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September 29

Empty reason for deletion

Some pages, such as User:Tokyogirl79/book synopsis and Draft:Queensland State Velodrome, have a deletion log entry without any reason for deletion. How can one store a list of such pages? GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 04:30, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Are you looking for a list of pages which were deleted without a specific reason provided? Tiggerjay (talk) 05:09, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

In case you're not clear, it's always possible to delete a page with no rationale whatsoever. Never a good idea, but it's the default. If you're an administrator, when you click the "delete" button, you're presented with something like File:Delete-NAS.PNG, although the dropdown menu displays "Other reason" instead of a reason. "Other reason" always gets hidden when you click "Delete page"; if you click it without changing anything, the page gets deleted without a rationale, so you have to pick an option from the dropdown (e.g. G12 speedy, as in the image) and/or type something in the blank. For future reference, if you discover such a page, you can always ask the deleting admin, or if that's not practical (e.g. the admin's no longer active), just make a request at another administrator's talk page, or go to WP:REFUND and say something like "this page got deleted with no rationale, so please undelete this page and then re-delete it with a rationale". Nyttend (talk) 19:27, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Bulk download of images from a list

Hi.

Sorry, new to this and not sure where else to ask. I have searched the FAQ, archive, general internet and Mediawiki extentsion but cannot find a clear and simple solution.

I would like to download a list of images directly.

To explain why, I am trying to set up a working copy of Mediawiki/Wikipedia in order to learn how it works and how to administrate it. For example, I have most elements working, including various templates and portals, but am missing all the graphic icons for them.

Special pages offer a list of missing images (Special:WantedFiles).

I was wonder how it would be possible just to take the list generated, and use it to download them directly and automatically. Ditto for a few categories of topics (for dummy content). I appreciate that some graphics and images might be here, and some over at Wikipedia. I don't want to make a book or a PDF, just need the raw data.

I have read some really complex articles about downloading complete dumps from mirrors, setting up environments and and using command lines to extract images etc but that seem like overkill for what I'm after.

Is there an easy way to do it (and bulk uploading).

Thanks. --Wordfunk (talk) 07:40, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Does Wikipedia:Database download help? Rwessel (talk) 07:58, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, but I am afraid not. It's out of date too, there is no "upload.wikimedia.org". Strange there's a function to make a book but not one to download a category or topic's worth of images.

Downloading the entire database and then digging out just the one's you need is impossible. It's a TB of data they say.

The problem is, each file is held on a "File:example.jpg" page, but the actual jpeg is then buried in some random folder somewhere, e.g. "/wikipedia/commons/5/57/example.jpg".

What about all the graphics used in the templates etc, are they available as a single "skin" download?

Appreciated. --Wordfunk (talk) 17:17, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Ah, OK, it seems it's a known issue, see: Add image data option to Special:Export and has been hanging around since 2006 or 2008.

Betacommand added a comment.Via Conduit · Mar 21 2014, 4:50 PM

"This has the potential to make moving data from project to project, and even having a standard import/export with default data much easier. Right now setting up and or importing templates/articles and similar are very time consuming as you have to track down every image that is being used and manually move that to the new project. This would also make moving data to and from commons much easier and enable maintaining attribution without having to jump through hoops".

That's exactly what I am talking about, so it seems the answer currently is no. You've got to sit and move 100s, if not 1,000s of them, individually by hand. --Wordfunk (talk) 20:40, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Welcome to our world...--ukexpat (talk) 13:33, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

My first article

Mawra Hocane has been tagged as speedy deletion. It was previously deleted, so I have improved the references.--NewMutants (talk) 11:03, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Just because someone’s chosen occupation means that they appear in some films as an actor or actress does not make them notable in an encyclopedic sense. The reference provided all appear to be advertorials rather than reliable sources. So I think this article should go to AfD again. Promotional material like this is more suited to be posted somewhere else but not here.--Aspro (talk) 13:16, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Uploading a picture

Dear helpers,

I have created a Wikipedia article, and it is coming along pretty well, but it lacks some pictures. So I decided to upload some pictures. The pictures are uploaded in Wikimedia Commons and can be found in Wikimedia commons already. When I use the link that is given to me in the Wikimedia Commons upon completing the upload process in my article the little message box simply stays there and does nothing. It doesnt give me any reason to see what is wrong. Is it my article, my picture, or my computer?

