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If I have the hex code for a color, how do I incrementally change the hex code to make the color become a little lighter or darker?

Let's say that you have a color. And, just as an example, let's look at this page: List of colors: N–Z. On that page, the second color down is called "Napier Green" and its hex code is 2A8000.

Let's say that I wanted to get that basic color, but I want it to be just a little bit lighter (or, maybe, darker). I imagine that if I "tweak" some of the values in that code (2A8000), that will do the trick. So, I can tweak that code to make the Napier Green just a tiny bit lighter. Then, if I tweak the code again, I can make the color incrementally just a little bit more light. And so on. (And, in the opposite direction, I imagine it works for making the shade incrementally darker.)

So, is my basic premise correct? Or am I "off" in my thinking?

If I am correct, what would the "tweaking" entail? Would I just add one to the code of 2A8000? And then add one again? And then keep adding one to get it lighter and lighter? So, I would try 2A8001, then 2A8002, then 2A8003, and so forth?

Or is this totally wrong? If I am wrong, how would I tweak the basic code to get incrementally lighter (or darker) shades of Napier Green (or of any color)? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 01:23, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

The hex code is an RGB (Red-Green-Blue) triplet. If you just add 1, you're increasing the blue component only, and changing the basic colour. To lighten it, you need to change all three components: 2B8101, 2C8202.... Rojomoke (talk) 02:59, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

This is all over my head. So let me see if I understand. In the hex code (2A8000), the first two digits (2A) are the code for "the amount of red"; the second two digits (80) are the code for "the amount of green"; and the third two digits (00) are the code for "the amount of blue"? So, I have to simultaneously add one to the "2A" (to add a little more red); and add one to the "80" (to add a little more green); and add one to the "00" (to add a little more blue). Is that correct? Also, does "adding" make the shade darker or lighter? And does subtracting make the shade darker or lighter? Which is which? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:03, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

@Joseph A. Spadaro: Increasing all three numbers will lighten the colour - #FFFFFF is white; decreasing will darken it - #000000 is black. There's more information in the Web colors article. -- John of Reading (talk) 05:53, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Doesn't hexadecimal go up to the letter "G"? Why does it stop at "F" for color codes written in hex? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 07:09, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Decimal notation uses ten digits: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9. Hexadecimal uses sixteen: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F. Maproom (talk) 07:30, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

A-ha! Yes. I forgot to "count" the zero. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 13:05, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

@Joseph A. Spadaro: I suppose you would have to translate your color from the RGB space (which describes a color by the Red, Green and Blue components) to HSV space (which uses Hue, Saturation and Value, i.e. brightness); then increment or decrement the Value a bit; and finally translate the result back to RGB. For more details, see sections:

• List of color spaces and their uses
  • #RGB
  • #Hue and saturation

Also:

• HSL and HSV
  • #General approach (and following sections) for converting RGB to HSV,
  • #Converting to RGB for converting backwards.

CiaPan (talk) 14:38, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

@Joseph A. Spadaro: This isn't exactly what you asked for, but it may help. I personally use this website (don't worry about French, you don't have to understand it for using). In "Couleur 1" input your RGB color "#2A8000", in "Couleur 2" - "FFF" (short for "#FFFFFF"), then press "Nuancer". --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 05:48, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

@Edgars2007: Very interesting. Thanks. I did play around with it a bit. I wish I could understand the French. What exactly am I doing and what exactly is the website doing? I assume I am asking it to take my color (#2A8000) and give me incrementally lighter shades. Correct? I assume that's what the "nuancer" button does. What about the other button ("effacer")? I assumed that would give darker shades, but it did nothing at all. Also, why do we type in "FFF"? What is that supposed to do? And why not "FFFFFF"? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 14:36, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Could someone please wikify three articles?

