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January 18

External links and infoboxes

On many articles, the website, company, organisation, or educational institution has an infobox, and in that infobox there is a place for the official website of the entity. So, for a page with an infobox that includes the official website of the entity:

1. Should there be an "External links" section of the page if the only link in it is to the same address as the address in the infobox? To me it seems redundant, especially if it's the only link in the section.
2. If it is not the only external link in that section, should the official website be one of the links?

I'm sure this is addressed somewhere; I just haven't been able to find it. Thank you. Faceless Enemy (talk) 01:08, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

An infobox summarises content in the main body of article so I don't think there is a problem with an external link to an official website being in the infobox and the EL section.--ukexpat (talk) 02:57, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Faceless Enemy. In addition to the above, the best explanation I found in the guidelines is in Wikipedia:External_links#Official_links: "Official websites may be included in some infoboxes, and by convention are listed first in the External links section." Also, there is an interesting note in Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Infoboxes#Purpose of an infobox: "using an infobox also makes the data within it available to third party re-users such as DBpedia in a granular, machine readable format, often using microformats."--Gronk Oz (talk) 04:22, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Indeed, all the content of an inforbox is supposed to be "redundant". Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:51, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Nigel Poett

Ref. number 11 is from a book and should have a number in the ref. Please help as I do not know how to do this type of "book" edit. Thanks 101.182.146.167 (talk) 06:37, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello — I'm not entirely clear on what you're asking. The majority of the references in that article seem to be referring to different pages of the same book — Poett's autobiography. I can't see how the eleventh one is different in any way. It would be customary to fully declare details of the book being referred to, and I have just done so, the first time it is used, in this edit. This leaves us with some options as to how best to refer back to this same reference with different page numbers: please take a look at WP:REFPAGE for some options. I've given the autobiography reference a name, so one option now is to refer to different pages like this: <ref name="autobiography"/>{{rp|3}} (where 3 is the page number in that example). Is that what you were after? If not feel free to post back on this page. _└ ^UkPaolo/_talk^┐ 07:23, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Damian Aspinall

I will be clearer. Wrong page - I meant Damian Aspinall page. SORRY Please help me make ref. number 11 on the above page correct - it is from a BOOK and I am aware that there should be a long number added when you have a book as a ref. Here is an example as to what many book refs have: ISBN 0-85052-391-5.

Thanks so much 101.182.146.167 (talk) 07:29, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

 Done in this edit. For future reference, check the template {{cite book}}. The "isbn" property is the one you want to set. In this case the web page you were already linking to about the book included the ISBN so you could grab it from there. In other cases Google Books can be useful to find this. Hope this helps. _└ ^UkPaolo/_talk^┐ 07:40, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

I've found some really quite obscure books listed on Amazon also. Eagleash (talk) 08:01, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

How do I find all the articles that I started?

I am sure that there was a ToolServer Tool, but ToolServer is moved, and I can't find it on the new Tools Lab!

I would be interested in a list of the articles that I created on this Wikipedia (also, as an Admin, I can see deleted ones, so if I can get a list of the deleted articles that I created, that would be great too!). I do not need redirects that I created, but if they are in the list, I can check and remove those!

Thanks PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 09:10, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Special:Contributions has an option for new pages created. It is the tick box labelled "Only show edits that are page creations". Here is yours:

New pages by Phantomsteve

--Murph9000 (talk) 09:19, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) At the foot of your Contributions page there is a link to your "Articles created". --David Biddulph (talk) 09:21, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you both :) PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 10:30, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input

References

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.4.248.11 (talk) 13:50, 18 January 2016‎ (UTC)

I have reverted your unexplained edits, because as well as being malformatted they removed sourced information and did not provide new sources. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:58, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Speakers needed

I am looking at two requests (in OTRS) for speakers. I know we have many volunteers who are willing to be speakers, and assume there is a page somewhere with more information, but have not located it.

FYI, one of the requests relates to scholarly research, another is looking for someone in the San Francisco area.

Is there a resource page? --S Philbrick(Talk) 18:12, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

What do you mean by "speakers"? Assuming that you mean either people to give public talks on a subject, or Wikipedia:Spoken articles, but I'm not sure which, and perhaps you mean something entirely different. Nyttend (talk) 18:32, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, people to give public talks on a subject.--S Philbrick(Talk) 18:37, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

If there is such a thing, let me know, as I'd be delighted to be added to it. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:18, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Possible copyright issue on Sakha wiki.

Hi, I know this probably isn't the place to ask this, but I managed to come across the sah:Буустаах page on Sakha/Yakut language Wikipedia (English wiki article: Lake Bustakh) and I saw an image of a Google Earth map, (uploaded locally, not on commons) here. There's no copyright/licencing template (they may not have those on Sakha wiki though) on the image page and the problem is that I'm not sure a Google Earth screenshot is allowed on any wiki. Can someone please point me in the right direction to find help about this. I would ask at the Sakha wiki, but I don't know the language. Sorry again for asking this here, thanks.  Seagull123  Φ  21:21, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Seagull123. Google Earth images are copyrighted and that is a copyright violation. Although fair use provides an exception to the exclusive use rights copyright provides, it would not be applicable here. That particular language Wikipedia is quite small. It has just two admins you might contact to take action. The second admin listed there, Kyraha, has a template on their talk page indicating a decent level of English understanding. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:21, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

@Fuhghettboutit: Thanks! I know this is an unusual question at the English Wikipedia help desk, but thanks anyway! I'll send Kyraha a message now.  Seagull123  Φ  18:29, 19 January 2016 (UTC)