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September 14

Align external video template box to left

How do I align the external video template (box) to the left? Trying to use the align command and it does not seem to move.71.127.131.41 (talk) 01:07, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

float command does the trick — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.117.75.177 (talk) 14:50, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

George Miller. Arizona politician

George Miller , Arizona Politician is in correct. The article combines information for George Miller AZ and George Miller CA. This needs to be corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.235.193.227 (talk) 03:19, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

I would suggest leaving a note with your specific objections on the article's talk page so that interested editors who are familiar with the subject, might help to improve it. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:47, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Help with advanced-level reference formatting

Hello colleagues! I'm seeing some problems at SpongeBob SquarePants that I'm not qualified to fix on my own and was hoping an editor with more experience with elaborate references could take a look at this. At the bottom of the References list is this text:

{{Cite book|title=Makin' Toons: Inside the Most Popular Animated TV Shows and Movies|publisher=Allworth Communications, Inc|author=Neuwirth, Allan|isbn=1-58115-269-8|year=2003|pages=50, 252–253}}

It seems odd that this reference is floating at the end of the reference section like an afterthought, rather that it should be included inline in the first spot where Neuwirth is mentioned. However, I also see text like this: <ref name="Neuwirth 2003, p. 51">[[#Rocko|Neuwirth 2003]], p. 51</ref>, which seems more complicated, pointing to different page numbers at that reference, and I'm not familiar with those workings. Can someone take a look at the references and fix it so that at least this reference properly pointed at throughout the article? Thanks, and sorry for the extra work. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:37, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

This looks like a variation on "Shortened footnotes". I've made an edit. The stray line you mention is now under a "Works cited" section heading, and where the references mention "Neuwirth" and "Banks", those blue links now jump you down to the relevant line in the "Works cited". -- John of Reading (talk) 13:42, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

(More) Actually I should have looked at the history before making the edit. I've more or less taken the article back to this revision, where VP44444 (talk · contribs) had got a similar scheme working correctly. Feel free to revert me or to re-instate one of the earlier revisions. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:54, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Responses to replies required?

I'm having a conversation on my talk page, and it seems as though replies to responses to opinions I post at requested moves must have replies within a day of their being posted. Is there some policy I missed where a reply is required at such a quick pace, or that a reply is necessary (can a reply thread just peter out, or must it continue until the discussion is closed)? -- 70.24.244.158 (talk) 07:12, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

No, there is no requirement to reply, ever. There may be expectations on the part of other editors, and other editors may take a lack of response within a couple of days [24 hours is clearly too short; most editors have real lives outside of Wikipedia] as a sign that an editor no longer wants to debate a point, but those are not rules - those are human behaviors. I'm sure that a large percentage of discussions do just peter out (or end abruptly), since there is no way to force editors to achieve closure.

More generally - we're all volunteers here, and the best way to continue to help improve Wikipedia is to do what you get satisfaction from doing. If you run into a place where you think behaviors, including expectations, are unreasonable, or unpleasant, then the doctor's advice about "It hurts when I do this" is relevant: "Stop doing that." -- John Broughton (♫♫) 18:38, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks -- 70.24.249.39 (talk) 09:02, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Wrong photo on User:Dr. David Herzog

The photo on User:Dr. David Herzog is wrong. The individual shown in the photo is not the individual described in the text. Please remove the photo.

Thank you so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. David Herzog (talk • contribs) 11:09, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

There isn't any photograph on David Herzog or User:Dr. David Herzog. GB fan 11:27, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Could the user being doing a Google search and thinks the photo being displayed is being displayed because of Wiki? Google controls their own systems and it is they who must be notified if their system is associating an incorrect photo with someone. Caffeyw (talk) 11:57, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

• After doing a Google search I'm 100% sure this is what the user is talking about. The photo being displayed is of another doctor by the name of David Herzog. They both have the same names, are doctors, and practice in the same general part of the country. Google is going to have problems knowing which to pick. Caffeyw (talk) 12:03, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. The same feedback facility is also provided on Bing and some other search engines. --13:04, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

While "we" do not have any control over what image is displayed, you do. Click on the "feedback" link, then click on the word "wrong" to let Google know that the image is incorrect. Another solution is to send us a photo, with permission, that we can use, and if it is added to the Wikipedia article, it is highly likely that Google will display that image.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 15:00, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Geo-coordinates?

Hi, there. I'm wanting to create a geonotice for an upcoming edi a-thon, and I'm unsure how to determine a range of coordinates for the event. I know how to find geo-coordinates for a single point location, but how do you do it for, say, a 50-square mile radius from that point? Or a box roughly 50 miles from that point? Thanks in advance for the advice! Girona7 (talk) 13:29, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

According to Geographic coordinate system, one degree of latitude is about 110 kilometres (68 mi) on the ground, so you need to add and subtract about three quarters of a degree north and south. The length of a degree of longitude varies with latitude, but there's a table at Geographic coordinate system#Expressing latitude and longitude as linear units. Any good? -- John of Reading (talk) 14:37, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Groovy. Thanks for the tip! Girona7 (talk) 15:43, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Question about resubmitting article

Hi, I have done substantial editing to an article I have been resubmitting (Ronald Goetz). I pretty much deleted the whole thing and started from scratch, but now the thing won't automatically resubmit. I probably erased something. Can you tell me how to fix it so it resubmits when I save it? Thanks, Rebecca — Preceding unsigned comment added by RebeccaClancy (talk • contribs) 14:08, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

