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June 7

Help delete an image

The person in this image wishes to remove his photo from Wikipedia: File:Leif-Eric_Easley.jpeg Please help me out deleting this image. Thank you! Ewha ohsoo (talk) 01:40, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

It's done. For future reference, you could have edited the page and added to the top the template {{db-g7}}. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:45, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Johnetta Cole article

How do I make a suggestion about a Wiki page that is weak, poorly researched, underwritten?

Dr. Johnetta Cole: Johnnetta B. Cole

Dr. Cole has an extraordinary personal commitment to international work and was part of the VInceremos Brigade I believe, traveling to Cuba several times in order to establish solidarity just after the Cuban Missile Crisis. This is the information I was looking to confirm here in WIKIPEDIA.

Additionally, her teaching style was innovative, profound, challenging and dynamic. For example, often used the term "USA" pronounced "oohsa" to provoke students into recognising that the United States was but one of three nations composing the continent of North America and to underscore the complexity of cultural relativism. Dr. Cole's contributions are many. She is a lifelong activist and social visionary on the order of Cornell West and Maya Angelou. I think this article fails to identify her illustrious conviction, dedication and wisdom as they are not reflected in this article.

TraceElements (talk) 04:28, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

If you have access to reliable, independent written sources you can fix up the article yourself. --Jayron32 04:55, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Just take care to write in neutral language, hagiography is not acceptable. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:33, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

International Golf Federation

Hello,

I left a message yesterday about the International Golf Federation. The answer that I received is that "People who are very close to a subject often have a distorted view of it, which may cause them to inadvertently edit in ways that make the article either too flattering or too disparaging. People with a close connection to a subject are not absolutely prohibited from editing about that subject, but they need to be especially careful about ensuring their edits are verified by reliable sources and writing with as little bias as possible."

I would like to mention that I was not trying to make the article too flattering or too disparaging. I was only trying to correct wrong facts. For example, the International Golf Federation does not recognize Continental Federations, which is what the article is currently stating. I have verified my sources. This article is providing a bad image of the Federation.

Thanks for your help.

Aurélia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.164.155.52 (talk) 07:40, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Advice was given to you in response to your question yesterday; see above at #International Golf Federation page. - David Biddulph (talk) 08:39, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Alger Hiss and the Soviet files

I have now tried twice to answer a comment on the above subject, made after I had done no more than state a fact. On both occasions, you have told me that you could not publish this. The text was apparently wiped on both occasions. There was not even a provision for printing out my text. In other words, I will have to do it from scratch again. 1. Are you putting time restrictions on contributors? 2. Is this for your benefit, or for the users? 3. If you are timing people out, what is the point of it? 4. Why do you not allow people to take a copy of their text? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhosfawr (talk • contribs) 12:38, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

As far as I can see, the only contribution you have made is an edit to the Algar Hiss talk page: [1]. It is still there. If you have made edits under another name, how are we supposed to know where they are? With very few exceptions (e.g. for libellous material, copyright violations etc) material is not deleted from article or talk page histories, so you should still be able to locate it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:15, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

I have never heard of any time restrictions being applied to editors; indeed there is a saying "Wikipedia has no deadline". And everything you have contributed to Wikipedia is still here, either in the article or in the talk page where you put it, or in the "History" of the page where you put it (click on the History tab near the top right of the page), so there is no need for you to type it in again. The only exception would be if you have libelled a living person, or violated someone's copyright, or broken the law in some other way, as AndyTheGrump said; but I see nothing to suggest that that has happened. Maproom (talk) 13:53, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

I think the problem you are having is edit conflicts, if someone else edits the page and saves it while you are editing it wont save for you. If you edit just the section you want to comment on and not the whole page that may help. Also if you use the preview button before you save then use the back button in your browser your text will be there and you can copy/paste it in again. Sarahj2107 (talk) 14:10, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Please don't tell people their text will still be there if the back button is used. That is dependent on the browser.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:44, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Error when trying to upload a new version of an image.

