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October 11

Having trouble with HTML tags ref vs. cite

Kai Ryssdal In the last version of Wikipedia it states that "Kai Ryssdal is from Briarcliff Manor, NY." Yet according to his own Twitter feed he was born in Uranium City, Saskatchewan, Canada. https://twitter.com/kairyssdal/status/240279859421671424

I have bee trying to make the edit but am having trouble with the HTML tags (<ref> vs. {{cite), etc.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:80ae:1100:f844:6516:8f23:8c71 (talk) 01:22, 11 October 2015‎ (UTC)

• Fixed. You had /ref instead of the full </ref> so the ref was never closed. --Stabila711 (talk) 01:52, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
• I just read the talk page of the article. According to an OTRS tag there was an issue that was responded to via email. Issues identified are: Wasn't born in Uranium City, Saskatchewan, parents names aren't Eric and Sylvia, and didn't grow up in Atlanta. As such, I have changed the information back. --Stabila711 (talk) 01:59, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Edit Request

Hello! I am Renee Lange, the mother of Alex Lange. In reading his Wikipedia page, I note a couple of items that are not correct and would like for you to make these corrections, please.

1. He was born Oct. 2, 1995....not 1996 2. He NEVER committed to the University of Arkansas, so please remove this.

Here is the address where the information can be found:

Alex Lange

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Renee Lange — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.28.22.192 (talk) 01:56, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

• According to the sources we have his birth year is 1996. Unfortunately, we cannot confirm your identity since this is the Internet and anyone can say anything about themselves. If you want you can email the OTRS team with proof of your identity. They can verify that you are who you say you are and can handle it from there. Until then, we have to follow what the sources tell us. As to the University of Arkansas, we also have a souce that says that he originally committed to that college here. --Stabila711 (talk) 02:32, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Someone has been making unsourced edits to the article. I think this could be the OP. @Smiles5678: Perhaps you should read the discussion here. The Average Wikipedian (talk) 14:43, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

How to find the edits that editor X has done on page Y

With major articles and major editors, with thousands of edits, it's not practical to plow through page after page of History or Contributions. I can't figure it out or find it by searching the help files. I posted this question in Teahouse and it has so far not received a substantive answer.

With all the tools that have been created, and all the cases in which an editor is investigated for this or the other thing, I cannot believe that there is no simple query to ascertain this. Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 04:55, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

If you go to the page in question, and click on "page information", there's a link to the "edits by user" tool at the bottom. Unfortunately it appears to be down at the moment. Rwessel (talk) 05:02, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

That was my experience too. I hope you will report it to whoever could fix it. I have not the least idea who that might be. deisenbe (talk) 05:10, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

The error message mentions that it's maintained by wikitech:User:Σ, someone already posted a message to that effect on their talk/discussion page (about 36 hours ago). Rwessel (talk) 05:19, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Description in Google Search for Felix Manalo Movie

i cannot find a way to edit the description of the Felix Manalo movie as shown in Google search results. Someone mischievously wrote the following which is a direct misinformation to Wikipedia's readers: "Felix Manalo is a fictional-comedy film dramatizing the thug life of Felix Ysagun Manalo, the first Executive Minister of the Iglesia Ni Cristo (INC; English: Church ..." The Felix Manalo movie is not fictional nor is it a comedy film. It is based on truth & documented facts. It is a story of a man who searched for the true religion, a man who has been persecuted all his life by his detractors by disseminating lies and rumors but never had the nerve to file a case so hiw can this man be called a thug? Shame on the person who wrote those lines who is being controlled by his own jealousy! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Watchman2014 (talk • contribs) 06:40, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

• This is the help desk for help editing Wikipedia. Wikipedia and Google are separate entities and we have absolutely no control over what Google displays in their search results. Assuming you are talking about the Google Knowledge Graph there is a link at the bottom for feedback where you can report errors. If you find an error on a Wikipedia article please fix it. As a side note, I Googled Felix Manalo Movie and I did not find what you said was there so perhaps the results have already updated. --Stabila711 (talk) 06:45, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Well, i do not know how you did it but now the result was corrected. thnx for the fast service. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Watchman2014 (talk • contribs) 06:49, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Many edits have been made to Felix Manalo (film) in the last two days. Maproom (talk) 12:14, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Question

I'm simply curious whether Wikipedia and Wikimedia have any environmental and social sustainability practices and activities? This is about them specifically and I've never been able to find something about this or if anyone has ever asked about this. Cheers, SwisterTwister talk 07:10, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

You can find a statement at wmf:Answers/Wikimedia Foundation if you click on the collapsed bottom question about "values and beliefs". I can't find any specifics, but I guess you could always ask them. Or post to Jimbo's user talk page. I'm sure he'd respond. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:21, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Minimum number of articles to justify a template (table)?

