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October 20

Message from Curtaintoad

Hello friends. On my talk page, I am running very low on messages and I would like some tips on how to get more messages. Thank you. :) CURTAINTOAD! ^TALK! 02:51, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I think the best way to get messages on your talk page (do you really want this???) is to do a lot of editing. This will cause other editors to notice your edits, and you will be given comments, barnstars, and sometimes unfortunately, criticism (hopefully constructive). Also, commenting on other users, engaging in talk page discussions, and subscribing to newsletters (Signpost) can also help. –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 03:02, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

There are bots that will send you suggestions of the form "You might like to work on these articles." (I don't know their names offhand.) —Tamfang (talk) 03:10, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

SuggestBot? –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 03:11, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice! :) CURTAINTOAD! ^TALK! 03:14, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

celebrity listing?

How does someone get listed on Wikipedia? Does someone nominate or recommend them? Can someone post on Wikepedia on own? What is the criteria? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Youngchochi (talk • contribs) 03:42, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

The criteria is the subject must be notable. A person can write about themselves,but it is discouraged (see WP:COI). If there is someone you think should have an article you can make a suggestion at WP:RA. RudolfRed (talk) 03:48, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Yuri Fedorov

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Yuri Fedorov (August 2, 1957) - Doctor of Medical Sciences, Lviv National Medical University named Daniel Galitsky, Vice Chancellor for Research, Head of the Department of Internal Medicine № 1 LLC "Lviv Medical Institute," Honored Worker of Education of Ukraine, a practicing cardiologist , physician immunologist highest qualification Biography 2 August 1957 - born in s.Mine 3- bis of the Sverdlovsk area Lugansk region in the family Anfisa Silevich (teacher of ukrainian language and literature) and Vladimir Fedorov (chief electrician mine) In 1964-1974 he studied in high school № 5 t. Chervonograd Lviv region In 1980. graduated from the Medical Faculty of the Lviv State Medical Institute. In 1981 1983gg. - Anesthetist-resuscitator kariohirurgicheskogo center of Lviv Regional Hospital. In 1983, 1992:. - Cardio cardio center of Lviv Regional Hospital, In 1989. master's thesis on "Comprehensive assessment pacing in the dynamics in order to predict survival and rehabilitation of patients with complete AV block," received a degree in medical sciences. In 1992 to 2000 - Assistant Professor of treatment number 2 (Cardiology) LNMU them. Danila Galitsky at clinical infarct department of Lviv Emergency Hospital In 1999 to 2006 - Associate Professor of Clinical Immunology and Allergology LNMU them. Daniel Galitsky In 2004. defended his doctoral thesis on "calcific valvular heart disease: pathogenesis, morphological and functional state of the heart clinic, diagnostics and approaches to medical treatment", received a doctor of medicine. In 2006. - Professor, Department of Therapy LNMU them. Daniel Galitsky Since 2005. - Head of the Department of Internal Medicine № 1 LLC "Lviv Medical Institute" Since 2008. - Professor, Department of Clinical Immunology and Allergology LNMU them. Daniil Galitsky, a member of the Special Board of Lviv Medical University for PhD and doctoral theses in the field of "Cardiology" and "Internal Medicine", the curator of Internal Medicine and Cardiology, Military Medical Clinical Centre West region Since 2009. - Vice President for Research Ltd. "Lviv Medical Institute" Scientific activities Author of over 150 scientific publications, including monographs, rationalization proposals, patents for invention. Research interests - diseases of the cardiovascular system, immunocardiology, psychoneuroimmunology. Main works • Sklerodegenerative calcific valvular heart disease. - Lviv: Apriori. - 2012. - 180 p. • Helpers. - Lviv: Apriori. - 2012. - 61C. • Expediency. - Kiev: doctor-Media. - 2008. - 144 p. • Expediency. - Lviv: Apriori. - 2012. - 191 p. • Calcific valvular heart disease: pathogenesis, morphological and functional state of the heart clinic, diagnostics and approaches to medical treatment. / Monograph. Lviv: Navy. - 2004 - 80c. • Outlook immunocardiology / / Heart and blood vessels - 2003. - № 2. - P.23- • Molecular genetic and serological investigations of possible pathogenic role of Chlamydia pneumoniae and Cytomegalovirus in calcific valvular heart disease. / / Heart and blood vessels number 3. - 2005. - P.70-75. • Idiopathic diseases and injuries of the conducting system of the heart : What's new? / / Heart and blood vessels. - 2007 - № 2. - P.36-44. • Approaches to medicamental treatment of calcific valvular heart disease. / / Proceedings of the European Congress of Cardiology. Stockholm / / J. Card.-2005-Vol.23, № 5.-P.37 • Risk factors of development of calcific valvular heart disease and pathologic sclerosing of heart valves Proceedings of the European Congress of Cardiology. Stockholm / / J. Card.-2005-Vol.23, № 5.-P.38. • Drug allergy manifestation may be influenced by the activity of underlying herpes virus infections / / Abstracts of the European Congress of Allergology and Clinical Immunology. Geneva. J.Allerg Clin Immunol.-2012-Posters 726.-P.137 Member of the Dissertation Council LNMU im.Danila Galitsky on candidate and doctoral dissertations in the field of "Cardiology" and "Internal Medicine" Member of the editorial boards of "Actual problems of medicine, pharmacy and biology", "Journal of Graduate Medical Education," "Journal of Clinical Lviv," collection "The Phenomenon of Man, a healthy way of life" Author of "Expediency", which in the scientific and philosophical terms summarizes the main achievements, set new priorities for science and medicine, in particular immunocardiology and psychoneuroimmunology, expands the boundaries of scientific inquiry. Honors Honored Worker of Education of Ukraine Sources Official site of Lviv National Medical University named after Danylo Galitsky Lviv National Medical University named after Danylo Galitsky: year 2004. - Moscow: Nautilus, 2004. Lviv Medical Institute, 2011 Yuri Fedorov Ukrainian nationality The scientific scope of cardiology, immunology Work at Lviv National Medical University named after Danylo Galitsky Alma mater Lviv National Medical University named after Danylo Galitsky Academic title of professor Scientific degree PhD File: Example.jpg | Opis1 Categories: Born August 2 Born in 1957 Ukrainian scientists Scientists LNMU Ukrainian cardiologists