1. In the Laverne_Cox and her brother's M_Lamar article a reference saying their birth date is May 29th 1984. Could this article be used a reference: http://orange-is-the-new-black.wikia.com/wiki/Laverne_Cox 2. In the article about John_Roberts_(actor) it needs a reference saying he is of Italian descent. Would this article work: http://bobs-burgers.wikia.com/wiki/John_Roberts 3. Again in the article about Lori_Tan_Chinn needs a reference saying she is of Asian descent. Would this reference do: http://www.vulture.com/2015/07/asian-immigrants-tv-respect.html Thanks! 50.68.120.49 (talk) 03:09, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

1. wikia sites are not usually accepted as references, per WP:USERGENERATED.

2 ditto

3: this one is fine, through I haven't read through it to verify it has a statement to support the claim. It seems to be fine as a source (newspaper/magazine like article) from a reasonably reliable website (Vulture.com). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:12, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

How to find a list of my edits with a particular edit summary?

I want to see the list of edits I made with a particular edit summary (when I used the keyword "prod" to see which of my prods survived and may need an AfD follow up). The tool I used before is broken (User_talk:Scottywong#Broken_tool.3F). What's the replacement? If you reply here, please WP:ECHO me; thanks. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:07, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

I believe [1] will do what you want, but it appears broken at the moment. Rwessel (talk) 08:39, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus
The "Edit summary search" linked at the bottom of my "User contributions" page works for me - it does take some time to find the last 500 uses of my chosen edit summary (136 seconds on the test I have just run) but does then enable me to search for the previous 500, and the 500 before that, etc. - Arjayay (talk) 08:55, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

how to change the article

Note: I have removed the copy and paste of the article as that is not allowed due to the rules of our content license.

@Pawanhindu: This article is semi-protected, so new or unregistered users are not able to edit it. For now, please request your edit on Talk:Kumhar.--Jasper Deng (talk) 07:18, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

The Browser (website)

Dear Wikipedia Help Desk,

The Browser's URL is blacklisted on Wikipedia. (I cannot include the URL here, because blacklisting, but it is "The Browser" as one word, followed by dot com).

We are a recommendations website, so most of the links on our pages redirect to other sites; and I am guessing that this may be why we are blacklisted.

I have consulted the advice given at Wikipedia:Spam blacklist

But this page warns:

• Requests from site owners or anyone with a conflict of interest Wikipedia:Conflict of interest will be declined*

Can you give me any advice on how to get the blacklisting lifted?

With best wishes

Robert

-- Robert Cottrell, Editor, The Browser — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robertpierscottrell (talk • contribs) 08:47, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Looking over the site in question, I could see it's use for outside reading and even how it could be useful for editors. However, I'm not exactly seeing the use of linking The Browser on Wikipedia. It just links to other sites that we would link to instead. Yes, it could be useful for editors who cover a variety of topics to have quick access to a variety of new sources, but if those links are going to disappear behind your pay wall after a certain amount of time, then we might as well just link to the original piece (even if that is behind its own paywall).

The only purpose I'm seeing in allowing The Browser to be linked would be to promote your site, and that's not what we're here for. You are quite welcome to help out with anything else on the site, but I strongly recommend that you do not continue to try to get The Browser off of the spam blacklist. Ian.thomson (talk) 09:09, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Attempted fraud via Wikipedia site

HI there

I just wanted to flag a fraud attempt via the Wikipedia site. I was on the following page (link below), and when I clicked "list of registered financial intitutions" I was redirected to an apparent "Microsoft Edge" site which offered me a free IPhone 6 in exchange for a small delivery free. Of course the site requests my credit card details to enable the delivery of my phone. I have screen shots if you want them. Suggest you remove the link and/or check the rest of the page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitec_Bank

Many thanks Jackie Eberle (South Africa) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.0.94.134 (talk) 08:51, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

