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March 23

Asian woman's

Hi my name is saima .and I am from Pakistan .i been here since eleven years .when I came here I don't know any thing but my life teach me every thing I got four kids one girl and three boys .my husband got thyroid cancer and arthritis as well .but I am still with him because he is my life partner .and I start my collage and don my makeup artistry and doing beauty therapist course to sport my family .i never saw my mum and dad for last ten years .but I am still very patient I know my hard work one day change our life .rite now I am surfing hard .but I hope one day i will going to start my own business soon . I apply for a lone for start my saloon .but it is very hard for a woman without any sport . But I don't give up I want to give my children's a good life and high education.for their better future .<ref name="Saima rizvi" group=BBC>{{cite news|last=Rizvi|first=Saima|title=Mrs|newspaper=BBC|date=24/ 3/2014}}</ref>

Hello Saimi. It is unclear from your post what it is you are seeking at this desk. This is a help desk of Wikipedia, an online encyclopedia. This forum is for asking questions about using Wikipedia. We do have a reference desk for asking knowledge questions, but your post above does not seem to contain any question at all. Can you clarify what you are seeking here? Thanks--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:49, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Referencing errors on The Singers Unlimited

Reference help requested. I have completely revised the "Discography" on the page for "Singers Unlimited" but I can't get the system to accept my edits of the discography section. And, I am being confused by the explanations given about a "Reference List". I have replaced all the lines in the discography that had errors in them with verifiable information from the 15 original Singers Unlimited vinyl LP records because the information on almost all the existing lines had errors on almost every line, especially with regard to dates of the recordings and the original album numbers, and the sequence of the release of the albums. I have corrected all the incorrect references with verifiable facts. But the system rejects my input saying that I have created a "reference list error". So, here are all the corrected lines that should be in the discography.

Will someone there please replace the existing lines of the discography with these lines which are all veritably accurate. I can't figure out how to use "Wikipediaese" ""reflist"".

Thanks, DanMcGarigle (talk) 02:37, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Done. You had a ref tag below {{reflist}}. (I took the liberty of cutting the discography and the headings in your above message, hope you don't mind!) Best, Sam Sailor ^Sing 02:51, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

@DanMcGarigle: (e/c) Hi Dan. Please see Help:Referencing for beginners. In short, citations to reliable sources go inside the text, directly next to the things they verify, and those citations, inside of <ref> ... </ref> tags, are collated and displayed in the references section you properly placed through the {{reflist}} template. You cannot place a citation inside of ref tags below the {{reflist}} template, which will result in an error message. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:58, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

American thermoplastic company

American thermoplastic company closed its doors in Pittsburgh in December 2013. The company name and its customer database was then sold to a company in Alabama. The attempted edit stating this fact was not vandalism. Average reader 2014 (talk) 03:11, 23 March 2014 (UTC) average reader 2014

Could you please provide a source? I can't find that information on their Company History page.  —71.20.250.51 (talk) 03:38, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Derek DelGaudio

The proper place to submit a suggested article is at WP:AFC.

Derek DelGaudio is an American performance artist, writer, and magician. His public work includes, 184 Seconds, a conceptual magic performance, #derekshowlive, a magic show performed solely on Twitter and Nothing To Hide, a theatrical magic show, Directed by Neil Patrick Harris. Nothing To Hide debuted at The Geffen Theater in Los Angeles in 2012 and opened at The Signature Theater in New York City in 2013. In 2010, Derek co-founded, along with artist Glenn Kaino, A.BANDIT, an experimental performance-art collective. A.BANDIT has staged interventions at Art L.A. Contemporary in Santa Monica, The Ball of Artists, Art Basel Miami, LA><ART, and at The Kitchen in New York. Together, Derek and Glenn also created The Mistake Room, a platform for situation-specific projects, as well as, The [Space] Between, a “conceptual magic shop.” In 2011, the Conjuring Arts Research Center appointed Derek their Director of Contemporary Conjuring. The Academy of Magical Arts named Derek Close-up Magician of the Year in 2011 and again in 2012. In 2014, Derek was selected to be the “Artist in Residence” for Walt Disney Imagineering. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Larry Hess (talk • contribs) 04:07, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Recovering history of old article

Several years ago, around 2009, I added a small, but in my view significant change to

Incompleteness of quantum physics.

