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January 30

updating info about myself on an page and it is getting removed

I updated info on what I am doing these days, others have placed incorrect info on me, I want to correct it. I did so, then it was almost instantly removed. Please help me with this, others have told my so called story, but I can't? thank you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Corbin — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndreCorbin (talk • contribs) 01:53, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Unsourced, undue weight, conflict of interest, BLP violations. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:05, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello, AndreCorbin. Please excuse the unkind and rude reply by Baseball Bugs (which was accurate, but not helpful to somebody unfamiliar with how Wikipedia works). The answer is, no, you cannot tell your story: Wikipedia contains neutrally written articles, and people are strongly discouraged from contributing directly to articles about themselves or subjects closely connected with them. What you are encouraged to do is to make suggestions for improvements to the article on the article's talk page (in this case Talk:André Corbin), with independent reliable published sources for any information you want added. No unpublished information whatever should appear in the article, and information published by you or your associates (for example on your own webpage) should be included only if it is uncontroversial factual information. Please see wp:Autobiography, especially the section "Problems in an article about you". --ColinFine (talk) 10:34, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

"Unkind and rude" compared to what? The editors who reverted him without explanation? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 11:12, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

No, compared to how I would hope that beginners get treated at the Help Desk. --ColinFine (talk) 16:35, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Well, one thing he will have learned is that some established users will take gratuitous shots at other established users. That's a valuable lesson to teach a newbie. Award yourself a rusty star. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 16:54, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Another thing he will have learned is to not file complaints here about a pet article, as it could result in the article's deletion (see below). ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 00:35, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

The article contains no sources other than an interview with the subject. I have nominated the article for deletion at Articles for Deletion. (It doesn't qualify for proposed deletion because it was created before the new policy took effect. Any editor who has reliable sources that indicate notability of the subject can edit the article and mention their edits in the deletion discussion. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:06, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

That would be Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/André Corbin. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 17:10, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Battle of Segale - copyright question

Dear Sir or Madam

I looked up the battle of Segale and I noticed that I have the fitting picture for your description. My historic depiction shows the Battle of Segale, which took place in 1916. This battle was between Rasta Fari, the later Haile Selassi and King (negus) Michael. Even if it was merely an internal struggle this battle together with the battle of Adwa 1896 strengthened Ethiopias image as a defender of African independence. That is why I think this ethnic painting has the same pictural figuration in the same landscape as the tableau of the battle of Adwa, which I saw at the British Museum. (Indeed the battles happened at different places.) So both became an inspiration for Africans around the world and could bee seen as a symbol for freedom, not only for Rastas.

For public interests I therefore would like to publish this rare picture, which my grandfather Hermann Neitzel ordered from an unknown lokal artist ca. 1920 in Adis Ababa and which is still in my property. But the German Wikipedia denied publishing the picture for German legal reasons, stating that it is not yet a hundred years old and that the artist is unknown. Do you see a chance for publishing it on the American Wikipedia? I also have a full translation of the words on the painting in amharic and geeze into english, by the Adis Ababa University. kind regards, Wolfgang Neitzel — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.196.43.200 (talk) 11:16, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Copyright law is complicated, but you will find information at Wikipedia:Copyright#Governing copyright law, and at pages linked from there, such as Wikipedia:Non-U.S. copyrights. David Biddulph (talk) 11:23, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Page should be deleted

I would like the page: de:Worthington_Cylinders to be deleted as that company is now listed under Worthington Industries. It is using outdated images and that is causing a conflict with our SEO.

I am an employee in the Corporate Communications department for Worthington Industries. You can verify my employment if necessary.

Thank you in advance for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brtjmllr (talk • contribs) 16:12, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

As that article is on the German Wikipedia, you would need to ask there - each language's Wikipedia is run separately, and sets its own rules and procedures. The Help desk at the German Wikipedia is here There are several English speakers there if you feel your German is not up to it. - Arjayay (talk) 16:18, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

@Brtjmllr: More information on deletion is at de:Wikipedia:Löschregeln. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:41, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Please note that Wikipedia does not care about SEO, see WP:SEO for guidance. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:54, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

los coches rancho (sunol)

Article: Rancho Los Coches (Sunol) GermanJoe (talk) 00:24, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

I joined Wikipedia to help make a couple of corrections to the Wiki listing for the Los Coches Rancho (Sunol).

Two of the corrections need to be made to the heading paragraph and I do not see a link for those corrections.

Roberto Balermino is the corrected spelling of the name that appears; the individual was named for an important saint.

And the second correction removes the name of the community of Burbank and replaces it with the name Willow Glen.

The Roberto Adobe & Sunol House is located on Lincoln Avenue adjacent to the old incorporated town of Willow Glen.

Burbank is a district in the unincorporated area of Santa Clara County. It is surrounded by the City of San Jose.

How can I make these changes?