It appears the site the source was hosted on failed to renew their domain, or was bought out, or possibly was added as WP:REFSPAM to begin with. In any case, I have removed the link. Ian.thomson (talk) 08:59, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Ian, you beat me to it. I've had the same sort of thing happen to a domain name that I relinquished. Strangely, that link is no longer redirecting to the fake site for me. It now just goes to http://quickdomainfwd.com. Are the fraudsters so quick to notice that their fraud has been uncovered? Dbfirs 09:02, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

It still redirects for me. It has put me (through 2 auto-refreshes, I believe) to a site something like
http://QQQ.microsoft.com-XXXXX.online/YYYYYY
Possibly redirection works depending on you geographic area or possibly it is just random – I have seen this page before, from another machine in another network location. And now, when I tried it for 4 times, I landed in 4 different locations. The second and third one were some job-seeking sites, the fourth one is a 'buy this domain' for finforum.co.za. --CiaPan (talk) 09:36, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

It may be a combination of location and how your browser is set up. I just got the for sale page, but my security is kinda paranoid. Ian.thomson (talk) 09:48, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Following the link multiple times sent me to different sites, so it looks like there is at least a degree of randomness. —  crh ₂₃  (Talk) 09:53, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Ah, yes, it's redirecting again once now for me in each browser, then always goes back to the "for sale" page. Probably just paid advertising, some of which is fraud. The domain name registration has changed significantly seventeen times over the last six years, and is currently registered to someone called Tanja Ferraro in Ireland, Luxembourg or Germany (who knows?) and this person is associated with 2,368 other domains, many on the French and Italian TLDs. The first redirect lives on the servers at parkingcrew.net (just in case anyone is interested). Dbfirs 12:47, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

FWIW; the original page content to which the material was sourced is here. -- The Voidwalker ^Discuss 23:55, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Changing MyDriver to myDriver

Hi, I was wondering if you could help me change the name of the wikipedia page of my company. Currently it is 'MyDriver' when it should in fact be 'myDriver'. I would be able to move the page myself but I am not currently able to move pages on my account. The link to the article is here: MyDriver. Thanks, Sam Lindsay — Preceding unsigned comment added by JamesDrove12 (talk • contribs) 10:51, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

@JamesDrove12: It is not possible to start a page name with a lower case letter. myDriver already has the code {{DISPLAYTITLE:myDriver}} to display the heading as "myDriver" at top of the page. This is all that is possible. {{lowercase title}} is another way to do it. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:18, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

New Section

I am trying to design/create awards for user talk pages (Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Nigeria/Writing Contest/Commendations). However, they appear next to each other instead of each one in its own chapter. Any recommendations? What did I forget? Thanks, --Gereon K. (talk) 12:45, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Solved by Eagleash. Thank you! --Gereon K. (talk) 13:11, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) :Hello, not sure if it is what you wanted, but I have placed {{-}} (or you can use {{clear}} if preferred) between the placings so that they appear as separate lines/sections. If not please feel free to undo! Eagleash (talk) 13:14, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

This solution requires that {{-}} is always placed after it and may mess with the formatting of some user talk pages. {{Babel field}} is meant for userboxes and is a poor choice for an award on user talk pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:23, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. I could not find another suitable template. Now how do I center the names in the last three rewards? --Gereon K. (talk) 16:16, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

You can use <center>(name)</center>. -- The Voidwalker ^Discuss 23:58, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Hunt of a Lifetime Foundation

Dear persons, Hunt of a Lifetime President & Founder Tina Pattison here. Can you correct your definition of "I collected funds to make his dream happen" & "that folks donated funds" to "all services & product to make the dream happen was donated by Safari Club Int'l/Pittsburgh, PA Chapter, Safari Outfitters Association in Wyoming, Clayton & Gene Grosso Outfitters of Nordegg, Alberta, Canada & the wonderful townsfolk/Businesses of Nordegg, Alberta, Canada.