I felt very good that the change I made was accepted in further development of the article.

Now the above address has been redirected to

Hidden variable theory

I very much would like to recover the history over the time I made my small change to the no-longer-existing article I contributed to.

I cannot find a way to trace back to that original article.

Can you please help me?

Again, what I'm looking for is the history of the first-cited article above. Can that be retrieved? And if so, can you give me advice on how to do it?

TDMartin (talk) 04:38, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

you can track changes either by the article page history tab [1] or by your personal history tab which will take you to Special:Contributions/TDMartin. (you can get to the article page of a redirect by clicking on the blue notice at the top of the landing page that says (Redirected from Incompleteness of quantum physics).

Click on the link of the date on the left hand side and the article as it appeared as of that edit will display. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 05:08, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

For a direct link to the redirected article's history, click here. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Incompleteness_of_quantum_physics&action=history - Purplewowies (talk) 05:09, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Help against rooming.

Dear Sirs. Is it possible to keep one semiinvalid over 25 years through rooming.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.217.124.193 (talk) 09:42, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. CaptRik (talk) 09:43, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Update on Montserrat medical school: University of Science, Arts and Technology

To Whom it May Concern,

In the accreditation portion of the article it does not list that the University of Science, Arts and Technology does have multiple accreditation's. The first is ASIC which is through the U.K., second is the CAPERS accreditation through Canada, and finally that it is recognized by the ECFMG. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.203.13.195 (talk) 14:07, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable source stating this? If so, you may add it yourself.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:20, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Invention

I have an invention I would like to submit, but I'm not sure how to do it. I went into quirky.com and ended up on this site. Don't know what I'm doing wrong. Can you help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sealady1943 (talk • contribs) 14:36, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

We have no connection with quirky.com. I'm guessing you typed "help" in the wrong search box. Suggest you go back here and try again.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:52, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia Fiona Kimm

Recently there were questions about the photograph that I used on the 'Fiona Kimm' Wikipedia page. It was scheduled for deletion. I sent to Wikipedia the background to the use of this photograph which was as follows. The photograph was taken by the photographer, Helen Neale in 2010. Helen Neale gave me permission to use the photograph and I sent this e-mail to Wikipedia when I saw the query about the use of the photograph. Despite this the image has been removed! Can you tell me how I go about reinstalling the image which is of the person the page is about, the use of the image has been authorised by the photographer and Wikipedia was sent the information. I don't use Wikipedia frequently so any changes like this need me to travel up a steepish learning curve! Any help gratefully received.

I look forward to hearing from you. David Cooper — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wickuser (talk • contribs) 15:37, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

the actual owner of the copyright would need to confirm directly with Wikimedia. See the process at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:25, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Citing a web forum

We have an established way to cite Newsgroups, through the cite newsgroup template. But how would I go about citing a post in a web forum board? For what it's worth, web forum boards (forum has no plural) essentially are an HTTP evolution of the newgroup. Yannis A. ^✆|☑ 16:27, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

I don't know where you got that, but, as far as I know, the plural of forum is forums or fora. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 17:10, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Alas, too few people would understand fora, and forums is a neologism that must be avoided like the plague. This is, of course, just my opinion. Anyway, you didn't provide an answer to my question, just commentary. Yannis A. ^✆|☑ 17:27, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Forum posts are self-published sources and should only rarely be cited. If it's a mailing list which also has a web interface then you can use {{Cite mailing list}}. Otherwise you can just use {{Cite web}} with the forum name in the website parameter. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:26, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

how do i get my profile on wikipedia

my name is bruce m forester MD and bruce forester author of mystery novels. born may 25, 1939. web site www. bruceforester.com.how do i get included in your online book. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruce2113 (talk • contribs) 17:21, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not an advertising platform or a directory. In order to have a stand alone article about a subject, the topic must have been the subject of significant coverage by reliably published, independent sources. As someone with a conflict of interest you should not create or directly edit an article about yourself and instead wait for someone with no connection to you to do so. You can make a suggestion at the "requested article" notice board and see if someone there will create the article. Providing the reliable third party sources would be an incentive to a potential writer. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:37, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Question about "help:page name" example

