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December 31

Illegible userboxes

What's the point of Category:Potentially illegible userboxes? Quite reasonably, it's in Category:Accessibility issue tracking categories (if it's illegible, it's inaccessible to everyone!), but I can't find out how a userbox gets put there, and as all of the member pages I've checked are easily legible, I'm not sure why they're in it. Consider User:UBX/Homeless, where I discovered the category in the first place. It doesn't have the category code directly, so clearly it's coming from elsewhere. {{Userbox}}, the basis for this specific box, also doesn't mention the category, so I checked the module on which the template is based. At least I've found the category transclusion instructions, which appear in the following code:

Extended content
if data.showId2 and contrast { data.id2Color, data.id2BackgroundColor, error = 0 } < 4.5 then if has_text(data.id2 or "") then legible = false end end if not legible then root:wikitext('[[Category:Potentially illegible userboxes]]')

But what's the point of this category, and why would we conclude that these userboxes are illegible? It was added with a rationale of "track bad colour contrast and userboxes in mainspace", but "bad colour contrast" isn't at all the same as "illegible", and the requesting user hasn't edited in months. Either there's a mistake with the coding (unlikely), or someone's tracking userboxes that appear to me to be fine; any insight would help me here. Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 00:58, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Since the test is for contrast, I'm guessing the problem is the black text on the dark red background. Might be completely legible to you, but maybe not for all (ie: colorblind?) RudolfRed (talk) 02:05, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

At least with my form of colorblindness (see my long illustrated comment at Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Science/2015_October_17#Enchroma_glasses_for_colorblindness), it's not an issue, and anyway legibility and color aren't the same thing, since you can always copy/paste the text somewhere else. So it's just a color-based thing then? Perhaps we could rename it, e.g. "Userboxes with poor colo(u)r contrast"? Nyttend (talk) 02:50, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Arul selvan

Hi cyphoidbomb,you have noticed me as that i adding satellite rights.But many of the film having the satellite rights in wiki page.so i have added the satellite rights informations.Thankyou. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arul selvan (talk • contribs) 02:34, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi cyphoidbomb,you have noticed me as that i adding satellite rights.But many of the film having the satellite rights in wiki page.so i have added the satellite rights informations.Thankyou.(Arul selvan (talk) 02:44, 31 December 2016 (UTC)) arul selvan Usertalk:arul selvan UTC 8:13,31-12-2016

Cyphoidbomb, you're being mentioned here, so I thought I'd give you a ping. Nyttend (talk) 02:51, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Nyttend. @Arul selvan: as I've explained several times on your talk page, we're not here to track every money move a film made. We're only here to give a general overview of a film, it's box office performance, critical response, production, things of that nature. Indian film trades like to over-analyze films, maybe for lack of anything else academic to discuss, but we're not an Indian film trade. Yes, other articles have information about satellite right sales, but per Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force/Archive 5#Satellite rights?, the community doesn't see the need for inclusion. Thus, the satellite rights information in other articles, is likely to be removed in the future as trivial. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:09, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Subject of article changes name

Does Wikipedia have a policy regarding instances where the subject of an article has a name change? Specifically, when does one change the article to match the subject's new name? When the new name is first used by a source? When it is made official in some legal way? When it is first used after becoming official? I am not thinking of any specific article at this time. However, there have been edit conflicts (wars) in the past. For example, the article on actress Kaley Cuoco. When she married, there was dispute over whether to rename the article Kaley Cuoco-Sweeting to reflect the name she was using professionally and legally. (Her name was changed in the credits of TBBT and in press releases from CBS, but some editors did not want the article changed. The issue became moot when she divorced.) It is not only an issue with BLPs. A similar situation arose with the renaming of Willis Tower. If there is not a policy, should there be?    → Michael J Ⓣ Ⓒ Ⓜ 03:00, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi Michael J there is indeed an article title policy which has a specific section about name changes that has advice about how to handle the situation. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:33, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Roger. I was hunting all over for that.    → Michael J Ⓣ Ⓒ Ⓜ 15:49, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

File:TNAF PMAY Remixes.jpg

Where can I post a request to have File:TNAF PMAY Remixes.jpg reduced? Please {{ping}} me when you respond. --Jax 0677 (talk) 03:06, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

@Jax 0677: It is already in the queue. The {{non-free reduce}} template puts the image into Category:Wikipedia non-free file size reduction requests which are processed by User:Theo's Little Bot. It will be reduced in time. --Majora (talk) 03:10, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

It's actually really easy. Just choose the resolution you want, add it to any page (without saving!) and view that page in preview, download the rendered image (it's going to be at the resolution you picked), and upload it as a new version of the file. Right now, the image is displayed at 220px; is that good? If so, save the 220px rendering and upload it. Nyttend (talk) 03:13, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