Any questions feel free to call me:(Redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.165.212.75 (talk) 15:28, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

24.165.212.75 No, because the proposed text is not neutral tone, nor is it reliably sourced. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:08, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

24.165.212.75 In the future, to request an edit to a page where you have a conflict of interest, use {{edit request}} on the talk page of the page you want edited. —  crh ₂₃  (Talk) 16:12, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

As an aside, I'm nominated the article for AfD. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:17, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi Tina. This not strictly a notable article and should be deleted. However, I will gloss over that for now. The only way we can include the help of your sponsors is if you or somebody else can give us a reference to a news paper article or something that states this. Where it to be on your own website that would not be good enough. Sorry to be a sourpuss but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that requires third party references. Suggest you ask around your circle for anyone that is computer literate for help. In the mean time I will do some formatting for you on the article.--Aspro (talk) 16:19, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

A further thought. Tina create an account – instructions here: Wikipedia:Tutorial/Registration. Your organization my not be notable today but you have gotten sponsors and a following of local support. So maybe soon it will be notable enough for inclusion here on Wikipedia. If you create an account, I or another editor can more the proto-article over to your draft page. Wikipedia:Drafts You can then improve it until ready for submition. I/we wont do this however on your anonymous IP 24.165.212.75 because you have conflict of interest so we need to know who you are. Usually creating a article for ones own purposes is frowned upon, yet if you can crate an article that is notable & verifiable & neutral, that overrides the conflict-of-interest.--Aspro (talk) 17:25, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Please review the AfD. There is evidence there that the organization is already notable. The IPs's request is being correctly denied, but it appears little effort was made to establish the notability of the organization before declaring it non-notable. General Ization ^Talk 17:29, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

General Ization I reviewed sources, and didn't find enough to pass WP:GNG. Please son't assume laziness/incompetence on my part. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:39, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

I didn't assume anything except that, for whatever reason, your search failed to find multiple reliable, independent sources I found quite readily. Will discuss your conclusions concerning WP:GNG at the AfD. General Ization ^Talk 17:43, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Having done some more research, the organization itself is notable, so rather it is the article that needs more work done on it to bring it up-to standard. So I vote against deletion.--Aspro (talk) 18:02, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

@Aspro: Please !vote at the AfD. Your comment here will have no effect on that proceeding. General Ization ^Talk 18:21, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

How can I create a forward to a page in another Wiki

Dear all,

When clicking on "German" in the language sidebar of this [1] English article, I would like to create a forward to that [2] German article page. How can I do it?

Thankfully,

--orschiro (talk) 16:44, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storage_water_heater [2] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiler

First, if I understand you correctly, that can't be done. If a user clicks on a link, that's where they're going to go. Not to an introduction to what they will eventually be seeing or something like that. And second, I don't know why it would be necessary. Could you explain in better detail why this is needed? Then maybe we can offer a suggestion that is possible. Dismas|^(talk) 17:01, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

The language links in the sidebar are handled by Wikidata, have a read of the instructions for inter-language links here. The link you want to make wasn't possible, due to a clash between Storage water heater and Hot water storage tank. Since it appears to me that the German "Boiler" translates closer to the English Storage water heater, I have changed the wikidata pages accordingly. —  crh ₂₃  (Talk) 17:11, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments, very appreciated! The link does work now. Just to clarify: is the normal user able to cross-link articles in different languages? All I wanted to achieve by that link is that the English article links to the corresponding German article. orschiro (talk) 20:12, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Yes, just like Wikipedia, anyone can edit Wikidata! Your enwiki account carries over, so you have the same login credentials. Due to it being primarily a database, it is quite different to editing Wikipedia. More depth can be found at the Wikidata help pages. —  crh ₂₃  (Talk) 21:02, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

I think that Wikidata was the missing link in my chain of understanding. Will have a look at it and create an account there. Thanks so much for your help! orschiro (talk) 05:15, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Threatening tone by editor

The latest edit of the Bellevue Education article,( 08:16, 25 April 2016‎) has the following summary

"Joint venture mention updated for accurate reflection of Trust and moved to rightful place. Blog mention removed as taken from a source that posted unproven and discredited allegations. Anyone who reposts is at risk of implicating themselves as such."