I am trying to upload a new version of File:Zukkoke Knight - Don De La Mancha.jpg, but I keep getting "Upload warning Could not create directory "mwstore://local-multiwrite/local-public/1/10".". Checking "Ignore any warnings" doesn't help. -- Brainy J (previously Atlantima) ~✿~ (talk) 14:17, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Hm, well, it's working now.-- Brainy J (previously Atlantima) ~✿~ (talk) 17:17, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Submission update

I submitted my first submission on April 15 (7 weeks ago). How can I get an update on whether it was accepted or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.84.141 (talk) 14:56, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

There were 188 submissions that day (see Category:AfC submissions by date/15 April 2013), and at certain times, it might have been filed under a different date. None are still pending without response, but without knowing which one you're referring to, your user name, or what other IP address you may have used, it isn't possible to give you a definitive answer, as your post here to the Help desk is the only one from that IP address. Dru of Id (talk) 16:18, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Rejected talk contribution

I put a short comment on the Alger Hiss talk page. Someone commented on it, and I gave a fairly long reply. This was not posted and I want to know why. It was the second time this has happened. I want to know why this was done, and why, when it happens, you do not offer the user the option of printing out the text. I will now have to write my comment the third time. Please tell me what has gone wrong and how to proceed. RhosfawrRhosfawr (talk) 16:42, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

If you are using a PC, holding down the alt key and pressing the left arrow will take you back to the cached version of what you typed. — The Potato Hose 16:48, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

You always have the option of penning your response on your PC first, and saving it locally on your hard drive. There's not enough information in your question (for me) to glean exactly how or why this happened. If your content was deleted by another editor, there may have been a specific reason for that. Or maybe you hit Preview instead of Submit? Maybe there was an edit conflict (two editors editing at once), which prevented your edit from being saved? I'm also confused by something. In this edit you wrote "On both occasions, you have told me that you could not publish this." Who told you that your comment could not be published, and how was that notice delivered to you? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:05, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

(ec x2)According to your contributions log you made only one post to Talk:Alger Hiss. Are you sure you clicked on the "Save page" button and not one of the others? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:01, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Text from an old encyclopedia

Dear Editors:

What is Wikipedia's policy about copying whole articles from a source whose copyright has expired? I realize that it is legal, but is it acceptable? I mention this because it seems that there are many web sites whose whole content is just copied from other web sites, and it seems pointless and annoying when one is searching and has to wade through these duplicates. —Anne Delong (talk) 16:53, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

If one does it, one is expected to say so clearly in the edit summary and in the references. However: any source old enough to have an expired copyright should also be examined for possibly outdated assertions, as well as for a lack of the now-requisite neutral point-of-view, (possibly) for prejudices and antipathies once tolerated but now offensive, and/or for archaic or obsolete terminology and wording. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:40, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica for a well-known example. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:14, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

You almost certainly would want to do some copy-editing/revisions; almost certainly only small parts of the article should be left intact. And almost certainly, if the article is at all lengthy, it's not going to be the normal format for Wikipedia articles. In short, if you do the normal editing that is expected (tone, use of last name only when referring to a person, after the first time, etc.), the problem of identical text should go away. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 19:11, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Reference

How to give references? I cant do it properly, please be simple. I want to write a new article, but cant give reference properly. The link is- Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/India_in_World_War_I

Can any one write this on behalf of me? I dont have enough time.

I have written the introduction a bit, I guess it needs expansion. There will be 4 total main sections(with exception of introduction): 1) Indian Position: Explaining stances of various Indian political parties, including Congress, their conditions. 2) Indian contribution- this will have 3 sub sections- British Indian army involvement, Economic help from India(describing how many food was sent to troops as ration etc) 3) Impact of war: Describing War impact on Indian civil life, food shortage and 1918 Epidemic, price rise. 4) Revolutionary activities mentioning Gadar Conspiracy and Hindu-German Conspiracy with mentioning of Komagata Maru incident, Rash Bihari Bose, Bagha Jatin and 1915 Singapore Indian mutiny. These are only my suggestions. Thank you.Ovsek (talk) 17:02, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

See WP:Referencing for beginners.--ukexpat (talk) 17:03, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Thank you, is siting another Wikipedia article as reference ok?Ovsek (talk) 17:26, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

No, it is not. Wikipedia articles need to be based on reliable, outside sources. If you can obtain the sources the other article uses itself, AND read them yourself, you can use those sources to write material for the new article, however. --Jayron32 17:35, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

