality is a violation of Wikipedia's core policies, see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. So, do people get paid sometimes to edit Wikipedia? Sure. Are they supposed to be? Probably not. As it is modeled, everything here is created purely on a volunteer basis. The articles are created, edited, and maintained by people who are primarily interested in spreading knowledge around the world, and for no higher purpose than that, and without any need for more personal gain than a sense of satisfaction of a job well done. --Jayron32 04:48, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

The survival rate of such "commissioned" articles seems to me to be very low anyway. The articles get deleted for being irredeemably biased or failing to comply with the notability standard, so the company concerned is generally just throwing away their money. Roger (talk) 11:33, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Only the ones that get caught... It's like saying that our jails are full of criminals, so we must be doing a good job getting them off the street. Buddy431 (talk) 17:15, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

That is sadly, probably, very true. For really large companies, they can often afford to have people who can figure out how to subtly influence the content in Wikipedia articles in ways that reflect well on them, and still avoid the appearance of doing so overtly. McDonald's therefore is more likely to get away with whitewashing its own articles than Bobs Burger Barn would be. I have no specific companies that are doing this (my McDonald's example was purely hypothetical). For that reason, I tend to believe that Wikipedia articles on certain subject (corporations, political groups and figures, etc.) are inherently less trustworthy than Wikipedia articles on subjects where there is less motivation to fudge the truth to boost the subject. To take a recent example from the Main Page, there's very little motivation to cover-up or whitewash the article on the Common Firecrest in the same way that there would be for doing so on an article about a company. All that taken into account, we can only say that paid editing is not supposed to be happening at Wikipedia; when it is known to have occured it has always gone badly for both the editor and the articles in question, and it undoubtedly goes on at some small level undetected by people who are just very good at covering their tracks. --Jayron32 17:39, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Please assist me

How do I share wikipedia articles on facebook? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnnaVeileroglou (talk • contribs) 10:55, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Still, there is no automatically way for that, because Facebook and Wikipedia didn't make an agreement about it. However, you can publish URL of desired article on your Wall on Facebook. It's like sharing! Alex ^discussion 11:02, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

The (only?) way to share a Wikipedia article on Facebook is to copy the article's URL or address and paste that onto your Facebook wall. We don't have any "share" buttons here on Wikipedia. Dismas|^(talk) 11:06, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

But if you want to ass share buttons, see User:Gadget850/FAQ#Sharebox. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 15:38, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

add? -- John of Reading (talk) 15:45, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

I'll pass on the ass share buttons, thanks. TNXMan 17:25, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Double-matching categories

I don't know how to gain articles together located in two or more categories. Actually, I need to find non-existent category Living writers, in which coincides following categories: Living people and Writers. Thanks in advance! Alex ^discussion 10:57, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

I think WP:CATSCAN is what you're looking for. Dismas|^(talk) 11:04, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

High traffic site

Should I add the Template:High traffic (or maybe a template for "in the news") to the Cello (web browser) since st 20 April 2010 a news article on favbrowser.com quadruplicated the views on the 22.4.2010 as I wrote at the talkpage? mabdul 11:40, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm not convinced that either template applies here. For {{High traffic}}, the page has to link to Wikipedia. That page does not; it only has the link to the article traffic statistics that you posted there. For {{Current}}, you need "live" news, not a newly-written page describing something from 1994. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:05, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

A tool to generate a list of selective contributions

Hello, I'd like to find out, if there's any tool that will generate a clickable list of all my posts on AN/I for the last 5 months for example? Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 13:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

What about this link? *g* mabdul 14:16, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

That includes a number of pages other than ANI. I think this may be a bit more selective, but it may still include references to Mbz1, rather than just posts by him. And of course it doesn't list each contribution separately, so each of the archives may have numerous contributions. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:29, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you both for trying to help me!--Mbz1 (talk) 16:47, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

How to get article live

I'm trying to get an article called DiGa LLC live. The info below popped up after requesting the move, but it has not appeared in the discussion list. Can someone please help? Thank you.

