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November 19

alpha with spiritus lenis?

Where can I find the greek letter alpha with spiritus lenis please? Special characters do not contain this combined sign... Thanx! HilmarHansWerner (talk) 02:00, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Selecting "Greek" in the drop-down box below the edit box gives various characters including ἀ and ἁ. They can also be made with ἀ and ἁ, or by copy-pasting them from somewhere. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:19, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

thank you, but a) with "drop down box below the edit box" you seem to mean the drop down menu below "special characters"; there I can NOT find the desired sign... b) there seems to be a problem if you work on an android tablet: I can see only boxes here where you entered your letters... in the edit-mode; in the normal view-mode I see nothing... c) can you please say where you found the code for the signs you gave?! and how do I implement the code so that I see the desired combined (!) sign (alpha with the spiritus above it) in the normal mode? thanks! HilmarHansWerner (talk) 14:44, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

I don't know what Android users see but I wouldn't be surprised if they often have a more limited character set than typical PC users. If a character isn't in a character set then a program has to either ignore it or display something else, for example a box. I'm talking about below and not above the edit box. In a PC browser I see MediaWiki:Edittools below the edit box. That's where I select "Greek". I use the external site http://rishida.net/tools/conversion/ for character conversions. If I copy-paste ἀ to the "Characters" field and click "Convert" then "Decimal NCRs" shows ἀ. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:36, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

thanks a lot indeed! I'm now working with my PC and - low and behold - I can see the alphas... poor android... and now I also found where you toogle to "greek", i.e. in the drop down box that reads initially "insert"... and indeed: the character-set shown there on android is much more limited than on a PC. and the unicode-converter is a useful thing! :-) --HilmarHansWerner (talk) 21:06, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Changing/Updating page name

I am editing a page in which the organism named in the page name has been changed. In Edit mode I cannot change the main heading name.

The case in point: The organism Ommatoiulus moreletii has had a slight name change (to conform to rules of Zoological Nomenclature). The correct specific name is now moreleti (one 'i' has been dropped). How can I change this,please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pelidnoptera (talk • contribs) 02:00, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

You have to move the page. See Wikipedia:Moving a page. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:22, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

 Done, page moved to Ommatoiulus moreleti.--ukexpat (talk) 15:41, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Husband lives after being diagnosed with Acinar Cell Carcinoma of the Pancreas

Hi there, My husband at 37years was diagnosed with Acinar Cell Carcinoma of the Pancreas. On the 3/11/2013 he turned 60years. This tumor had evaded the duodenum and small bowel and encapsulated the main Aorta and two suspect places in the liver. He refuses Chemo and Radiation at the time. At the time of leaving hospital was given a 5% chance of living 1year and 1% chance of living 5years. Told we would have a 1% chance of having any more children. He beat both odds. Just thought this is good news for other patients. He was Looked after by a Team headed by Professor Nathan Gray. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.145.129.131 (talk) 05:10, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, we are indeed very happy for your husband! However, this is not the right place to put it. This page is for queries about editing Wikipedia only. Sorry about that. Darylgolden^(talk) 06:08, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Photo change

Hi How can I change a photograph? I would like to put a much better and more relevant photograph on the PENMYNYDD page! Thank you Angharad — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angharadholmes (talk • contribs) 10:11, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Where is the photograph you want to replace it with? And what is its copyright status? Maproom (talk) 10:47, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

If it is a photo that you took, or where you are in contact with the copyright holder, you may upload it as long as the copyright holder agrees to licence it under a suitable licence: see donating copyright materials for details of how to do this. If it is copyright and you are not in contact with the copyright holder (which is the case for most images on the web), then you may not upload it. For details on uploading, see uploading images, and for using the uploaded photo in an article, see picture tutorial. --ColinFine (talk) 14:30, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Windows

In articles about windows OS such as vista, there is a box near the end showing the 'windows family' but the link to "Windows 9" links to something about NT which is confusing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.104.13.160 (talk) 10:26, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

The link had been added to the template this morning, without explanation, & the target makes no mention of any "Windows 9", so I've reverted this mornming's change. Thanks for pointing it out. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:48, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Delivery certificate

I sent 3 registered latter vaid s.no. ARU599246439,59924641,59924642 ON DATED 3.10.2013. KINDLY GIVE STATES — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.177.227.52 (talk) 11:21, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Yunshui 雲‍水 11:51, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Creating a New Article

Morning All,

I work on behalf of two large Canadian insurance brands who are referenced several times throughout related Wikipedia pages but don't actually have articles of their own. These are both very well known companies but I don't want to create articles for them as my understanding is that it's against guidelines for someone affiliated with a company to create a page. Can I make a request here for someone else to write the article? Is it okay if I do it myself?

Of course it would be entirely non promotional. We could also provide all the facts/information needed in the same format of other non-promotional company pages.

