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November 17

restoring deleted file

Hi

I believe the file https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Attor_Krishna_Pisharody.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1 was deleted inappropriately. What is the due process to appeal.

Thanks JR — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayraghavan (talk • contribs) 01:37, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

@Jayraghavan: A first step would be to discuss the deletion with the deleting admin on their talk page, User talk:Explicit. A second step might be to consider Wikipedia:Deletion review. —teb728 t c 03:05, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

The deleting comment expressed a concern about non-free content. If you took the image yourself, then you can release it under a proper copyleft. If the image is not one that you took yourself, you need to discuss whether any of the rules for the use of non-free content apply. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:21, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

From User talk:Jayraghavan I think that JR's position is that the photo is from a family archive and never copyrighted. (Of course that is not the way that copyright law works.) —teb728 t c 05:26, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Jess Weixler

Please fix the reference citation error on Jess Weixler Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.14.43.81 (talk) 05:39, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

 Done NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:12, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

About Pilotless Aircraft

On April 22 2015 Ruchit Kumar Regmi of Nepal has been awarded patent from US Patent and Trade Mark Office(USPTO) to his invention titled Pilotless Aircraft for commercial and military use also known as Autonomous aircraft/ Automated aircraft. This US patented aircraft is neither remotely operated aircraft nor operated by ground or virtual pilot like that of prior art UAV(drones) are being piloted rather his aircraft is fully autonomous/automated aircraft which does not require any pilot neither on aboard pilot nor ground(virtual) pilot, his aircraft is fully unpiloted aircraft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.199.138.86 (talk) 06:15, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

So what is your question about using or editing Wikipedia? —teb728 t c 06:31, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Interesting fact. Thank you for the heads up. I'm looking around now for Wikipedia's coverage of this, and also on the Internet for the topic's notability. Similar inventions are covered in Unmanned aerial vehicle. The Transhumanist 18:02, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I've looked around, there does appear to be such a patent, but the "invention" itself does not appear to be notable. As far as I can tell, a patent was granted based on documentation for an aircraft piloted via human emotion, without an actual prototype. So, it is not an actual invention as of yet. The Transhumanist 18:16, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Messages

I received a message notification on my E-Mail. I have viewed the message and want to answer it. However I`ve no idea ast how I can do this. --Ratnadeep Sircar (talk) 13:16, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

If you are wanting to reply to the editor who posted a message on your user talk page, he/she didn't sign it but I looked in the page history and added a signature on their behalf. You could reply there on your own user talk page, and hope that the editor might see your reply, and/or you could put a message on the IP's talk page (click the talk link in the signature in the message on your page to create that page, as there isn't anything on there yet). Unfortunately there's no guarantee that the IP would see it. If you now realize, having read the IP's message, that you were confused in your message at Talk:Potato paradox#Paradox or false assumption, a neurological insult., you can edit that section and add a reply to say that you now understand. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:16, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Pilotless aircraft(US Patent no.8702033 Nepal Patent no. 73/071) is Pilotless aircraft but not emotionally operated aircraft. To know the scope of this invention,you can study US patent office's examiner's view that If you study non-final rejection dated Aug 31,2017, Jan11,2018 and final rejection mail date Jun 05,2018 of Arnold’s US Patent application number: US 15/041,964 titled “Systems and methods for weather detection and avoidance”(Herein after Arnold’s application) that can be found at the attachment of “Image File Wrapper” under “Public PAIR” of official website of USPTO (www.uspto.gov) mainly over US and Nepal patented invention “US Patent number 8702033 B2 (Herein after invention)” then you can find that the scope, coverage rights of invention will not be limited only on claim language(Claim 1 to 12 of invention) but the rights can be on content of abstract, drawings and specification of invention (please study Page 3 to 7 of non-final rejection dated 08/31/2017(Aug 31,2017) and 01/11/2018(Jan 11,2018), and Page 3 to 9 of final rejection mail date 06/05/2018(Jun 5,2018) of Arnold’s application). In the same way invention will have the scope and right on apparatus comprising at least one processor and at least one memory including computer program instructions (please study Examiner’s view of no. 12 of Page 5 of non-final rejection dated 08/31/2017, no.11 of page 5 of non-final rejection dated 01/11/2018, no.12 of page 6 of final rejection mail date 06/05/2018 on Arnold’s application examination mainly over invention).The scope and right of invention will not be limited only on Systems and methods for weather detection and avoidance rather in the same way as the examiner’s view on Arnold’s application, the similar way can be implied on automated systems and subsystems of aircraft, automated weather inclement avoidance , automated sense and avoidance systems, flight path following and other automated systems and subsystems, computer systems for pilotless operations, computer systems for manned and unmanned, and optionally piloted systems and subsystems etc; these are only few examples to name.