Sorry, but this is not the place to post page drafts. Do you want to create a new article with this information? –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 05:02, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

This is not the correct place to start a new article at Wikipedia. This is a place to get questions answered. If you wish to start a new article, please see Wikipedia:Your first article. --Jayron32 05:04, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Info Tables

It seems all tables now have the [Show] function where they are all collapsed and you have to open them to see the information, accept when you open the table the page extends past the edge of the computer screen and doesn't have a horizontal scroller meaning you cannot see some information particularly on wide tables such as racind driver results. Is there a way to correct this on your monitor settings or something you have to live with if you don't have a large monitor? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.156.108.45 (talk) 11:14, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

It was just an error caused at MediaWiki:Common.js. It seems to have been fixed now. Scarce2 (talk) 11:21, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

How can I disable edit confirmations?

Every time I do an edit I get a message saying that my edit was successful. This slows down loading the page and stops me scrolling the page (or if the page does scroll, it does so very jerkily). I find this message annoying and would like to turn it off but can find no option in my preferences to do so. Count Truthstein (talk) 11:47, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

You can turn it off by editing or creating Special:MyPage/common.css and adding this line:

.postedit { display: none;}

-- John of Reading (talk) 11:52, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

This worked for me. Thank you. Count Truthstein (talk) 12:30, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Works for me as well. Very useful. Thanks. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 18:51, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Barbara Hambly

her book "Stranger at the Wedding" is missing from the bibliography — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.253.242.5 (talk) 11:56, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I can see that it is present in the subsection "The Windrose Chronicles" --Anbu121 (talk me) 12:00, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Aarticle

hi,trying to find an article in take a break magazine on 24th feb 2005 issue no 8 titled we thought we we'd won miss world page 37 and also another article In the weekly news in liverpool no-7815-3 march 26th 2005 titled cancer mum tells of beauty queen boost. page 3 thanks very much — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.194.14.24 (talk) 13:03, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 15:06, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Need help with California Secretary of State URL