It has been proposed in this section that User:SunshineSachs/DiGa LLC be renamed and moved. A bot will list this discussion on Wikipedia:Requested moves within 15 minutes of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed after 7 days of being opened, if consensus has been reached. More information about closing discussions is available at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions. Remember to base arguments on article title policy, and to keep discussion succinct and civil. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SunshineSachs (talk • contribs) 14:47, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

To be blunt, it isn't ready, and may well be deleted if moved to main space. More details shortly.--SPhilbrickT 14:50, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

• You have used Wikipedia as a citation. That's not allowed. See Wikilink for how to do it right.
• You have bare links in the External Links section. See External links (which does show how to do a bare link, but they are really no longer acceptable)
• The article is too long for a single section. See Manual of Style for help
• There are other issues, but this is a start. Try checking in at Requests for feedback after you've addressed some of these issues.--SPhilbrickT 14:57, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

(ec)To start with, think about WP:Notability, and use a Google search to see how notable an organisation DiGa LLC is. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:00, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

And more for your reading list. Sunshine, Sachs & Associates seems to be issuing press releases about DiGa, so please read WP:CORPNAME and WP:COI. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:06, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Blatant user name violation reported to WP:UAA. – ukexpat (talk) 15:39, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

IMHO that's biting the newbie. He/she hasn't done anything in mainspace yet - no harm, no foul. He/She has come to this page for help - not to be beaten up. Roger (talk) 06:52, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but I don't have much sympathy for a "newbie" whose only contribution is to promote a client. – ukexpat (talk) 15:41, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Slight bug on search results display?

I did a wikipedia search on the two words: Iranian Shahs . The output appears to have a slight bug. On the second and third answers, Pahlavi Dynasty and Shah, the bolding of the search words in the result is odd, instead of Iranian being bolded, 'Iran' is bolded and the a space appears to be there before the unbolded 'ian'. Looking at those articles, they have used the quite normal trick of doing [[Iran]]ian to make Iranian point to Iran. I'm not sure where to report this (I'm not quite sure I'm up to making a Bugzilla entry) and I can probably be argued out of viewing this as a bug (though it will take work 1/2 :) ).Naraht (talk) 17:37, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

That's not a bug, it's a feature! (without ironic undertone) mabdul 17:46, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

It's a feature to have "ian" stand by itself in some articles but not in others? It means that the search results don't show information based on the shown text in those pages, but rather the information "below" them.Naraht (talk) 18:35, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

I misunderstood you at the first. Do you have really whitespaces in iranian like "iran ian"? Which browser do you use, because with my web browser there is no problem. I do think you found a bug in your web browser! mabdul 18:54, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I do, I copied the text into notepad and there is an actual space. Could you try the same thing? BTW, I am running Chrome.Naraht (talk) 21:00, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

You could try changing the text to [[Iran|Iranian]] rather than [[Iran]]ian so that the whole word is linked to the article on Iran. -- Bk314159 (Talk to me and find out what I've done) 21:35, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

The entire word is linked there anyway. [[Plum]]s displays and does the same thing *in the article* as [[Plum|Plums]], it just apparently shows up differently in the results of the search. And Help:Link indicates that they should be the same *and* that [[Plum]]s is prefered.Naraht (talk) 21:49, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

USER:XXXXXXX I want to add the title

Hello, I have no idea how to get ride of the title of my article. I want to put Spanish White WIne (Bogatell) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Chadturnbull

Can someone please just change it for me and explain it too me. I spent a lot of time research and i just want to have the right title. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chadturnbull (talk • contribs) 17:39, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

You have to move your article. In the tab "move" above the article is the option to move the article into mainspace. mabdul 17:42, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

A bit more, you need to also read Wikipedia:Article titles for more on choosing a proper title to move the article too. The title "Spanish White Wine (Bogatell)" doesn't follow Wikipedia's article naming conventions. The proper name for the article, after reading it, is probably just Bogatell. --Jayron32 17:49, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Jayron — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chadturnbull (talk • contribs) 17:53, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

You don't see the "Move" option because your account is too new - an account has to be registered for four days before it is given the autoconfirmed user status. However, I'm not going to move the page for you because this LinkedIn page suggests that you have a close connection with the brand that you are writing about. Because of this conflict of interest, at the very least, the page requires careful review by other editors before it is moved. Please see the FAQ for Organisations. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:52, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

