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June 1

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input

I added the following information to the Leonard Covello entry as it would be incomplete if the effort to establish better racial harmony by Dr. Leonard Covello is not included. During this period of racial disharmony, he also had Nat King Cole participate with his trio by performing several songs, one of which was Straighten Up and Fly Right. I was a student at Benjamin Franklin High School and graduated in June 1948. Please include the addition as it would further show that Dr. Covello reached out to all ethnic groups. If additional information is required, please let me know. thanks, Eric Quirindongo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quirineric (talk • contribs) 00:16, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Quirineric It appears that in this edit you actually added only an empty pair of <ref></ref> tags, with the content you had intended to insert in the edit summery but never added to the article. I suggest you read REferencin for Beginners to learn how to use ref tags, adn you may want to practivce edits in your sandbox a bit. DES ^(talk) 01:27, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Reporting edit warring

There are two editors who are constantly reverting one another. They may have violated 3RR, I'm not sure. They have been doing this across a number of articles. I'd like an admin to step in and put a stop to it but I'm unsure on where to start. I was thinking of going through WP:ANEW but it is pretty much set up for just reporting one user. Which I don't understand since a war needs two combatants but I digress. And going in to start a discussion there, I see that the form to fill out is geared towards a war over just one article.

So, is that the right place? Should I just tweak the form to include info on both editors and as many articles as I think are necessary (they've been fighting over a number of them)? Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 00:38, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Dismas, I would advise filing two reports there, one for each editor, and including a note in each mentioning the other, although the diffs will pretty much show that anyway. DES ^(talk) 01:06, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Done! Dismas|^(talk) 04:14, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

The Logo for this organization has changed.

I have the new logo to input, along the much needed additions to the written area. I work with our Web committee but do not know how to change out this logo for the current one! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edpegme (talk • contribs) 00:43, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

@Edpegme: As someone with a conflict of interest, you and the rest of the people in the company, should avoid directly editing the article. Use the article talk page to make suggestions. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:04, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

@Edpegme: I have a few concerns about what you have asked here:

First, you didn't mention which organization you're referring to. And your only edit has been asking the question above, so I can't check your other contributions to maybe see which article you're talking about. So, what org are you referring to?

Second, it sounds like you work for the org that you are trying to edit the article of. That is a clear conflict of interest. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not an advertising or marketing platform. People who edit the articles about their place of work often have a hard time being objective and neutral about their employer. So, we don't suggest you directly edit the article. Instead, you are advised to place any corrections or suggestions on the talk page of the article in question. Please see WP:COI for more on our conflict of interest policy.

Third, you mentioned that you work with your "web committee". User accounts are not to be shared amongst a group of people. See WP:SHAREDACCOUNT.

And lastly, I along with other editors reading this board would be happy to help replace the logo of the org to a current one but again, we'd need to know where to find the new logo and what the article in question is. Dismas|^(talk) 01:05, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Making uncontrovesial factual updates, such as changes in company oifficers or HQ or name or logo, is one of the things that people with a COI are allowed, even encouraged to do. (edit conflict)See Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest#Photographs_and_media_files and Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest#Non-controversial_edits.

If an editor displays the current logo, clicks "More details" and scolls doewn to the file history section, there will be a link marked "Upload a new version of this file" which will allow an updated logo to be uploaded. DES ^(talk) 01:11, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Point taken. Though the "much needed additions to the written area" were also mentioned. Dismas|^(talk) 01:14, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

True, those might be a more serious concern. DES ^(talk) 01:19, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Edpegme's account is not autoconfirmed so it doesn't have the link "Upload a new version of this file". An upload request can be made at Wikipedia:Files for upload, but if Edpegme just said which organization it is and possibly where the new logo is then somebody here might upload it. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:22, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Rakesh Varre

HI I m trying to put telugu actor Rakesh Varre's page in Wikipedia and I have been told that a proof in paper or magazine should be updated. I have one where his interview was put up. Please check and tell me if it works to put his page in Wikipedia. Thanks http://jhpublicschool.com/wp-content/hillside/hill-side-news-10-102014.pdf .... its on page 13. Veena Uppalapati (talk) 05:54, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

The criteria for a stand alone article are here for the basic version and here for the full version. An interview in a school newspaper doesn't cut it. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 06:06, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