On "help:page name" the example http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Pagename_explanation2.png has a caption saying, "...and the URL is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvo_D'Acquisto" as an external (non-wikilink). Shouldn't it be an internal/Wikilink?

Just FWIW from an "anal-yst"! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Webistrator (talk • contribs) 17:45, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

An external link with the usual external link icon seems appropriate when a URL is displayed. It's made automatically as you can see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvo_D'Acquisto (click edit to see I wrote the url just like that). A wikilink would be the code [[Salvo D'Acquisto]] which produces Salvo D'Acquisto (I don't know why the example used underscore instead of space). I'm not sure why you think the example should be different but maybe Help:Link will clear it up for you. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:47, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

I see you posted another formulation at Help talk:Page name#Example "Pagename explanation2.png" shows an external URL to Wikipedia -- ???. That may shed more light on the source of confusion so I copy part of my reply here: "a wikilink is defined by how it's made (with double square brackets, see Help:Link), and not by where it goes. google:example is a wikilink (click edit to see how I made it). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvo_D'Acquisto is not a wikilink." PrimeHunter (talk) 19:01, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

please make this page

i do not understand the methods for uploading and editing, i do not want to learn or try to edit anyone's entry. i would like some one to make this historic event item and link the other correct wiki articles, i am requesting the creation of a page or article or what you call it. i am a credible source. i was a participant . also many other witness accounts will confirm my text as true. i also have linked some media sources that i have found on the internet. i do not have the skill. the article is well verified . please create it for me and others who walked.

suggested article content does not belong here

the world peace march sources for world peace march 1981-82 https://archive.org/details/KxprArchive-SacramentoSpectrumWorldPeaceMarch http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/WPM82DC1.html http://wagingnonviolence.org/2009/06/remembering-the-1982-rally-against-nuclear-arms/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBQjYLQHhVY https://www.facebook.com/notes/marty-smith/disarament-has-been-a-movement-since-arms/637988282940624 http://books.google.ca/books?id=CbFmB0wRaacC&pg=PA15&lpg=PA15&dq=%27%27the+world+peace+march+1981,San+Francisco+%22&source=bl&ots=tjlS7Vlhwe&sig=92D5M3Mva9GgzLsv2Rpg2KTrXx0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GdctU9LbDMGRqgH48YDQDw&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=%27%27the%20world%20peace%20march%201981%2CSan%20Francisco%20%22&f=false http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/SBstupa82.html \ http://www.nytimes.com/movies/movie/431418/The-World-Peace-March/overview Nichidatsu Fujii's message at the beginning of a peace walk, http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000/Fujii2.pdf page 49 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/sun-reach/conversations/topics/60 in 1981,Nichidatsu Fujii, dispatched his followers to march and chant around the globe in support of the U.N. 2nd. special session for disarmament. In the U.S.A. marchers began in New Orleans, San Diego, and San Francisco, in Canada marchers began in Montreal and Toronto. The San Fransisco March began on Oct. 21, 1981 with a ceremony on Alcatraz. 13 marchers, being Buddhist followers of Nipponzan-Myōhōji, Native Americans, U.S. and German citizens, began the S.F. march. marching about 20 mile per day they were hosted each night by community groups in every town and on Native reservations. many mayors and town councils made proclamations and such honoring the the peace and disarmament marchers. over the course of the march citizens were moved to join. By the time they arrived in Chicago the S.F. marchers numbered about 30. in may of '82 the group of about 40 marchers from Toronto Ont. joined the S.F. group in Buffalo N.Y. at the International Peace Bridge doubling the size of the group. thru the state of N.Y. 10 to 20 people joined the march daily.when the S.F. group walked across the George Washington Bridge they numbered about 300. the groups on other march routs also grew over the 7 months. on June 12, 1982, In Central Park Nipponzan-Myōhōji marchers from the U.S.A., Europe, Africa, and Asia, joined with mobilization for survival organizers and religious and peace groups from around the world in a peaceful demonstration for disarmament of many million people. Nichidatsu Fujii (藤井 日達 Fujii Nichidatsu?, 1885–1985) was a Japanese Buddhist monk, and founder of the Nipponzan-Myōhōji order of Buddhism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichidatsu_Fujii