I have put the header back on Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Ronald Goetz so that you can resubmit it. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:30, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Not sure where to post this

Resolved

Not sure where to post this so posting here to ask. User Mbsentertainmnettv is clearly a company account, and from the edits it has made so far it's clear it's sole purpose is to promote MBS Entertainment channel shows. I've marked the one article and cat. for deletion because of problems with them, and that doesn't include COI. Just not sure where to post it since I know company accounts aren't allow, and COI editing sure isn't allowed. Caffeyw (talk) 16:33, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

The username notice board. WP:UAA. Dismas|^(talk) 18:42, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, didn't know there was such a thing. Caffeyw (talk) 21:50, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Blocked. 88.104.27.75 (talk) 03:38, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Who is maintaining Hotcat?

Can anyone point me in the direction of whomever is maintaining WP:HC? It suddenly stopped working for me and I'd like to be able to use it again. I've left messages on Wikipedia_talk:HotCat and it's compliment on MediaWiki as well as some past contributor's personal talk pages, but have never rec'd replies. Thanks in advance for any help, Meclee (talk) 16:36, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't know whether this will help, but I had hotcat for some time; a few weeks ago I noticed it wasn't there, and I had to go to preferences and turn it back on.

Preferences → Gadgets--SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:43, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Notability of academic centres

Is there an established notability standard for academic centres or programs? I'm referring to institutes, programs, and centres for example within universities. I've searched around and can't find one. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethicsblogger (talk • contribs) 17:05, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

WP:ORG --erachima talk 18:41, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

You might find this an interesting read too. Wifione ^Message 20:13, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Request footnote format cleanup

Could a fellow volunteer please clean up the format for footnotes 35-46 in fluorine? I DON'T mean to be "peel me a grape", but it is very hard for my eyes/fingers to do the cite format detail. Am putting a lot of work into content and prose smoothness. And article is important and "good". So if collaborator can clean up after me, mucho mucho appreciation (barnstar poised).71.127.131.41 (talk) 17:46, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Working on it.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 19:06, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

35  Done
36  Done
37  Done
38 Looks fine?
39  Done
40  Done
41  Done
42  Done
43  Done
44  Done
45  Done
46  Done
--SPhilbrick(Talk) 19:51, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

schwing 71.127.131.41 (talk) 19:59, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Heh :)--SPhilbrick(Talk) 20:52, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

38 [fixed]. Done? 88.104.27.75 (talk) 03:36, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm not quite following your point, unless you are asking if it is all done now. It is. I fixed all but 38, and I thought that looked fine. OP agreed. Someone else made a change to 36 (I missed that it was already in the indexed list) and somehow, a couple errors crept in. I just fixed them. So all the refs in that range are fine now. (As an aside, I'm stunned at how active the editing is for such an established article.)--SPhilbrick(Talk) 13:19, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm one of the two main contributors to the article. It's mostly polishing and doing that is my way of reengaging with the material. There are some larger aspects of content improvement in certain sections...but I just find it easier to go through in article order rather than priority order.71.127.131.41 (talk) 13:59, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Arrietty

I have edited the cast section of the Arrietty page from a confusing bullet point list to a table. I believe I have done this correctly, keeping the links to actors and references, but as this is my first editing on wikipedia, would appreciate if someone could please have a quick look and make sure I haven't messed anything up, in particular the Japanese script. Also, I am unsure about the location of the section within the article. Thank you! Panoptikate (talk) 20:56, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

I cannot read Japanese, but on the face of it, the edits seem fine. You could also check out how casting has been laid out in a more descriptive format in articles like Django Unchained, I, Robot (film), and Prometheus. The descriptive style might assist the reader in understanding why the UK issue is different from the US issue etcetera. Write back for further assistance. Regards. Wifione ^Message 21:08, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Adding link to French article on Jean-Christophe Keck

 Done

I have tried several times on different days to create a link on the left menu to the French language version of Jean-Christophe Keck from the English page, but each time I get an error / time-out message. Thanks. Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 21:11, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Done; no idea why it didn't work for you. Should be OK now? Jean-Christophe Keck 88.104.27.75 (talk) 03:07, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

I've now done it the currently preferred way: added the English Wikipedia page to the existing Wikidata item d:Q3164752, and then removed the local interwikilink that 88.104 added. --ColinFine (talk) 08:43, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your help with that. Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 17:59, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Special:RecentChangesLinked exception

Hi, is it possible to make an exception from watching by {{fullurl:Special:RecentChangesLinked|target={{FULLPAGENAMEE}}&namespace=0}} with something like nonincluded tag? Dominikmatus (talk) 22:17, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Simple answer is 'no'. It could be done by you filtering the stuff it kicks out, but... if you wanna get into that, I think you want WP:VPT 'coz it all gets a bit geeky. Basically, it's something you'd need to do "client-side" - ie, get all the changes from the wiki stream, and filter them as you wish. Sorry there's not a more simple answer, best, 88.104.27.75 (talk) 03:28, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

@Dominikmatus: You could just set up a second page: On the first you mark what you don't want included; the second page is a transclusion of the first (so it won't have the nonincluded section[s]). Then run RecentChangesLinked against the second page. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 20:46, 15 September 2013 (UTC)