It works for a source of information but doesn't do much for notability. It looks like that is a newsletter put out by a school that he attended, right? That's not a major publication. It would be better if he were interviewed in a national magazine. Dismas|^(talk) 06:07, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Print article is including extraneous stuff

"Print page" is malfunctioning - it is including the navigation menu and other non-article content - even my username! This behaviour is new, though it has been quite a long time since I last printed an article. I'm using Chrome on Windows7 - both fully updated. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:00, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

@Dodger67: I recommend WP:VPT for things of a clearly technical nature, especially involving malfunctions. But someone might happen along with your answer. ―Mandruss ☎ 08:07, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Have you tried Help:Printable#Printable version? PrimeHunter (talk) 08:43, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, heading over to VPT now, The help page didn't cover the situation, I believe it is in fact a malfunction as this has not happened before using the same browser on the same PC. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:03, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Pakistan- peaceful Nation

Hi! i just recently wrote the article about Pakistan. can u help me that what should i do after writing the article? and how should i get ratings on it?

Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shayan faiz (talk • contribs) 09:57, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm going to reply at your talkpage, basically all the content is already in Pakistan and/or Muhammad Ali Jinnah. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:11, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Rosemary Bailey Rosemary A. Bailey - disambiguation page - remove redirect

Hello, I have been working on the writer Rosemary Bailey's page Rosemary Bailey (author) which has now been accepted, but I have noticed that there is another wikipedia page for Rosemary A. Bailey, Rosemary A. Bailey who is a statistician, and that if you search for Rosemary Bailey within wikipedia it automatically redirects to Rosemary A. Bailey's page. I think there should be a disambiguation page with the two Rosemary Baileys so that this does not happen, or some other solution? Also there should not be a redirect from Rosemary Bailey to Rosemary A. Bailey but I do not know how to remove the redirect, nor do I know how to make a disambiguation page. I have looked it up but am at a loss how to do it. I would really appreciate it if someone could help sort this problem out. Many thanks!Berlin55678 (talk) 09:58, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

 Fixed Rosemary Bailey is now a disambiguation page. I replaced the redirect from Rosemary Bailey to Rosemary A. Bailey with a disambiguation page. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:09, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

With only two subjects with a same name, wouldn't hatnotes have worked just as well?--ukexpat (talk) 13:57, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

@Ukexpat: In my opinion no, since it wouldn't have solved the issue of what Rosemary Bailey links to, which was what one of the complaints was. There's no evidence that either of them is definitely the primary topic, so I figured this was easier/better. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:01, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough.--ukexpat (talk) 17:10, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

you have an error on one of your subject pages

The page when you research Libby, Montana is wrong. It shows the location of Libby in mid west Washington, which obviously wrong. Libby is located in NW Montana 1.5 hours from the Canadian Border and 45 mins from the Idaho Border. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.135.89.117 (talk) 11:04, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Are you sure? The map at Libby, Montana looks correct to me. It's at File:Lincoln County Montana Incorporated and Unincorporated areas Libby Highlighted.svg for anyone else to look at, but it looks to be entirely correct based on your description and my checking with Google Maps. Are you seeing the information in another article? --Jayron32 11:09, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Concur with Jayron32. The big white area in the map represents Lincoln County, MT, in case you're mistaking that for Washington state. ―Mandruss ☎ 11:14, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia entry for Dorothy Liggett Pelanda

I am Todd Thatcher and work as Senior Legislative Aide for State Representative Dorothy Pelanda. The Wiki entry lists her as "Dorothy Liggett Pelanda" and she does not go by that name - just Dorothy Pelanda. I have made the edit in the body of her Wiki entry, but it does not allow me to change the main title of the page from Dorothy Liggett Pelanda to Dorothy Pelanda. At her request, we would ask that the change may be made. Thank you.

Todd Thatcher Senior Legislative Aide to Representative Pelanda (614) 466-8147 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toddmthatcher (talk • contribs) 15:01, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

 Fixed New users cannot move pages, which is what you needed to do- your account needs to be 4 days old, and have 10 edits, in order to do it. The article is now at Dorothy Pelanda. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:08, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Can I find edits with the same or similar editsummaries that were done by a different IP/username?