A little over a month ago I was told on a talk page:

This [table] also shouldn't be transcluded in, as there's no reason for a template to exist solely to transclude a table to 2 articles. I've substituted the table with the MOS fixes; please do not re-add that content.

[Note: The MOS issues were resolved.]

Is there a policy concerning a minimum number of pages to justify a transcluded table? This editor has basically taken ownership of the amphetamine article and after this dispute he substituted every transcluded table, while "fixing" only the one I transcluded. The "...please do not re-add that content" feels like ownership and I am skeptical of the "no reason ... to transclude a table to 2 articles" remark. (It may belong in a few others.) Please help! — Box73 (talk) 10:51, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

I don't see that it is specifically stated, but I know of at least one editor banned for re-instituting 2 and 3 item nav boxes after multiple community consensus discussions that they were not appropriate. The big box needed for a display of 2 items, particularly when the second term is almost certainly going to be listed prominently in the article, is just clutter with no actual navigation help. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:32, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

I'm confused. This is the template Template:Amphetamine_base_in_marketed_amphetamine_medications which is transcluded at the end of dextroamphetamine and substituted and edited in amphetamine. It isn't a navigation box nor any interlinking. I suppose I don't understand the matter sufficiently and I don't mean to be contrary. I am transcluding a somewhat detailed table but not huge, and it is much easier to revise it once than twice, and avoids the inconsistencies that develop otherwise. Because of this substitution it is now being transcluded on a single page which can't be justified, while IMO it could be justified on two. Respectfully, what am I misunderstanding? — Box73 (talk) 13:04, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Box73. To the best of my knowledge there is no hard and fast rule on this subject, it is a matter of editorial judgement. The ban mentioned above was not for violating an explicit rule, but for reintroducing a template against clear consensus. The way to handle this is to start a discussion on an appropriate talk page -- that of the template or of one of the articles in question. I would add pointers from the other talk pages invoilved, and from any related WikiProject. Then explain your reasons for wanting the template transcluded rather than subst'd, and see if you can obtain a consensus for doing so. You may want to make this a formal RFC. DES ^(talk) 15:48, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Translation Button

Dear Friends,

For a same article in any language there was a translation button upside right on the page which was a helpful tool in the case of cross information check for a same article. It seems it disappeared or I can find it out.

Could you please,help me ?

Thanks187.58.51.122 (talk) 11:40, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

I dont believe Wikipedia has ever had translations but there are links to other language Wikipedia articles when other languages have articles about those topics (and they have been properly tagged as being about the same subject). In the default view the language list should be in the left hand column under the gear icon. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:29, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Do you have an account? If so, does the wanted feature appear when you log in? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:30, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

"Upside right"? Do you mean in the upper right hand corner? If you're using Chrome, that's where Google puts the translate button. But that doesn't have anything to do with Wikipedia... Dismas|^(talk) 15:24, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Visited pages

"Mark all pages visited" on my Watchlist doesn't work. It's very irritating to go though several days of acivity, then mark all pages visited (in vain) seeing all the little green dots turn blue, and then come back in a few days to find that it has been undone. Is this a known problem? Please tag me if you reply! I'm feeling very frustrated right now. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 13:58, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

@SergeWoodzing: Do you mean that the specific edits you already marked as visited have become new again? I've never had that happen to me. Maybe what you're seeing are new edits to these articles. For example, if I make an edit to Rabid Grannies on Friday, you mark the edit as viewed, and then I make another edit to that article on Saturday, you will need to mark the edit on Saturday as viewed, too. This is by design. If you don't want to be alerted to new edits on a page, you should take it off your watchlist. The edit on Friday should stay marked as viewed, though. If you see the edit from Friday show up again as new, you should file a bug report. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 18:09, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Indeed I meant that I find a day that's three days old, for which I turned all the little dots blue in stead of green when it was only 1 day old, back with a mixture of greens and blues, though I had turned all the little dots blue by using "Mark all pages visited" when I left. Now today it didn't happen. Happens about every third time I log in to do some work. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:46, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

If you're seeing the same exact edits reset back to green, it's possible the page was cached by your browser. You'd have to reload the page and bypass your browser's cache. Click that link for instructions on common browsers. Beyond that, I'm not really sure what would cause this. The people at WP:VPT might be able to help you better, as they are more familiar with the technical aspects of MediaWiki, the software that Wikipedia uses. If you post there, you should probably report what browser and operating system you're using so they can better help you. You should also mention if you're using the mobile version of the website. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:10, 12 October 2015 (UTC)