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October 23

Move page back to original titled page.

Actor is going back to using previous credited name Cal Rein. Move page: Cal Giardina To new previous title: Cal Rein Eyephoto08 (talk) 02:42, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

The best place for requests such as this is at WP:Requested moves. Though, even then you'll need to provide a reliable source for why the article should be moved to the other name. Dismas|^(talk) 02:45, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Adding images

I have uploaded the image "Matched.jpg" and now don't know how to put it into the article Matched. MyKingdom200 (talk) 11:44, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

I've fixed it, but you may need to clarify the copyright status of the uploaded image. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:04, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Are two references enough for a biography article?

I am new to Wikipedia and have recieved the "This article is an orphan complaint". I have added two new references and three external links. Please look over the article and see whether it has become reliable enough to not be deleted or I should add more references. Thanks. My Article : Shamim Haider Tirmazi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Intermediate-Hacker (talk • contribs) 12:42, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

You haven't actually included any references in your article as inline citations; look at WP:CITE. The orphan tag is saying that no other articles have links to your article. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:58, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I have now added inline references. Though I don't think there is anything I can do about my article being an orphan. Do orphan articles get deleted? 82.178.82.229 (talk) 14:20, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Orphan articles do not get deleted. —Jeremy v^_^v ^{Components:V S M} 16:21, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

No, there's nothing wrong with orphaned articles; but usually it means that there are places which readers might find the article from, but they can't. See WP:ORPH. --ColinFine (talk) 18:02, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Changing article name

Hi, I've written an article about two artists called 'Bonafide', however as other pages exist with the same name I called the article Bonafide (Manchester), but I think Bonafide (Maz and Ziggy) is more relevant. I don't seem to be able to change the name though, help please! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bia-17 (talk • contribs) 16:07, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Where do you think you have saved it? Bonafide (Manchester) doesn't exist, and your contribution record was blank before the question above. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:54, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

It was speedily deleted as an A7 by me. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:05, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

It got speedied. The redlink Bonafide_(Manchester) has a template explaining the deletion. Roger (talk) 18:05, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

• If Orange Mike had bothered to leave a message on the article creator's talk page it might have removed some confusion. Still, such basic courtesy has never been a feature of his use of deletion tools. Likewise, just posting "deleted as an A7" doesn't help anyone who isn't sad enough to have memorised all the speedy codes. DuncanHill (talk) 18:20, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
• I'll add to that - nobody bothered to explain to the original creator what was thought to be wrong with the article, thus denying him the chance to improve it. Very poor show. DuncanHill (talk) 18:21, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Frank Sinatra's song

Hello! What's the name of the Frank Sinatra song, played in the ending of this commercial? Doncsecz^talk 17:25, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Hello, please direct this question to the Entertainment Reference Desk where the users will be more equipped to answer your question. Happy editing, hajatvrc with WikiLove @ 17:35, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Logged out

Why am I loged out — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.71.8.154 (talk) 19:13, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Have you tried logging in? GB fan 20:12, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

See Help:Logging in. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:00, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Tink

I've created a new dab page for Tink at Tink (disambiguation). It should really be named Tink since it is a disambiguation page with no primary topic, according to WP:DABNAME. However, when I try to move it to Tink I get the message "You cannot move a page to this location, because the new title has been protected from creation". Can you move it for me please? Thanks — Hebrides (talk) 21:41, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

I believe WP:RFUP is the correct avenue but someone here may still unprotect for you. Яehevkor ✉ 21:51, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

I have moved it. Moves needing an administratror can be listed at Wikipedia:Requested moves. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:11, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you :) — Hebrides (talk) 05:28, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Exquisite Scents article deleted

Hello,

I just worked several hours on this article and had it deleted within minutes. I am wondering what I did wrong and is there any way that I can have it placed back on Wikipedia without having to worry about it being deleted again? I see it mentioned something about showing lack of importance, but I've read plenty of articles that did not seem to important to me. I've read an article about my old classmate who use to play college basketball and but did not get drafted. It talked about what he accomplished in college and the NBA teams he had a tryout for. The article about him was much shorter than the article I drafted about my company. My company is up and coming and meanwhile, my old classmate is unemployed and living with his father.

I'm just frustrated and need an explanation on how my article can be placed back on the Wikipedia. If there is no way that it can be place back on there, then please let me know, that way I won't have to waste my time trying to inform people about my company using this site.

Thanks!!!

Anthony Humphrey — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uniquehump (talk • contribs) 23:20, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

The article was deleted as it failed the notability criteria as detailed here. WP:CORP gives more detail on what the Wikipedia guidelines consider as "notable" for a company; in particular note that the company must have "significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources." The article as you created it does not mention any coverage at all in any sources. One of the things that Wikipedia is not is a vehicle for promotion of anything, including companies. There are further problems; your username appears to indicate that you are intimately connected with the company (both the "key people" you mention in the article are named "Humphrey") which falls foul of the conflict of interest guidelines at WP:COI. In a nutshell, please don't (as you put it) waste any more of your time trying to use Wikipedia as a vehicle to "inform people about your company" (as an advertising medium, in other words). Best of luck in your venture, but you'll have to get advertising space elsewhere. As for "XYZ has an article, so why don't I?" please see WP:OSE. Tonywalton ^Talk 23:46, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

• Just curious who decides what is considered notable on Wikipedia and what is not. Yes, there are A LOT of guidelines, policies, etc. But, who made those rules in the first place, and how can those rules be changed? For example, I just recently found out that a public company listed on a major stock exchange is not notable and the article about was deleted from Wikipedia because a few people thought it was not notable. Ottawahitech (talk) 13:56, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

The community decided on the notability guidelines. You would need to go back through the talk page archives of the different guidelines to see the discussions that created them. The rules can be changed by proposing a change on the guidelines talk page. If the change has enough support then the change will be implemented. GB fan 14:10, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

• Thank for responding. I wonder if anyone can suggest which talk pagen to raise this issue on. Here are the details of the deleted artcile: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Mellanox+Technologies (btw I must log off soon so hope I can still find a response here next time I am on Wikipedia)Ottawahitech (talk) 14:29, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

There are two guidelines that you might want to look at concerning that page. The first one is the notability guideline, specifically the general notability guideline section. That is the overarching guideline for notability. The second one, since this a Corporation, is the Notability (organizations and companies) guidelines, specifically the depth of coverage section. Also looking at your concerns you might be specifically interested in the Publicly traded corporations section. Based on all of this, I think the best place to raise the question would be on the talk page of Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) since that is where it talks about publicly traded corporations. GB fan 16:05, 26 October 2011 (UTC)