If you go to http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/cbs.aspx , select Entity Number, and enter 200113510062 , you will come up with a web page for which I would like to add the URL into an article citation. However, I can't come up with the URL that will link to the page having the entity number 200113510062 . Can anyone here figure out the URL? Is there a cite template already set up to do this? -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 13:12, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

It is a JavaScript database query and there is no URL. I suggest:

"Business Search". California Secretary of State. Entity Number 200113510062. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 13:20, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I used the citation. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 13:33, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

have 38person in kendari waiting for accept application for case n pls send 1 person for our case..them from iran

ada 38 orang iran yang sudah lebih 30 hari menunggu kejelasan dari pihak imigrasi,mereka meminta bantuan kepada pihak yang berwenang untuk mendapat izin tinggal di indonesia.tolong kirim bantuan mereka ada di kendari.terimakasih atau dimanakah saya dapat meminta bantuan atas masalah ini? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.138.55.199 (talk) 14:01, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but you are at the help desk of the English Wikipedia and I cannot understand you. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 15:02, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Editing information

Hello, these seems a little unimportant in the vast scheme of things, so I'm sorry. I'm Paul Bettany's sister and I tried changing a couple of inaccuracies on his page but I have been told that my references aren't good enough (I cited Personal Communication). Any thoughts?

Thank you for your time,

Sarah Bettany — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.229.231.66 (talk) 15:09, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I have requested access to either of two pay newspaper articles behind a paywall that appear to support the change you were trying to make. If I get them I will look at what they say and act accordingly.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:39, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Apollo Financial Group

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Redneckgenius/Apollo_Financial_Group&rcid=534607674

This page keeps being killed and I cannot get a straight answer of why. What is the problem with it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redneckgenius (talk • contribs) 15:54, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I see according to the page history that you created the draft less than an hour ago and so far it's only been edited twice - by yourself. What do you mean by it "gets killed"? Roger (talk) 16:27, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

An article "Apollo Financial Group" has been deleted twice in the past few days, once as unambiguous advertising and once for failing to show that the subject is important. Peridon's advice on your talk page is perhaps a bit cryptic, but if you click on the blue links you will find help pages that should explain the issues. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:13, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Windows 8 interface

The new Windows 8 interface is not very good for desktops, see this. Does Windows 8 have an option to use the traditional interface (i.e. Windows 7)? Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 16:07, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

This page is for asking questions as to how to edit Wikipedia. For your computing question, try WP:RDC. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:28, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Whoops, I clicked on the wrong one. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 16:50, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Self-empowered reviewers ....

I find more and more that reviewers for Wikipedia have become biased, self-empowered, and omnipotent in their reviewing, and overall are finding themselves more and more emboldened by declining and denying articles for submission than they actually approve. With very little helpful, constructive, detailed reasoning as to why they deny an article, they simply state the same argument over and over again: this article is not backed up by reliable sources. There are many who cannot even differentiate between a secondary source and a primary source. Many times they do not even research it.

One reviewer in particular takes it upon herself to Google the subject ... and if she cannot find adequate searches to her liking, she will use this as a defense and deny. I've seen it on her talk page 3 times in the last 2 weeks. Is this Google or Wikipedia? and when a particular source is brought into question, she always says: "I did not see that ... thank you for bringing it my attention." Clearly showing that reviewers are becoming too quick to deny than to WORK WITH the submissions to better improve them. Simply passing the buck by sending links on how to better an article.

I feel that reviewers and those supporting them at Wikipedia do more damage to the good of what Wikipedia is, than the articles that they continually deny. By studying their talk pages I have found more and more upset contributors who desperately seek help and further information to better their articles in order to be approved, but the reviewers are curt and vague.

I use Wikipedia daily, and the articles I submit are drawn in model exactly from those already approved. I even have one already approved that I pointed out to a recent reviewer who denied an article that referenced it ~ I stated, if Wikipedia can approve this article, then it should approve this one, too ... and wouldn't you know it ~ since I brought the other article to her attention, she actually had the audacity to submit it for removal and deletion!