Please let me know what the best way to proceed is.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.225.179.220 (talk) 15:24, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Generally speaking (and especially at the moment, when paid editing is something of a hot topic among Wikipedians) adding an article about a company you work for or are affiliated with is very strongly discouraged. The best course of action would be to submit the two companies at Requested articles, so that an uninvolved editor can take a look at them and write the appropriate articles. Yunshui 雲‍水 15:36, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

You seem to be aware of policies such as WP:COI etc, so a reasonable way forward is to create an account, state your COI and intent on your userpage, and then suggest/create the article at WP:AFC. Success is not guaranteed, but if the companies are very well known it should be possible. Please keep asking questions as necessary, either here or at WP:TEAHOUSE. Good luck! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:42, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Reading this might help: Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:44, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your reply - the companies are definitely very well known! Given that this is strongly discouraged would you recommend that I make the request rather than submit an article for consideration? I imagine Wikipedians enjoy creating content but don't want to put anyone out! How would WP:AFC differ from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Business_and_economics/Companies in terms of where to submit an article suggestion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.225.179.220 (talk) 15:58, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

test — Preceding unsigned comment added by Belairdirect-Grey Power (talk • contribs) 16:28, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

I´ll give you my opinion, which is just that. Wikipedians like to create content of our own choosing, so I think going via WP:RA is less likely to accomplish something. Using WP:AFC and actually creating the article for consideration will probably give some result/response quicker. If you write a flowery ad it will not be accepted. Many Wikipedians (with good reason) might frown upon and be suspicious about what you write, but also reluctantly admit that at least in theory, an article created by you can be acceptable for inclusion, so it´s not actually FORBIDDEN that you try (I´m fairly certain I´m right about that). I hope this helps. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:05, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

By the way, I like the statement on your userpage. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:10, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

However, the user name does not comply with the relevant policy and will probably be blocked.--ukexpat (talk) 19:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Basically, using Requested articles is saying "here is an interesting subject, would someone please write an article on it for me?" while using Articles for Creation says "Here is a draft of an article, would you please look it over and tell me if it is good enough, and perhaps help me improve it?" You see the difference? DES ^(talk) 17:58, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Edit Law Society of Ireland page

I'm looking for help to improve the quality and balance of the information on the Law Society of Ireland page - Law Society of Ireland I've uploaded suggested content with references on the Talk page for review but have received no feedback in 2 months. Due to COI, as I work for the organisation, I haven't made these changes myself. Some feedback or direction would be greatly appreciated! Thanks. FriendlyuserCP (talk) 16:14, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Advertisement on TV

I felt the need to contact Kmart regarding the recently released TV Christmas ad of "Jingle Balls". I've never been as disgusted or grossed out in my life as when watching this advertisement. You should be ashamed of yourselves for degrading the traditional, well known and loved holiday song. I don't know what you were thinking when you released such a trashy display representing your business. I can only hope that you pull this ad immediately from anymore viewers and an apology to the general public would be highly recommended to restore the stores integrity.

Happy holidays, Kathy Pelletier — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.117.13.192 (talk) 16:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:24, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

We are in no way affiliated with KMart. Darylgolden^(talk) 23:52, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

New Wikipedia critic site

I am setting up a brand new Wikipedia critic site and I need permission to use your logos. The critic site will tell the public how Wikipedia is unreliable (by demonstrating how easy it is to edit) , link to articles with sexual images, etc. So for these purposes it will be highly appreciated if I could use the appropriate logos. Don't worry, all claims will be backed up with due evidence (plus we will store some screenshots should you decide to delete evidence). So, please allow us to do this...InSANITYreTURN (talk) 17:42, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

This page is for questions about how to use and edit Wikipedia – so it's not the right place for your question. I don't know what is the right place. However, this may help. Maproom (talk) 19:52, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

That's the draft policy. The current policy is at: Foundation:Trademark policy.--ukexpat (talk) 21:56, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Red user names

I know that red links are for pages that don't exist; however how is it some users have red user pages or talk pages, how do you disable those? CensoredScribe (talk) 18:50, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Well, simply speaking, those links are red because their user pages or user talk pages don't exist (yet). The way to "fix" that is by creating their user page or talk page, but I would strongly recommend that you do not create a user's talk page just to turn a red link blue, and definitely do not do it for their user page. If they want a redlinked (i.e. nonexistent) userpage, that's their choice. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 18:53, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Or theoretically, since users can change the colors (as well as just about anything else) about their sig, they could make their sig so that it has proper links to their existing user page and talk page, but the color of those letters is in red). I don't think there is anything in policy against it, but it would be annoying.Naraht (talk) 18:58, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Mistake on John Huston page

In one place (early life) it says his first marriage lasted one year.

Further down (personal life?) it says it lasted 7 years.

Please pass this along to whoever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.191.205.27 (talk) 20:28, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I have changed the personal life section to say "This marriage ended after a year in 1926." [1] PrimeHunter (talk) 20:50, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

This source says on page 38 they divorced in 1938 and this source seems to suggest Huston was 20 at the time of the marriage. So if that is correct the marriage lasted from 1926-1938, which makes 12 years. I can't confirm whether the second source really refers to the time of the marriage, as I can't get the Google Books snippet to scroll further down. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 21:14, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, I found many sources saying they married in 1924 or 1925 and divorced in 1926, but now I also find many sources saying they married in 1926 or 1927 and divorced in 1933. The latter sources look more reliable. Your first link says 1933 and not 1938. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:16, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Huh, well, I must have mixed up the year and the page number. Was a long day yesterday .... -- Toshio Yamaguchi 21:26, 20 November 2013 (UTC)