@Majora:, @Nyttend:, the file has been in the queue since December 25, but should be fixed in 24 hours. --Jax 0677 (talk) 03:19, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Yeah...Theo's bot is a little wonky lately. Someone is looking into taking it over and fixing it up. Nyttend's recommendation works. You can also do it directly from the image page with the "Size of this preview" buttons. The 240x240 option works nicely. --Majora (talk) 03:21, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Good point. Note the pixel size in the URL of any image URL of that sort — if you need a size that's not listed with the "Size of this preview" buttons, just click one of the provided links and change the URL. Nyttend (talk) 05:01, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

By the way, Jax, this doesn't work; you have to add your signature and a link to my userspace all in the same edit, or a ping won't happen. I came back here out of curiosity, not because of a ping. Nyttend (talk) 05:03, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

attention members,help me

Hi everybody , some members stated my mistakes on my editing works.I'm a new member to wikipedia editing from since september 2016. I don't know to make a perfect editing.So,members state me,if i make any mistakes on my editing and how to resolve ways,because wikipedia terms and conditions are difficult to understand.I will try to learning editing. Thankyou — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arul selvan‎ (talk • contribs) 04:43, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Hello Arul selvan, it seems to me that your difficulty is because you do not write well in English. You should rather try writing in your own language or another language that you understand better. Please see the list of languages that have a Wikipedia, I hope yours is there. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:51, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Edited Article

I saw that the page for my hometown had some info listed about one of its theatre groups under the Culture section. I edited it, to list the 4 different groups in town, with a bit of info about each one.

My edit was changed back by anow editor and I was told I needed to cite my info. I asked how do I cite it since I live in the town and am a member of two of the organizations.

I was then told by the same editor that the info I was listing was not important and only relevant to the people in this community and that any cited articles had to be from outside the Chicagoland area to be relevant. I questioned why it was ok for one group to be listed (with no cites) but not the others; and furthermore several of the entries under the culture section are only relevant to the people of my town but it makes them proud that it's all listed. This same editor stated the page is not for town pride "go start a website for that" and then he proceeded to delete all the info under the culture section.

I see info like what was there on lost of town's pages. It's not just pride but info about the town. If someone looked up my town that, let's say, was moving here, they could get a good idea of what the town has to offer. So why is it okay on other city's pages but not mine? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TylerMc86 (talk • contribs) 09:25, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

find a brother

would you know WILLIAM EDWARD JACKSON he is my brother and I would love to contact him — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.3.24.12 (talk) 10:43, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 5.3 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:18, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

This is off the top of my head. Is your brother a north podian last known residing in Britain. If so the Salvation Army maybe able to help, as can googling for such sites as [1] . Do you know his occupation? If he was/is a professional he may had belonged to an institute and they have records etc. Do you remember what companies he worked for. If so, he may more than probably be entitled to a pension. The pension funds have records too with current address and can be willing to put you in contact. They look upon this as an 'ethical' rather legal duty, so be polite when requesting for such assistance. There are a lot of leads that you can follow up on, if you truly desire to establish contact. Regretfully, we can not actively answer your question here, as this is not the Help Desk remit.--Aspro (talk) 14:44, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

New 'Billboard Music' Page

Dear Wikipedia,

I am an editor of Wikipedia who edits articles in my spare time. My main interest in the types of articles I edit is Music and Television Shows. To go deeper I mostly edit 'Billboard' Music Charts. One of the pages I currently edit weekly is List of Billboard 200 top 10 albums in 2016 so I edit the weekly posts of albums that have debuted or peaked on the Billboard 200's top 10. My problem is that now that Billboard's charts are transitioning into 2017, there still isn't a page for List of Billboard 200 top 10 albums in 2017. So I tried to make an article pertaining to that but I'm still struggling to make sure it can pass your standards for publishing even though I have read your articles on how to start an article. This will be my first article creation and I need help either making it or having someone create the page for me so that I can make edits on there weekly. Thank you! Cgodw226 (talk) 12:14, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

• Hello Cgodw226, firstly, thank you for your lovely contributions across Wikipedia. The list that you mention is an information list that would easily qualify on our list notability guidelines, especially given the fact that there is a historical perspective to similar named lists existing on Wikipedia. So be bold and create the article. If there are issues, come here and someone here would surely assist you. In the meanwhile, you could also try your bit at List of Billboard 200 number-one albums of 2017. Wishes for the new year. Thanks. Lourdes 15:52, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Another tool not working: Edits by user