I was looking at this page. This person uses an editsummary that contains the words: "remove unsourced list of samples per". Can I find (all) edits that have the same (or similar) editsummaries, even if they were made by a different IP/username? If so, how? Modified combined obstacle overlay (talk) 16:22, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

User Edit Summary Search --Moxy (talk) 16:27, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

@Moxy: Thank you, I tried that, but it seems that it only works for one ip/user. And it seems to be intended for cases where you already know the ip/username. I am hoping to find the other ip's/usernames that were used by this person. Maybe I am doing something wrong? Modified combined obstacle overlay (talk) 16:30, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Incorrect information regarding Planting Fields Arburieum in Oyster Bay New York

As a former student of the State University of New York, I can say specifically the information presented by Wikipedia regarding the use of the facility is not correct or at least not thorough.

The Coe estate continued to be used under the direction of the State University of New York for the establishment of another the College, College at Old Westbury under the University system.The Planing Fields Campus as it was known use the facility from 1968 thru 1972 at which time they transitioned to the Clark Estate in Old Westbury on Old Country Road.

SUNY College at Old Westbury has become a significant part of the New York State University System which now promotes and trains thousands that have and continue to make a difference within American society today.

It would worth noting correctly the existence, use and contributions of SUNY College at Old Westbury to the life of such a wonderful and cherished facility as the Coe estate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.243.254.13 (talk) 17:13, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Feel free to correct the erroneous information. Just make sure you cite a reliable source. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 17:17, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

(This is about Planting Fields Arboretum State Historic Park.) Maproom (talk) 17:29, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

My Wikipedia page says "this page has issues"

It describes my page as an orphan but I am on other pages like the 500 questions wiki — Preceding unsigned comment added by Corbblah (talk • contribs) 17:45, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Do you mean our article Jonathan Corbblah, which is about you but not owned by you? I recommend reading our guidelines on editing with a conflict of interest. Ian.thomson (talk) 17:50, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

I don't see an orphan tag on the article or any other tags. I do see, as did User:Ian.thomson, that you edited the article that is about yourself, which is strongly discouraged. Read the conflict of interest guidelines and the guideline against autobiographies (which applies to editing one's own biography as well as to writing an autobiography). Robert McClenon (talk) 18:11, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Notify me in some way if someone changes my user page

Out of interest, I'd like to know if someone else changes my userpage - but there isn't an easy way to know about this that I know of. How can I get some notification if someone tries to edit my user page? Cheers c: ~NottNott ( ✉ -☻) 18:03, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

@NottNott: I just made a test edit to your user page, then reverted it. Did you not get a notification? ―Mandruss ☎ 18:05, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

(Edit Conflict) It should be on your watchlist. If not, add it. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 18:06, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

I know its not what you asked, but trying to read into your question, we can do an indef semi-protection on your user page if you would like one. To answer your original question, there isn't a good way to get special notifications on changes to any particular page, there is just the all or nothing option to get emails when anything on your watchlist is edited. Monty₈₄₅ 18:08, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Oh no, I'm not actively being vandalised - it's just a detailed customisation I wanted. It's on my watchlist. I was wondering if there was some script I could use, but it appears this isn't the case. Thanks for the help :) ~NottNott ( ✉ -☻) 18:11, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Although come to think of it, there aren't any drawbacks to indef semi-protection on my page. I'd be thankful if I could have this, thanks. ~NottNott ( ✉ -☻) 18:13, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Protected as requested. It may be possible to code something in javascript to highlight particular pages on your watchlist, but AFAIK there isn't one out there that has already been made. Monty₈₄₅ 18:19, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

@NottNott: Actually, I stand corrected, check out Wikipedia:Customizing_watchlists#Highlight specific pages. Monty₈₄₅ 18:21, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

@Monty845: Thanks, there's tracking vandalism as a cure and protecting the page as a prevention. This is more than what I asked for, so thanks a lot! c: ~NottNott ( ✉ -☻) 18:36, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Article Feedback Tool

Is the Article Feedback Tool still being used somewhere (maybe on another project or language)? Modified combined obstacle overlay (talk) 18:11, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Modified combined obstacle overlay, the tool was removed everywhere. See this --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:53, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you NeilN! Modified combined obstacle overlay (talk) 20:52, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