martin smith — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.91.156.200 (talk) 18:05, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Please make your request at Wikipedia:Requested articles - Arjayay (talk) 18:25, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Hiding Red Links

Is there any way I can hide red links from articles? If there is no page that exists, I don't want to see the jarring red links. I've looked through the settings and I can't find anything. Is there a CSS option I could use? Thanks, MeanMotherJr (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 21:26, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Place this in your CSS:

.mw-body a:link.new { color: #000000; } /* color of red links */

PrimeHunter (talk) 22:40, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Rebhorn

Rebhorn played Bradley Raines on Guiding Light. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.189.190 (talk) 22:37, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

I was sorry to read that James Rebhorn died. His article does say exactly what you said. — Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:29, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Article count

Hello! I would like to ask how could I view the full list of articles created myself? --Norden1990 (talk) 22:45, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Click "Articles created" at the bottom of Special:Contributions/Norden1990. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:23, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I see. That bottom line does not appear in the Hungarian-language editing interface. --Norden1990 (talk) 01:05, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Right, the line is customized for the English Wikipedia at MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer. Nearly all customizations are only made for the default English language. It's possible to do for other language settings, in your case at MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer/hu, but there are hundreds of languages and we don't bother. You can see the English interface without changing language or logging out by adding ?uselang=en to the url, for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Norden1990?uselang=en. If the url already has a '?' then add &uselang=en. I have made a script to do this with a click: User:PrimeHunter/English interface.js. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:04, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Problems with moving an article into Wikipedia

I attempted to move an article from my sandbox to Wikipedia. The article is about the extreme endurance athlete Bill Bradley who recently set a world record. Since there is a very famous athlete/senator Bill Bradley who already has a page, I thought using the title Bill Bradley, extreme endurance athlete would be sufficient to distinguish the page.

Unfortunately, the title was inappropriate and I was not allowed to move the page. Unfortunately there does not seem to be a way to undo what I have done and try again to move the page. Can you assist with this or tell me what to do?

The url still seems to be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jabailey1/sandbox, though there is now a note that says the article has been redirected.

Thank you for your assistance.

Jabailey1 (talk) 22:59, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

The move form has a namespace dropdown box where you must choose "(Article)". However, we use parentheses for disambiguation like at Bill Bradley (disambiguation). "Bill Bradley (endurance athlete)" would work. It shouldn't be too long and "extreme" is not needed. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:28, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

I moved the page back, which you can do if there's no other history at the page you moved it from. I've tagged the userpage you created when you moved it to the new page for deletion. The page is now actually at User:Jabailey1/sandbox. - Purplewowies (talk) 23:33, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

On the basis that disambiguating titles should be as simple as possible, I have moved it to Bill Bradley (athlete) and converted the redirect on the sandbox page to a plain wikilink.--ukexpat (talk) 18:04, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

I oppose that title as too generic for disambiguation here. Athlete can be used about many sports and Bill Bradley (disambiguation) shows five other athletes with articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:44, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Opposition noted, page now back at Bill Bradley (endurance athlete).--ukexpat (talk) 20:21, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I think Bill Bradley (athlete) should either be deleted or redirect to Bill Bradley (disambiguation). PrimeHunter (talk) 20:43, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Especially since Senator Bill Bradley was an athlete before he was a Senator. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:06, 26 March 2014 (UTC)