Joshua Travagli soccer player

> Hello sir's,
>
> I see this message at the top of the wikipedia page and I'm sorry but we're
> not agree:
>
> This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's
> deletion policy.
> Please share your thoughts on the matter at this article's entry on the
> Articles for deletion page.
> Feel free to edit the article, but the article must not be blanked, and this
> notice must not be removed, until the discussion is closed. For more
> information, particularly on merging or moving the article during the
> discussion, read the guide to deletion.
>
> I'm really surprise because people are doing "pages" for full teams like
> RedBull II .
>
> such as : Red Bull II ( second team ) never have more then few lines on
> newspapers or article ..and they do have the full detail made by someone for
> them ( you can check them out ) .
>
> this is the guy:
>
> '''Elopez76'''
>
> I'm really disappointed, I'm trying to build something here if I have few
> mistake I would like to be guide not been "showed down". 

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Massimot1 (talk • contribs) 16:13, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

All articles in the English=language wikipedia must be properly referenced. At the moment neither Joshua Travagli nor New York Red Bulls II meet this requirement. Someone has noticed this about the Travagli article, and has quite rightly nominated it for deletion. Now that you've brought our attention to the Red Bulls article, that will probably go the same way. If enough independent, reliable sources can be found and added to the articles, they won't be deleted. Rojomoke (talk) 16:37, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

The place to make your comment is not here, but at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joshua Travagli, which is linked from the notice at the top of the article. But before you try to comment, make suire that you understand WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:42, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

John W. Houghtaling II

John W. Houghtaling II is one of our clients. He asked me to update his Wikipedia page with new text and citations.

I inserted the new text and added about 140 footnote citations using <ref> </ref> at the end of paragraphs. A few days after I updated everything, there are only 21 citations remaining. I want to know why most of the citations were removed and a few remain if I cited them all the same way?

John W. Houghtaling II

76.165.217.11 (talk) 17:06, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

In a number of places you had given 30 references for a short paragraph. This is grossly excessive. You will see the removal explained in an edit summary in the article history. There were also a number of broken references, which you would have seen if you looked at your version and at the subsequent edit summaries. I see that you say you are editing on behalf of a client, so you need to read Wikipedia's policies on paid editors and WP:conflict of interest. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:17, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict)As a paid editor, it would be better if you created an account and declared your interest. You need to be very careful to avoid adding any promotional material, and to avoid deleting any text just because John W. Houghtaling II doesn't like it. Perhaps the person who removed the repetitive references can explain, but they did look as if they were applied with a splurge gun. Dbfirs 17:24, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Paid editors are required to disclose their COI.--ukexpat (talk) 19:07, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes, sorry, the guideline is:

Editors who are being paid for their contributions should place the {{connected contributor (paid)}} template at the top of affected talk pages. Please fill it in as follows:

{{Connected contributor (paid)|User1=Username of the paid editor|U1-employer=Name of person/organization that is paying for the edits|U1-client= Name of client|U1-otherlinks=Insert relevant affiliations, disclosures, article drafts or diffs showing paid contributions to articles.}}.