"implicating themselves as such" this is not language I am used to seeing on wikipedia. Also no evidence that the referenced source mentioned was "unproven and discredited" its just asserted. Any views or comments?

I also see that the "blog mention' text has now been removed three times, once without reason given, by an unregistered user, so reinstated by another editer, removed again by a registered user with no profile who has only every edited the Bellevue Education article, and who wrongly described the changes as minor, so i reverted the edit and on this third time by another registered user who who has only ever edited Bellevue Education related material. I have not reverted again, as I would like to hear from the community...Daithidebarra (talk) 16:45, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

I haven't looked at the article but you might want to look at WP:BLOGSOURCE for a valid reason why a blog source might be removed. Dismas|^(talk) 16:57, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for that Dismas I have now looked at BLOGSOURCE, and it strengthens my view that, as yet, no valid reason has been put forward for that reference to be removed. the blog in question by the way is Sarawak Report look forward to more comments from you all.Daithidebarra (talk) 17:16, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

I wonder if someone has confused 1MDB with IMDB, which is well known to Wikipedia editors as an unreliable source? Maproom (talk) 22:59, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Interesting suggestion Maproom, but given the content of the removed passage not a likely topic for IMDB. The reference to 1MDB is not as a source but as a company of which wrongdoing is alleged. I note by the way that Sarawak Reportis taken seriously as a source by the New York Times, I have now come across relevant references from the Sunday Times and the Guardian which after reverting could be incorporated into a re write. When I have the time.Daithidebarra (talk) 19:58, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Well, having asked for comments, I now propose to revert the edit in question and we shall see what happens. Daithidebarra (talk) 19:44, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

I have now reverted the edit, there were some minor technical gliches when I did it the first time,(had to do it manually) so I had to revert my first edit myself and do it again. I now know to use preview in future.... Article could do with some further tidying up.Daithidebarra (talk) 09:39, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

This is what happened after I reverted the edit.

14:34, 29 April 2016‎ Wikijan2016 (talk | contribs)‎ . . (9,231 bytes) (-2,210)‎ . . (The Bellevue Place joint venture is already included in its appropriate place under history. The last sentences refers to a discredited and illegal blog, and is as such not a trusted source that can be used. This will be reported to wikipedia.) 

Any comments?

joey davis ncaa record

joey davis ncaa d2 4xncaa champion without a lost 133-0 notre dame college of ohio — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:6000:6487:8B00:2098:631C:814B:602 (talk) 18:28, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Did you have a question about editing Wikipedia? --David Biddulph (talk) 18:37, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Edit Content

I have tried updating a persons bio with another marriage but the site never updated it. I have the marriage cert. and wondered if you need proof? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.143.66.69 (talk) 21:47, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

This post is the only edit by your current IP address. Which article and marriage is it about? Wikipedia requires already published reliable sources and not personal documents like marriage certificates. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:18, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for comments it is filed in NV and MI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.143.66.69 (talk) 20:44, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

That doesn't sound like an acceptable source. Which article and marriage is it about? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:42, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Please tell me what is a acceptable source? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.143.66.69 (talk) 18:41, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

See WP:reliable sources. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:48, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Broken logo in article

On the Homestar Runner page's logo, the logo is displayed incorrectly on many browsers (e.g. Google Chrome on Windows 7) and is supposed to be displayed like the thumbnail on the file page. I'm not sure what the issue is, and I think it might be an overlap issue with the .SVG file. I'm not very sure on how to solve this, and the thumbnail appears to be correct. What happened, and how can this be fixed? Thanks. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 22:36, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

I don't know that it was displayed incorrectly on my system (Chrome, Windows 10), but it seemed unpleasantly large, so I have made it smaller. Maproom (talk) 22:57, 25 April 2016 (UTC)