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December 3

Malenkov Article

There is some vandalism on the page for Georgy_Malenkov (it's right at the beginning of the article), but for some reason I don't see the text of the vandalism on the edit page. Can someone advise how I can remove this? Snap Davies 23:49, 3 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snap Davies (talk • contribs)

It was vandalism of {{OldStyleDateDY}} which is used in the article. I have fixed it. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:58, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

It's gone now, never mind : )Snap Davies 00:02, 4 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snap Davies (talk • contribs)

ceramic supplies

Is there a ceramic shop in Veedersburg? If so, where? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:801:C000:92D0:B49C:F4AE:5E0A:D8F (talk) 00:19, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

There does not appear to be. However, this search shows quite a few in Lafayette, and "Potter's Alley" is in Covington, just 7 miles away (I would call first, to make sure they have supplies, rather than just selling finished pottery). For future reference, this help desk is only for questions about Wikipedia. General knowledge questions like yours are asked at the reference desk. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:41, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Veedersburg is quite a small community, so I would doubt that they'd have much of any specialty shops. I was going to suggest that you contact the Fountain County Chamber of Commerce, but a Google search makes me question whether such an entity exists. After you try Fuhghettaboutit's suggestions, if you're still wanting to try somewhere else, perhaps you could contact the Covington-Veedersburg Public Library. Nyttend (talk) 15:11, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

New section tab

Is there any way to insert a "New section" tab into the top of a user subpage? I would like to do this for my user archives. MB298 (talk) 00:51, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Hey MB298. Try adding {{New section}} somewhere on the page and saving. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:00, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Didn't seem to work. MB298 (talk) 01:02, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Hmm. I tested it before answering your question and it did for me, but that doesn't mean squat. Hmm again. Try purging your cache and the page's cache. If that doesn't work, wait for someone else to answer, maybe with a CSS solution.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:08, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Still isn't working after trying to purge multiple times. MB298 (talk) 01:27, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

User:MB298/Miscellaneous#Draft:Panamá Oeste transcludes {{AFC submission}} which adds __NONEWSECTIONLINK__. Place {{New section}} later on the page, or remove {{AFC submission}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:53, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Done. MB298 (talk) 05:47, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

My profession is not listed

I am a moto prospector. Or some say moto miner. I search for samples where 4 wheeled vehicle can not go And hiking is to slow I can cover miles of terrain quickly taking samples to be later tested. I use a enduro or a dirt bike to access large areas quickly . I pack light and am very efficient .

I have more info thanks Dan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:5B0:230C:BBE8:E8AE:5308:49E8:DBA2 (talk) 01:49, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Dan. The first (pretty well the only) question is "Has there been substantial writing about this profession published by people unconnected with you?". Are the articles about it in major newspapers? Or books about it from reputable publishers? If the answer is yes, then the occupation is "notable" (in the special sense Wikipedia has for that word). If not, then the occupation is not (yet) notable, and no article about it, however written, will be acceptable at prsent. --ColinFine (talk) 17:08, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Please see WP:Notability page for a description of what is 'the special sense Wikipedia has for that word' which ColinFine mentioned above. --CiaPan (talk) 17:40, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Redirected reference link

Hi! How do I deal with a link that was a good reference in 2009 but now is a redirect to spam? I may end up updating it, but it supports a table that will require time to update. Should I just comment out the ref for now? — Gorthian (talk) 03:34, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Don't comment it out without replacing it. See Wikipedia:Link rot. We may be able to say more if you reveal the article and link. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:26, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

The article is Honda Civic, and it's ref #28 at the moment. (Just above the table of safety results from the NHTSA) — Gorthian (talk) 04:57, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Maybe [1] can be used instead. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:30, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

That will do nicely until I can get a more updated version. Thank you! — Gorthian (talk) 06:54, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Template limits

What is the template limit? Is it a set number of templates, or is it a set KB amount of template code, or something else? Wikipedia:Template limits explains why the limit's there, how to avoid hitting it, etc., but it doesn't say what the limit itself is. Nyttend (talk) 15:13, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

There are several independent limits related to templates (or transclusions in general), or the type of code usually found in templates and not directly in other pages. If any of the limits is reached then processing stops in some way. If somebody just says "the template limit" without clarification then they are probably thinking of the 2 MB limit for Wikipedia:Template limits#Post-expand include size. The "NewPP limit report" in the html of rendered pages, with old examples shown at Wikipedia:Template limits#How can you find out?, shows how much of the different limits was used.

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Expensive parser function count: 13/500
Lua time usage: 0.331s
Lua memory usage: 1.25 MB
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In the above example, the page used 714878 bytes out of of the allowed 2048000 bytes (2 MB) for post-expand include size, so it could have used around three times as much. Preview windows also have a "Parser profiling data" collapsible box at the bottom which shows how much the preview used. For a section preview it only shows data for the section. The html of this help desk has more details than the 2013 example:

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Cached time: 20151203152409
Cache expiry: 3600
Dynamic content: true
CPU time usage: 0.681 seconds
Real time usage: 1.058 seconds
Preprocessor visited node count: 2904/1000000
Preprocessor generated node count: 0/1500000
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Template argument size: 6677/2097152 bytes
Highest expansion depth: 14/40
Expensive parser function count: 2/500
Lua time usage: 0.067/10.000 seconds
Lua memory usage: 1.72 MB/50 MB
Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0-->

Your browser probably has a "View source" feature to see the html. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:39, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Talk page redirected when the main page isn't

Note doesn't currently redirect to Musical note. So surely Note's talk page should not redirect to Talk:Musical note? But it does. Has there been an error in some kind of 'turning off redirection' process? Please can someone create a suitable empty talk page for Note? Thanks. Open4D (talk) 15:21, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

@Open4D: The redirect originated from a page move. I have changed it. See Wikipedia:Redirect#How to edit a redirect or convert it into an article. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:45, 3 December 2015 (UTC)