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August 31

Please block User:Skirtland in English Wikipedia who is identified as sockpuppet of Unypoly

Please block User:Skirtland in English Wikipedia who is identified as sockpuppet of Unypoly and globally blocked: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Skirtland. Orient-Kor (talk) 06:08, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

This isn't the right place for the request, Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents might be better, but I've blocked anyway Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:49, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Autumn Phillips

re. above page - I removed unnecessary ref. - it is mentioned in the next section. Is this article otherwise OK? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srbernadette (talk • contribs) 10:08, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Regarding the repetition itself there is no big problem with the repetition. I also personally don't think that the help desk is the correct page to pose such a question. Usually people go to the article's talk page but still if no specific problem is spotted, I don't think it is necessary (or even appropriate) to ask for advice for every single page. The Average Wikipedian (talk) 12:21, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Trying to edit an existing company page that is wrong and out of date

HI,

I work for the National Youth Orchestras of Scotland and I am trying to legitimately update and correct our Wikipedia entry, but my changes can't be saved. Instead I get this message.

Welcome to Wikipedia! Your edit has triggered a filter designed to warn editors, organisations and companies against using Wikipedia as an advertising medium. Wikipedia is foremost an encyclopedia, and not a vehicle for advertising or promoting organisations, companies or individuals. If that is not your intent, we apologize. However, before you continue you may wish to review Wikipedia's guidelines on conflict of interest and external links, as these may help you decide whether the information you want to include is appropriate for Wikipedia. You may also wish to check Wikipedia's username policy, which prohibits promotional usernames. Please feel free to ask at the Help Desk if you have any questions. If you're sure you still want to make this edit, go to the bottom of this page and click 'Save page' again, and it will be submitted as is. If you believe you received this message in error, you may report this error.

Could you help please.

Many thanks, Anthony Coia — Preceding unsigned comment added by NYOS (talk • contribs) 14:09, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Please read WP:COI, in general people who work for an organization shouldn't be updating the page about it. If you put what you think should be changed on the talk page for the article Talk:National Youth Orchestra of Scotland, I'll take a look at it. Also, Wikipedia's policies on usernames indicate that a username should represent an individual, *not* an organization. (See WP:USERNAME). Anthony_at_NYOS as a username would be fine. I'm not quite sure what hit the trigger, but I'll take a look at the talk page after you add things and we should be able to figure it out.Naraht (talk) 14:37, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

• @NYOS: Further, your edits are very promotional; we are a neutral encyclopedia and we don't talk in "we" mode. Too much puffy language. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:41, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Adding further to what the other replies have said, Anthony, please be aware that it is in no sense whatever "your" page: it is Wikipedia's article about your orchestra. In general, Wikipedia has very little interest in what any organisation (or any person) says or wishes to say about themselves, being much more concerned with what other people, unconnected with them, have said about them. If you have changes to suggest with citations to independent reliable published sources which support those changes, please post them on the Talk page, as Naraht says. --ColinFine (talk) 15:16, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Creating a company page

Hello,

How can we establish a company page?

We had tried this several years ago (we have been in business for 14+ years!) and a Wikipedia editor rejected us. We have been told by people in large companies that their publicity department(s) have ways to post to Wikipedia by working with you directly on it.

Most firms in our space (including competitors of ours) have very professional looking Wikipedia pages. We feel it would be only fair to have a page for our company up as well. We have assembled URLs to articles to help drive the level of public discourse your documents call for, so we can start with a very basic post backed with URLs to many resources. We are concerned that your editors would again kick it back saying we can't post about ourselves (?).

We would appreciate your guidance about how to submit about our own company in a manner that will not be rejected again.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.207.8.171 (talk) 16:46, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Hello there! I suggest you go to Wikipedia:Articles for creation and submit an article for review. Regards, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 16:51, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

The best thing to do is to post a request at Wikipedia:Requested articles/Business and economics/Companies. Make sure you include the list of sources (articles about your company) that you mentioned in your request. Please realize that a company does not own or control its Wikipedia page. Please realize that people who work for a company have a conflict of interest and should not write or edit pages about themselves or the companies they work for directly. The sources that are used to write the article must be independent, meaning not written by the company. They must be previously published by reliable publishers. The article must demonstrate that the company is notable in its field, which is accomplished by proper sourcing. If you need help, including someone to evaluate sources, let me know on my talk page. Also, you might want to talk to Corporate M for guidance. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 17:02, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Lenoir City, TN

One of the oldst buildings. This building was constructed in 1905 by the International order of Odd Fellows IOOF and is still owned by the same group. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.167.1.1 (talk) 16:50, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Could you provide a bit of context? FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 16:52, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

My info keeps getting deleted.

I'm a SAG Actor, and I'm part of the cast for a feature film,Holding Patterns (film). I'm trying to add my name to the Cast list and add acting credits to my personal biography page and it keeps getting deleted. How do I do this to get it to stay? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lonnie Knight, Actor (talk • contribs) 19:32, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Presumably you didn't realise that you have a user talk page? If you read that, you will find many messages with useful advice. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:38, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

And cast lists in film articles are usually limited to the main cast or "the most relevant actors and roles", see WP:FILMCAST for more detailed information. Reverts in the article history show, that you haven't provided an independet reliable source for such a claim yet. GermanJoe (talk) 19:50, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

What is the proper way to ping a user?

How can i ping a user within a comment? Thanks.prokaryotes (talk) 22:09, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

The instructions for pinging an editor and the various templates used are listed here Wikipedia:Notifications#ping Prokaryotes. Two things to note - A) the post that you make MUST have your signature with it when you hit the save button - if it doesn't the ping wont work - if you go back and add your signature later the ping still wont work - B) Pings do not work for IPs so if you want them to see your post you will have to go to their talk page and leave a message for them. Other editors may have more info for you. MarnetteD|Talk 22:20, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you MarnetteD prokaryotes (talk) 22:24, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

You are welcome Prokaryotes. You just provided an example of my first point - because you added you signature after you had saved your message I didn't get a ping. It can be a little tricky to learn this but once you get the hang of it things should go okay. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 22:29, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

requested articles?

where can i find them thank you? --Softstarrs23 (talk) 23:11, 31 August 2015 (UTC) like i would like to find some and add information to them. --Softstarrs23 (talk) 23:12, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

• Are you looking for the WP:WANTED list? Those are articles that have been linked to in other articles but have no yet been created. --Stabila711 (talk) 23:15, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

thank you. --Softstarrs23 (talk) 23:18, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

• @Softstarrs23: You're welcome. Just remember that just because those pages are "wanted" does not necessarily mean they are appropratie for inclusion in Wikipedia. They still need to meet notability standards and if they are about a living person they need to follow the BLP rules. --Stabila711 (talk) 23:21, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

@Softstarrs23: Another place to look is WP:RA. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 00:04, 1 September 2015 (UTC)