April Halberstadt — Preceding unsigned comment added by AprilHope (talk • contribs) 16:37, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello @AprilHope:, thank you for providing this information. However, a brief Internet search reveals several different spellings for the name and different descriptions of the exact location (near Burbank is a bit vague, but seems to be correct). In such a case the article needs an authoritative, reliable source for the changed information (WP:RS and WP:V offer more details on this policy). You can edit the first section (the "lead" section) clicking "Edit source" on the article - this opens the complete article for editing. If you feel uncomfortable editing yourself, you can also add suggestions to the article's talkpage: move to Talk:Rancho Los Coches (Sunol), click "New section" and add a header and your suggested change (disclaimer: low-traffic articles with few viewers will usually need some time to get updated). GermanJoe (talk) 00:24, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Need Help Adding Information

Hi, I'm trying to add myself to people from Cedar Rapids, Iowa who have done accomplishments.

Name: Joel Sadilek - Resident 1969 to 1987. Film Producer, Writer, Director & Musician. Reference: www.curiousjoel.com Reference: www.imdb.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrsadilek (talk • contribs) 18:48, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

@Jrsadilek: When you edit Cedar Rapids, Iowa#Notable people you see this:

"NOTICE * * * NOTICE * * * NOTICE * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *NOTICE * * * NOTICE * * * NOTICE

Only people who already have a Wikipedia article may appear here as Notable people. This establishes notability.

All others will be deleted without further explanation."

Joel Sadilek is a red link so you have no Wikipedia article. See Wikipedia:Notability (people) for the requirements, and see Wikipedia:Autobiography if you think about writing it yourself. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:51, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Category question

I just came across a category, Category:LGBT people from Guyana, which was entirely empty — but it has existed since 2006, and was not empty the last time I reviewed the contents of Category:LGBT people by nationality. However, because the "related changes" link only tracks changes to articles that are currently in the category, it offers no assistance in tracking down pages that have been removed from the category, and the external "category watchlist" tool only tracks new changes going forward from the time you create a searchlist — but in this instance I need to somehow determine what was previously in the category, so that I can evaluate whether its emptying was appropriate or not. Can anybody advise whether there's any way to determine what pages used to be in the category? Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 21:19, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

@Bearcat: I don't know any clever way of doing this. But I have database dumps from 2014-10-08, 2014-12-08 and 2015-01-12, so I could search for the text "Category:LGBT people from Guyana" to see which articles were in the category on those dates. Would that be any use? -- John of Reading (talk) 21:48, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Worth a shot, if you're able — it sounds like probably the only chance I've got here. Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 21:59, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

@Bearcat: The scan of the 2014-10-08 dump found just one article, which was removed from the category a few days later. The later scans found nothing. -- John of Reading (talk) 22:36, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:LGBT_people_from_Guyana at the Wayback Machine only has a 2006 version. David McAlmont was also the only page back then. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:09, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, guys. It looks like his removal from the category actually was appropriate, as the article actually fails to adequately source that he's LGBT. Or actually from Guyana, for that matter; the only relevance to Guyana that has ever been present in the article was the assertion, also unsourced, that he's of Guyanese ancestry, not that he's actually personally from the country. So I'll look into whether those facts are properly sourceable, and recreate the category if it's justifiable. Thanks again, no further action needed here. Bearcat (talk) 23:58, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

The White people page is semi-protected; Yet completely discriminatory against Whites.

Re: White people ―Mandruss ☎ 23:04, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

I know the concerns of Whites these days are shoved aside for the "more oppressed" demographics, but this shouldn't allow racial biased to be so publicly advertised. The page states segregation, oppression, eugenics, and marginalization is a trait only for white people, like it wasn't practiced by the Persians, Ottoman Empire, Byzantine empire, Khazaria, or Mongolians.

This is the more far left position one could take on a subject as sensitive like race, and you do not see other pages catering so far against the demographic of which the article is based on. I'm very offended, and I dont think the children who research this page to find ou about their heritage, deserve to be guilt tripped for being born white, when they are the descendants of the western society which fueled modern innovation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doctirderp (talk • contribs) 21:53, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protection prevents edits by users who are not autoconfirmed. Experience has shown that such users are far more likely to be one of the following:

• Completely clueless about correct editing process, guidelines that are designed to facilitate relative peace among editors who disagree. Wikipedia also has policies and guidelines that govern article content. There are introductory help pages to assist a new user with understanding all of that, but these users have not bothered to read any of them. They are only here to get their view of "truth" into Wikipedia articles, and edit warring is the only way they know how to do it. Edit warring is very counterproductive and wastes a lot of time for the volunteers who try to play by the rules.
• People who have heard that Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and wish to investigate that claim (Look Mom, I edited Wikipedia!), again without spending any time learning how to do it correctly.
• People who just want to damage an article, for any of a number of reasons.

Semi-protection has absolutely nothing to do with suppressing any particular viewpoints. I encourage you to become autoconfirmed, learn more about Wikipedia editing, and join the team. Help desk is here to help you with that (hence the name), and it is designed more for that purpose than for handling complaints about Wikipedia. ―Mandruss ☎ 22:52, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

User:Doctirderp - It isn't clear what you are trying to say is wrong with the article. I can see that your first language isn't English. However, all that I can see is that you are displeased with the article, but do not know what changes you would like made in the article. It is more helpful to explain how you would like an article improved than just to complain about it. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:13, 30 January 2015 (UTC)