The new CC-By-SA 4.0 and material from PLoS journals copied into Wikipedia

I haven't seen an issue with this, but for my own reference I am asking here. The PLoS journals have adopted the new version 4.0 of the Creative Commons licenses. The documentation for the template {{CC-notice}} says in capital letters: CC-By-SA 4.0 IS NOT A COMPATIBLE LICENSE as well as in red warning letters at the bottom of the page. (This doesn't seem to be documented much elsewhere.) However this was a very recent change at PLoS. Does that mean older material can be copied in, since it was put there before the license change and the license is supposedly irrevocable? I am assuming that any material copied in here before the change, with the proper attribution, can stay. StarryGrandma (talk) 19:40, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

I agree that this statement cc-by-sa 4.0 is not a compatible license confuses the issue and should be made clearer. “According to the WMF legal team, CC BY-SA 4.0 is not backwards compatible with CC BY-SA 3.0. Therefore, mixing text licences under 3.0 and 4.0 would be problematic, however files uploaded under this licence are fine.” See:Wikipedia:COMPLIC#cite_note-2. So adding old text is OK and so is adding text under the new licence. So I 'think' it means don't consider CC BY-SA 4.0 & CC BY-SA 3.0 to be interchangeable. I would value some legal eagle's input on this this, to clarify maters (both here and on the Template:CC-notice page).--Aspro (talk) 21:49, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Our sister project has a bit about this on its discussion (talk) page. Wikimedia Commons: Template:Cc-by-sa-4.0--Aspro (talk) 22:09, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

It seems that we cannot add material licensed using 4.0. Trying to use {{CC-notice}} for material with a 4.0 license generates:  This article incorporates text by John, Ringo, George and Paul available under the CC BY-SA 4.0 license.

The English Wikipedia is staying with 3.0 for now. I found more information in the WikiMania 2014 talk by LuisVilla here and also in his response during a discussion of the change to 4.0 here. StarryGrandma (talk) 22:48, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

On this day...

Is there a way of suggesting the inclusion of an item on the On this day... section of the WP Main Page? The 75th anniversary of the sinking of RMS Lancastria is on 17 June and I would like to make sure that it is not overlooked, since the event is little known, even in the UK. Alansplodge (talk) 20:10, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Selected_anniversaries#How to make suggestions for listings ―Mandruss ☎ 20:14, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Fantastic, thank you. Alansplodge (talk) 21:13, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

bad link that leads to a retail site

When researching USB devices I found three external links that lead to a retail website that did not sell books but clothing and accesories. see below http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB Further reading[edit] Axelson, Jan (1 September 2006). USB Mass Storage: Designing and Programming Devices and Embedded Hosts (1st ed.). Lakeview Research. ISBN 978-1-931-44804-8. 287 pp. ——— (1 December 2007). Serial Port Complete: COM Ports, USB Virtual COM Ports, and Ports for Embedded Systems (2nd ed.). Lakeview Research. ISBN 978-1-931-44806-2. 380 pp. ——— (2009). USB Complete: The Developer's Guide (4th ed.). Lakeview Research. ISBN 978-1-931-44808-6. 506 pp. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.60.118.58 (talk) 21:21, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Done - external links removed (ISBNs are available for interested readers). Thanks for pointing this out. GermanJoe (talk) 21:31, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Smith & Wesson No. 3 pistol corrections

Hi I have a correction for the Wikipedia posting of the Smith & Wesson No.3 pistol. In this post it mentions "...S&W nearly went bankrupt as a result of their Russian Contract production." In reality according to the book "Guns for the Tsar" Joesph Bradley Pages 115-116: " According to Jinks, the Russian contract "meant the world" to Smith and Wesson. it improved American sales, got Smith and Wesson out of the financial difficulties of the late 1860s, and established the company as a major producer in Europe and around the world."

Jinks is Roy jinks the Smith & Wesson historian for more information you need to contact him at S&W.

I hope this is of some use. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.239.79.110 (talk) 21:34, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello. The place to discuss this is on the talk page of the article; or (since you have a source) you could edit the article yourself (though citing sources properly is a little intricate). --ColinFine (talk) 22:57, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Updating the tz database to fix articles

Articles such as CST6CDT are poorly broken because it can't refer to the tz database at List_of_tz_database_time_zones. I have no idea about how to correct the database (or whether I should) to ensure articles such as CST6CDT are not broken. Could someone refer me to further advice? ~NottNott ( ✉ -☻) 23:16, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I'm going to refer to WP:TECHPUMP. This was probably the wrong place to post this - but I hope someone over there will be able to help out. ~NottNott ( ✉ -☻) 23:22, 1 June 2015 (UTC)