There seems to be considerable material in British Raj#First World War, Lucknow Pact: 1914–1918 that overlaps with what you want to cover in your article. You might consider improving that section of the existing article. Or you could tie the two together using the WP:SS approach. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 19:16, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Company name needs changed for legal reasons (John Crane Inc. should be John Crane Group)

Hello,

I'm the director of global corporate communications for John Crane Group, based out of Chicago Il. Our company is listed on wikipedia as John Crane Inc. This needs to be changed to "John Crane Group" due to legal implications. The John Crane Inc. name is a legal entity that does not represent our company and for legal reasons, needs to be changed. We're listed here:

John Crane Inc.

I have updated other corporate content for our company's wikipedia page, but I'm unable to change the main listing called John Crane Inc.

Please change our company listing to John Crane Group. I appreciate your assistance in this matter.

Feel free to contact me to verify the need for the correction, or I can have my general counsel speak with you too and explain.

Regards and thank you,

Alicia Antrim-Highlander Director, Corporate Communications John Crane Group — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aliciasunday (talk • contribs) 17:19, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

 Not doneAccording to the company's own website, "John Crane Inc. is a part of Smiths Group plc.". --Orange Mike | Talk 17:28, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

R.T.COLE HIGH SCHOOL

I want to Know where the R.T.COLE HIGH SCHOOL WAS LOCATED AT. IN KANSASCITY MO.18:30, 7 June 2013 (UTC)65.28.109.41 (talk)

If you use the zoom on this map, it is the complex of buildings bottom left, on the corner of Tracy Avenue and East 19th Street. Please don't SHOUT. - Karenjc 19:23, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Blocked by Editor

I have had my posts deleted and the administrator did not seem to care. However, me account was blocked when I tried to re-post. This is I feel a double standard. I have relied to the editor, but being the coward he is has chosen not to respond to my talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.31.37.100 (talk) 18:58, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Appealing a block. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:00, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Text too small

I called up something on wiki and the print of the text is too small. I looked at other stuff on my computer and none of it is small. As I use your stuff all the time this is a problem for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.219.160.188 (talk) 20:16, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

You may have accidentally changed zoom in your browser. In most browsers you can reset the zoom to 100% with Ctrl+0 or adjust it with Ctrl++ and Ctrl+-. Did that help? PrimeHunter (talk) 21:08, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Edits?

How can I tell who made an edit, what the edit was, and when the edit was made? I see that there is a "view history" page but I cannot tell who made what edit to the page. is that possible? thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.116.247.134 (talk) 21:13, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

See Help:Page history. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:15, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

(e/c) Please take a look at Help:Page history, which answers each of your questions. Note also the tool WikiBlame which allows you to search for a snippet of text in a long page history to see which revision added it. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:18, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Federal voting rights in Puerto Rico

there is an error code on the page I edited, tried to remove the address of web sit, I tried to reference.... cant remove the error code text is correct — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richardforbes2013 (talk • contribs) 22:32, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

I have reverted your edit. As to the content, the public domain material you copied and pasted from the government website was unsuitable in the form you added it and it should not have been placed at the top of the page, above the lead section. The error you saw was because you added a set of citation tags (<ref></ref>) without any content between them.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:47, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

wrong article name

change article name from Lana Nordin to Lana Nodin, sometime even the malaysian media cant put her right name on the newspaper K9x (talk) 22:33, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Put:

{{subst:RMassist|<!--old page name, without brackets-->|<!--requested name, without brackets-->|<!--reason for move-->}}

at the top of the page. CTF83! 23:27, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Or, Be Bold and move it yourself. You should be autoconfirmed by now. See WP:MOVE for instructions. RudolfRed (talk) 23:37, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Lana Nordin appears to be far more common in English. See WP:UE. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:16, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Best way to save barnstars?

Is there a way to save the make your own wikibarnstars?

I have made barnstars with Moissan's image as well as a handshake image. And they're slightly iconic.

TCO (talk) 23:18, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Check out Wikipedia:BARN#Adding_a_barnstar CTF83! 23:28, 7 June 2013 (UTC)