When I click on View history at the top of any wiki page and then Edits by user I am supposed to get all the edits performed by a specific editor on that particular page. Unfortunately this tool, which I find very useful, misfunctions a lot, and its maintainer User:Σ has been inactive since 10 September 2016. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 15:03, 31 December 2016 (UTC)please ping me

Update: working now. Ottawahitech (talk) 15:09, 31 December 2016 (UTC)please ping me

Club

{{Admin help}} Hi, I recently created a rough draft of a page in my sandbox for a fictional Wikipedia club called the Minor Editors club. If you read my sandbox, the page talks about this club and how it is focused on helping new users start editing by connecting them with other new users, and letting them work together to discover new things about Wikipedia. It's supposed to be run by moderators and helpers who will roam the talk page and give people advice (this is a position for a more skilled Wikipedian) and the moderators will call out people who aren't following the rules. Now, I realize this is a bit of a far-fetched idea but I was just wondering if it would be possible to make this a thing. Thank you!

We already have The Teahouse. What would your club do that this doesn't? Rojomoke (talk) 16:44, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Instead of providing new users with help, it lets them communicate with other new users to figure things out on their own. Like, maybe there would be an article with bad tone and their job would to figure out how to fix it instead of just being told how to. It's almost like being an engineer. Cattyboi (talk) 16:47, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Porsche Lynn page, I am new, hit "reference" button in error, please undo to fix. Thanks. Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input

 I am new and hit "reference" button, not sure how to undo, please fix or advise how I can fix.

Resolved

The page has been edited since your edits but has also been restored to your version by another editor. I'm afraid I've had to remove your edits also as you did not provide a reliable source (please click that link). Please also see WP:REFB for a basic guide to referencing. Please sign your posts on talk-pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 17:15, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Nickname coloring

I'm having trouble with the HTML syntax to color my nickname. Could anyone help me with the syntax for this:

(Bold and green)Catty (Bold and blue)boi (all one word) Thanks! Cattyboi; font-weig 17:49, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

'''{{green|Catty}}{{blue|boi}}''' = Cattyboi -- samtar ^{talk or stalk} 17:52, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

@Cattyboi: forgot to ping -- samtar ^{talk or stalk} 17:52, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

@Cattyboi: I assume it's for your signature. WP:SIG#NoTemplates does not allow templates in signatures so please don't use the above suggestion. This will work and be allowed: '''<span style="color:green;">Catty</span><span style="color:blue">boi</span>'''. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:13, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Note WP:SIGLINK also requires a link. I'm not saying it's allowed as the complete signature. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:16, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Use edit window to see how mine is formed Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 18:31, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Where do I submit a change in a Biography?

I made these comments in the Teahouse Section of these Wikipedia interactive pages. Will it get noticed?

In a statement from Phyllis Diller's biography, under 'Influence and legacy'[edit source]' the generalization is made: Diller is likely the first solo female comedian in the U.S. to become a household name. While I understand this kind of generality highlights the well known comedian for her era of TV, Stand Up and film acting, I contend with the statement because of another more well known actress of the same time period; Lucille Ball. While her TV series with entertainer Desi Arnaz was a collaboration of story themes in her marriage, Lucy became a household name with solo Mimes, Improvisations and Stand Up within the program itself for many years of original TV genesis. Following Ms. Ball would be a younger Carole Burnett whose TV & film career became much more appealing to a vast audience in the USA and abroad. My comment is made only to criticize that general statement about these past personalities is kept within reasonable guides, so that tweaking the truth (misinformation) does not become factual knowledge. Thanks for your consideration, Gale Hall-Cunningham, MFA-CW, Author — Preceding unsigned comment added by Galewindsnepal (talk • contribs) 19:29, 31 December 2016 (UTC) --Galewindsnepal (talk) 19:52, 31 December 2016 (UTC)--Galewindsnepal (talk) 19:52, 31 December 2016 (UTC)--Galewindsnepal (talk) 19:52, 31 December 2016 (UTC)Lucille Ball - Mini Biography (TV-14; 3:43) Lucille Ball moved to Hollywood and met Cuban-born entertainer Desi Arnaz while working on the film "Dance, Girl, Dance." The pair formed Desilu Productions and soon began their own pioneering television sitcom on CBS, "I Love Lucy." Gale Hall-Cunningham — Preceding unsigned comment added by Galewindsnepal (talk • contribs) 19:39, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

The place to raise such an issue is on the talk page of the article in question; i.e., Talk:Phyllis Diller. While the discussion is going on, you can add the following tag {{fact}} just after the statement you are challenging. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:58, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

See also a response at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions#Phyllis Diller's Biography, Galewindsnepal. It's best to post questions such as this in only one place at once, otherwise it risks wasting volunteers' time providing answers to questions already answered elsewhere. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:37, 31 December 2016 (UTC)