(ec)I was going to say that you may need to convince the copyright experts in Wikipedia that you are indeed the holder of the copyright in the labels, but now I see that you apparently are (but would probably need to go through the appropriate processes for allowing their use), you probably ought to read WP:COI to consider whether you ought to be writing the article at all. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:57, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

See WP:IOWN for the process to communicate copyright permissions. – ukexpat (talk) 18:10, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Note that by licensing File:Bogatell's offical label.jpg under commons:Template:Cc-zero you are granting anyone the right to use the image for any purpose, even commercial, without asking for permission. See the links under commons:COM:EIC#Trademark for additional information about trademarks. --Teratornis (talk) 19:35, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Can it be used under the fair use rule - that way the owner's rights are still protected? Roger (talk) 06:55, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Generally fair use doesn't apply to text unless it's a quote of something someone has said (e.g. "Read my lips -- no new taxes!"), which can't be altered or edited. If it's supposed to be editable then the Fair Use exemption breaks down. And since we don't host whole articles comprised of quotations and uneditable text, we can't license a whole article as Fair Use. —Soap— 16:51, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

That's interesting - on Feb 2nd that LinkedIn page said "As CEO of Savorian ... Our portofolio is made up of two collections: Bogatell and El Raval" and today it doesn't! (I've just pasted that text from Google's cached version) -- John of Reading (talk) 16:43, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I need to contact wikipeada

I accidentally forgot to log in when editing a talk page and my IP address is on show. I would like to get it hidden this is a genuine error and once I saw what I had done I re signed the edits with my account name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruth-2013 (talk • contribs) 19:45, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Please contact our Oversight team at Wikipedia:Requests_for_oversight, as this is the best place to request assistance. TNXMan 19:49, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Just a quick note here, to avoid any misunderstanding:

Don't post requests for oversight on Wikipedia - doing so can just make the problem more complex; instead, use Special:EmailUser/Oversight, or email oversight-en-wpwikipedia.org. See Wikipedia:Requests for oversight.  Chzz  ►  11:10, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

How to cite an Associated Press article?

How do you cite an AP article when it's reproduced by a different news organization? For example this article is an AP article, but it's posted on The Japan Times. Do I cite The Japan Times or do i cite AP and simply post a link to The Japan Times? Thanks --Torsodog^Talk 19:48, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Use the |work parameter for the AP, and the |publisher parameter for the Japan Times. Albacore (talk) 19:57, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Ah, got it. Thanks! --Torsodog^Talk 19:58, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Ancestors of Qais Abdur Rashid

I am looking for genealogical information of Qaid Abdur Rashid. It is said in Wikipedia that Qais Abdul Rashid is the 37th descendant of King Saul, but I couldn't find the genealogical ancestry tree anywhere. I would be grateful if furnished with the requested information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.211.121.46 (talk) 20:01, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

This question is not suitable for the helpdesk. People over at this reference desk might be able to answer your question. Jarkeld (talk) 21:08, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Any Admins about?

Hi everyone, I tried to archive my talk page today - for various reasons - and made it into a subpage of my user page instead of a subpage of my new talk page. I moved it to the intended location, and then ended up with a superfluous page that I would now like to delete. Can anyone help me out? My main user page is User:KageTora. The archived talk page is at User_talk:KageTora/Archive 1, and the new talk page is at User_talk:KageTora. The superfluous page is User:KageTora/Archive 1. Is it possible for me to delete this myself, or do I need an admin? Cheers. --KägeTorä - (影虎) (TALK) 23:13, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

 Doing...... Bencherlite^Talk 23:16, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Cheers. --KägeTorä - (影虎) (TALK) 23:17, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict)x2 If you want a page within your userspace to be deleted: add {{db-userreq}} on that page and an admin will come along to delete it. Jarkeld (talk) 23:18, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Done. There are bots that will archive your talk page if you want; see Help:Archiving a talk page (or click "edit" on my talk page to see what I've done, for example). Bencherlite^Talk 23:19, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Ah, excellent! Very useful, thanks (to both of you). --KägeTorä - (影虎) (TALK) 23:32, 2 February 2011 (UTC)