• The employer is whoever is paying for the edits.
• The client is on whose behalf the payment is made.
• Otherlinks includes any other affiliation (role or relationship) that might be relevant. Dbfirs 21:37, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Expression error: Unexpected

I just edited the Smilodon page, and it seems it completely exploded (nonsense text and a line going down the entire page). Here's the edit:[1] I could of course just undo my edit, but I think the issue has to be looked into, so it doesn't happen again. FunkMonk (talk) 17:31, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

@FunkMonk: Pretty sure it wasn't you. many of the big cat pages are showing the same error Tiger , Machairodontinae. Its likely an edit to the infobox template or a nav box or some other transcluded item. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:39, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict) If you look at versions of the article before your edit you'll see the same problem. I suspect that someone may either have changed a relevant template, or some Wikimedia software. I can't spot anything relevant in the first few templates on the page, but sometimes the nesting hides problems. Hopefully someone else can spot the cause, or someone will report other pages similarly affected which might help to narrow it down. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:40, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes, seems to be the fossil range template that is broken:[2] FunkMonk (talk) 17:41, 17 November 2015 (UTC)] FunkMonk (talk) 17:41, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Seems to have been fixed, or just turned off. Where? FunkMonk (talk) 17:47, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

I suspect that the problem was this edit to {{Period start}}. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:49, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I'm the one who did that edit - or rather, Twinkle did it for me. It was set with the inline parameter, so it ought to work. Actually, I can't see a difference in the appearance. What interface are you using? RockMagnetist(talk) 18:14, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Problem apparently corrected by this edit, putting the extra stuff inside the <noinclude> tags, which I suspected would be the cure. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:18, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

I've done a similar change to {{Geologic Ages Inline}}, so an expert may wish to check that one. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:22, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for the disruption. The tag is supposed to give people fair notice that the template is being discussed, and it won't do that very effectively if it is only on the template page itself. It is supposed to add an inline notice. I'll try a few tests in the sandbox and see what I get. RockMagnetist(talk) 18:25, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

@David Biddulph: is this the sort of problem you were seeing? RockMagnetist(talk) 18:43, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes, the "Expression error: Unexpected <" was certainly one symptom. The problems varied from page to page. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:47, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

O.k., I have started a discussion at Template talk:Tfm/dated. RockMagnetist(talk) 18:54, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Like the Smilidon page, the top of the Ecdysozoa page exploded into nonsense and has a line running down. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zelda120! (talk • contribs) 18:02, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Ecdysozoa looks OK to me. RJFJR (talk) 19:15, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

There has been a quick fix (see above). I am folding this into the other section to reduce confusion. RockMagnetist(talk) 19:32, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Omnichord - Notable users

Hi,

you forgot in your list of notable users of the Omnichord the German comedian C. Heiland.

He is a famous German comedian and use in every show the Omnichord, and he plays it very good.

I checked other notable users of the Omnichord and they are not near to the quality how he plays it.

To you, Wikipedia-Team, you do a great job for mankind. I classify your work at a level of the first moon landing and think that Wikipedia is the most important webpage in the world!

nice greetings from Bangkok Franky My world famous snoopy on Facebook: ScoobeedoCool — Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.96.240.74 (talk) 18:03, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your interest in Wikipedia! Do you have an reliably published sources like newspapers or professional magazines that verify the content? If so YOU can make the updates! That's what Wikis are good for. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:22, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Picture-file moving to Commons

Hi, I would like to use the following picture File:Oliver Theatre Royal Bill Board.JPG from the article Oliver! in another language-version of Wikipedia. Therefore it should be in Wikimedia-Commons. It is also flagged to be moved, but I'm waiting for months and don't know, how to do it myself. Is there any user, who could move it to commons? --79.252.223.11 (talk) 20:24, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

I contacted ExpressingYourself‎ who uploaded the photo. Maybe this person would know what to do, but I odn't.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:33, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Why is there a "duplicate reference name" error?

Why does 7-Zip yield an error regarding the reference named "7zipHistory"? It looks to me like it's defined exactly once and then reused exactly once in the source. OneGyT (talk) 20:37, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

But, if you look at the reference and click next to the reference, there are *three* entries. What is happening is that the reference in Release field in the infobox reference is being shown *twice* in the Infobox due to the methodology of the creation of the Stable Release and Preview Release dates. I don't understand the template code well enough to figure out how things are being transformed.Naraht (talk) 20:54, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

The other definition is inside {{Latest stable software release/7-Zip}}. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:56, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Ah, thought it was splitting it/duplicating in some bizarre way with the infobox.Naraht (talk) 21:13, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

That explains it! I've removed the definition from the article, so that they now pull from the template. Was this the proper course of action? OneGyT (talk) 00:29, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Beats me. This article may not be the only one that uses that infobox and template concept.Naraht (talk) 09:46, 18 November 2015 (UTC)