I would hope that Wikipedia would better monitor what is going on with these reviewers who seem to think they are the end-all and be-all of Wikipedia. It is detrimental to the progression of a very useful online tool. All I've ever wanted was a detailed rundown of WHY my sources are unreliable, but they only use standard excuses and do not in any way actually reply in a way that they have even read the article.

Furthermore, I have found that some reviewers will deny an article, FULL of reliable sources, if ONE of the sources is not reliable in the reference section. Instead of pointing out which can be called reliable and which need to be placed in different sections, they deny and decline immediately.

It is disheartening at best ... and, I believe, it is the very reason Wikipedia is progressively getting a bad name for itself. If these young, inexperienced reviewers are allowed to feel untouchable during their reign, it will only hurt ... not help.

If someone with just a little time, compassion, and a bit of care, would take a moment to look at my page in detail and see why it has been denied 3 times, I would greatly appreciate it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Aaron_Robinson

Impromp2Music (talk) 17:30, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

The Yahoo Group is likely not reliable at all, but beyond that, I'm not sure I could look at the others to determine their reliability without taking time I do not have right now. I have a question, though: have you read and understood WP:Identifying reliable sources? (Just curious.) - Purplewowies (talk) 17:53, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

The paragraph beginning "I use Wikipedia daily, and the articles I submit are drawn in model exactly from those already approved..." Shows that you probably believe that all articles that currently exist on Wikipedia have been through an approval process. That is in fact not at all the case - only a very small minority of articles are created through the AFC process. There are thousands of articles currently on WP that do not meet the standards. There is no way to know if any exising article has been through an "approval" process. You need to look at the Class ratings given to articles by WikiProjects and use only B or higher rated ones as your models. Roger (talk) 19:30, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Well... wouldn't you be able to tell which articles were from AFC by looking through the history for a move from AFC to mainspace? Unless I'm getting the process for an AFC becoming an actual article wrong. Not that it matters either way; I'm just nitpicking... - Purplewowies (talk) 19:35, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

That's probably true, but given that (aiui) AFC is intended to be a "handholding" process to help newbies write articles it is probably not within their skill set to examine the history - given that most of them haven't the fainest idea what a cite it. Anyway I see the OP's article made it to mainspace shortly after opening this topic. Roger (talk) 14:37, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

If I proposed a merger...

...and I want to get more consensus on it, how can I do so? It's not controversial, and it's not even that I don't think consensus will be to merge, it's just that the talk page is very inactive and I just want to be totally sure on the name it will be merged to, and I'm not sure two people (or really, one person and myself) is enough to call a consensus and merge it there. (For the sake of being completely open and honest, I'm referring to the merge discussion at Talk:Education of the deaf.) - Purplewowies (talk) 19:31, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I'd drop a message at the talk pages of the WikiProjects listed at Talk:Education of the deaf. You can also propose the merger at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers and you might want to consider using WP:RFC (I think listing it at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Unsorted would be most appropriate). -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 19:43, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Fastest recorded tennis serves

Can someone from admin to protect this article for a long time but a few times with different IP addresses entered incorrect and false information? --Kolega2357 (talk) 19:35, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

You can request certain pages be protected at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. Scarce2 (talk) 21:17, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Access to article in old DNB in WikiSource?

While editing various articles, I've used several of the biographies from the old Dictionary of National Biography, which is now in the public domain and available at WikiSource.

I'm currently editing the article on Edward, 2nd Duke of York. There was a biography of him in the old DNB (I think written by James Tait). However WikiSource seems not to have it. See:

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/York,_Dukes_of_%28DNB00%29

It's listed there under, Plantagenet, Edward (d.1415), but shows up in red, and when one clicks on the link it goes to a blank page.

Another link also shows that there was such an article in the old DNB, as it says, near the bottom of the page, EDWARD, second duke of York (1373 ?-1415), see 'PLANTAGENET,' EDWARD

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Plantagenet,_Family_of_%28DNB00%29

Is there any way of obtaining this article?

Thanks for any help with this. NinaGreen (talk) 22:31, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

this one? Jarkeld (talk) 22:45, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Redirected the faulty link to the proper link. Jarkeld (talk) 23:04, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

That's the one. Thank you! NinaGreen (talk) 00:10, 21 October 2012 (UTC)