Kind regards Maddmaxie (talk) 13:28, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Maddmaxie, what page are you referring to? I've looked at your recent edits and I can't see any obvious problem. The format is [[File:filename.jpg|thumb|caption]] Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:50, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

(ec) Hello @Maddmaxie:, if you are referring to File:Gezicht op het Badhotel te Domburg.jpg, this file is searchable and accessible in Wikipedia (at least for me). Or did you mean a different file? Please provide a link to the problem for such questions, it's easier to help then. As a general note, newly uploaded Commons images may sometimes need a bit of time (a few hours, 1-2 days), until they are searchable in Wikipedia (depending on the servers' mood, I suppose). But the linked file is OK and can also be added to articles with the above File tag (just tested). GermanJoe (talk) 13:52, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

2 more points:- 1) file names are case sensitive, so must be copied exactly 2) when a file is first added to an article it can take several seconds for the image to appear, so people preview the page and assume they have got it wrong, as it is not immediately visible - it is worth hanging on for 15-20 seconds before assuming there is a mistake. - Arjayay (talk) 14:00, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you guys. I just needed to give it some time, it indeed worked. Thank you for the quick help.--Maddmaxie (talk) 14:23, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error references missing key

re Bill Alexander theatre director

I've just added citations against 'recent work' but they seem to have disappeared??? eek also, I don't know how to cite the fact that Bill and Juliet have four grandchildren? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moobel (talk • contribs) 14:27, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Moobel. I assume you are talking about the article Bill Alexander (director). It saves volunteers responding time if you provide a link to any article you are asking for help with.

You had (or some earlier editor had) included a list-defined reference to Trowbridge, Simon (2010). The Company : a biographical dictionary of the Royal Shakespeare Company, but had not actually cited that source by including the proper ref tag <ref name="Trowbridge" />. I have added it in what seems to be the proper place. Note that if this source can also support othre statements in the article, this same tag can be added in other places to indicate this.

If a source states that they have four grandchildren, this is cited just as any other supporting source would be. However, is this really significant encyclopedic information about this subject?

Please note for the future that section headers use sentence case: "Later work", not "Later Work".

I hope all this helps.Please check to see that no errors have been introduced by later fixes. DES ^(talk) 15:36, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

LIST OF NRI IN DUBAI

R/Sir How can I get list of INDIAN NRI at DUBAI. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.212.186.214 (talk) 15:00, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Please clarify. What or who are NRI???? And what does this have to do with editing Wikipedia? --Orange Mike | Talk 15:05, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

NRI is Non-resident Indians. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 15:15, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Nick Gromicko's Wiki page

Nick Gromicko

We have tried several times to upload a list of articles in which Nick Gromicko or his company InterNACHI have been referenced or quoted, and every time we do, that list is deleted by the following day. We're not sure why, or how to proceed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.164.36.69 (talk) 16:06, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

For starters, you should not be thinking about it as "Nick Gromicko's Wiki page" - it is "the Wikipedia encyclopedia article about Nick Gromicko".

Secondly, who is "we"? If "we" have a connection to Nick Gromicko, "we" should not be editing the article directly. Instead, make suggestions on the article talk page. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 16:10, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

If you do make a suggestion on the article talk page, please use {{Request edit}} to alert other editors that changes have been requested.~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 16:24, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

@Maddiefoster: I noticed that most of the list that was included just provides links to where Mr. Gromicko was quoted. At Wikipedia, that does not confer notability on a person. Articles need to be about the subject, i.e. Nick Gromicko. If nobody is writing about him, then we don't consider him notable. Dismas|^(talk) 17:07, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Article has been speedily deleted per Wikipedia:CSD#A7.--ukexpat (talk) 13:56, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Cite Error

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.154.65.181 (talk) 18:43, September 29, 2015 (UTC)

Article: Royal Northern College of Music

• You added <ref></ref> tags without adding an actual reference. Please see referencing for beginners for information on how to cite. --Stabila711 (talk) 19:08, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

I do not know what to do with this user.

I know not if this is the better site to ask this, but I don´t know where ask. Long ago, in the Template:Ethnicity in Louisiana, I included a parenthesis next to the word " Creoles" to placing in it to "Cajuns" and "Isleños in Louisiana," because both peoples are Louisiana Creole people. However, a anonymous user is removing this parenthesis. I put the parenthesis several times and the user removed it in all of them, without even indicate why eliminated the parenthesis in the summary editing. Even I indicated, in the talk page of the user, that he should not remove the brackets and that if he did that he should indicate why eliminated. The user not only did not answer, but he returned to remove the parenthesis that I put. I do not know what I can do with this person. I do not know if I should indicate this to an administrator to he blocked him, or do other thing, and I need to know, because it starts to be very annoying.--Isinbill (talk) 19:53, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

You can wait some time and see if the user reacts to the talk page message that you posted on the IP's talk page. If not and they revert again, you can go to WP:RFPP and request semi-protection. Ruslik_Zero 20:11, 29 September 2015 (UTC)