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August 18

How can I find out

how many articles I have started? Suddenly I am curious. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 00:10, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

At the bottom of your user contribution page [1] there is a link: [2] "Articles Created". Maineartists (talk) 00:20, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Well "you learn something new every day, if you start out dumb enough." (moto of a friend of mine) Thanks, Carptrash (talk) 01:17, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

That's how I start every single day! Maineartists (talk) 01:39, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Getting Headlines synchronized in different lanugages

Good morning,

Problem: -> DISPLAYTITLE: my entry / changes are not accepted

I'm struggeling with the DISPLAYTITLE argument: I need to change the DISPLAYTITLE, but my new entry is not accepted.

Furthermore, I need to harmonize the DISPLAYTITLE for an article in English and German language. (Background: the originator for both articles are not identical) How ccan I accopmplish this ?

Thank you very much.

Sincerely Chaffee One — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chaffee One (talk • contribs) 06:41, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

{{DISPLAYTITLE}} has only a limited number of functions, see Template:DISPLAYTITLE#Description. --David Biddulph (talk) 07:21, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

On the last point, Chaffee One, it is not necessarily the case that you "need to harmonize the DISPLAYTITLE for an article in English and German language". English Wikipedia has a policy on the titles of articles, as does German Wikipedia; but they are not necessarily the same (I haven't read the German one to see). Please study both. --ColinFine (talk) 11:10, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Your attempted "Prof. Dr. habil. Dr. med. h.c. mult. Willi A. Kalender, Ph.D." is the worst violation of WP:TITLESINTITLES I have seen. We only give the actual name in the title. It might be changed from Willi Kalender to Willi A. Kalender if the latter form is more common in reliable sources. Titles are changed by moving the page. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:54, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Re-edit and re-submit a deleted submission

Can anyone tell me how long it takes for a request to have a previously submitted (and subsequently deleted) article re-instated for editing?

I made my request yesterday but haven't heard anything since. Am I being impatient?

Thanks in advance.

Rob — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rob Bolton (talk • contribs) 10:00, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Basil, the Helpdesk's telepathic cat, that helps us know which articles people are talking about, is on holiday at the moment, so if users of the Helpdesk don't tell us, we have to resort to guesses. Do you mean Draft:Jonno Davies? - X201 (talk) 10:18, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Rob Bolton (talk) 10:50, 18 August 2017 (UTC) - You make a fair point X201. Yes, it is indeed Draft:Jonno Davies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rob Bolton (talk • contribs) 10:28, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

• Is Rob Bolton the brother of Chris Bolton whom both appear to be connected to Davco Media which is owned and operated by Ian Davies... who might just be the farther of Jonno Davies perhaps ? He has a son who is an actor as well – although grant you, it may be pure coincidence that he is call Jonno too [3]. @ Rob Bolton. Before going any further please read COI and delcare any COI's on both your talk page an any articles that you have COI relationships with. You are making it more difficult for us to help you and give the right foccused advice as Basil is often on holiday. Aspro (talk) 13:22, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

I've no idea who Chris Bolton is but yes, I am an associate of Davcomedia. However, why would this stop the creation of an entry for Jonno Davies in Wikipedia? Previous submissions have been rejected based on him not being 'notable' enough. With hindsight, those submissions have lacked substance. Since the last one, Jonno Davies' profile has increased significantly. He is about to lead a theatre production of A Clockwork Orange in New York. A quick Google search will show he has had a lot of coverage in respected websites and publications in recent weeks, including Playbill and Broadway World, and he has done several interviews for print media to be published in September. I would have thought this increase in notability with suitable citations would warrant an inclusion in Wikipedia or am I wrong? Rob Bolton (talk) 15:31, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

It doesn't affect his notability, Rob Bolton, but it may affect whether or not you are a suitable person to be writing an article about him. Please see the links that Aspro gave you. --ColinFine (talk) 18:43, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment ColinFine. If I am deemed to have a conflict of interest, what is the way forward with this? Do I approach someone else to write a new submission or is an entry for Jonno Davies now a non-starter? Thanks in advance. Rob Bolton (talk) 20:59, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

@Rob Bolton Thanks for the quick reply. Now to come back to answer the question as to how long will it take. In reality, it is a bit like asking how long is a piece of string. However, since the current draft appears to show notability enough now, I would be willing to move it to main-space if another editors agree. Will also update your talk page for you, to clarify your COI and save you the trouble. Finally... An image to accompany the article would enhance it. As his dad is a photographer, maybe he would like to upload one or two with the copyright license of CC BY SA 4.0 See Commons: Upload. Then place the Wikimedia Commons file name of the image onto to the articles talk page so that it can be added quickly. Important: if the image has already been published, this must be mentioned otherwise it may get flagged as a copyvio and get deleted. Of course, you can do all this for him... but be warned... That will require the submission of OTRS and the backlog for those approvals is currently about 160 days. So go with the flow and keep it simple. Do any editors object or agree to just moving this now to mainspace? Aspro (talk) 21:20, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you Aspro. Much appreciated. I'll await comments from other editors and respect whatever they have to say. Rob Bolton (talk) 21:53, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

There haven't been further comments from other editors Aspro, either for or against. Is it OK for you to put Draft:Jonno Davies back in mainspace now? Apologies if I'm asking in the wrong place. Thanks. Rob Bolton (talk) 18:43, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

FC Utrecht

Hello,

I'm an employee of FC Utrecht B.V.

I like to change the logo of FC Utrecht on the English Wikipedia page to the official FC Utrecht logo. Accept it doesn't work and we as organization need this change for correct logo use.

Greetings, Bas van den Berg — Preceding unsigned comment added by FC Utrecht B.V. (talk • contribs) 10:52, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

@FC Utrecht B.V.: The official FC Utrecht logo was updated. XXN, 19:41, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

New details for Copper Dragon Brewery

Dear Sirs

I have noticed on your pages that Copper Dragon brewery is quoted as being owned by Greyhawk Brewery, this is incorrect. Copper Dragon has moved site and is owned by Steve Taylor. The new address is Unit 9 Lincoln Park, Salthill Industrial Estate, Clitheroe BB7 1QD the telephone number is 01200 613777 Thank you for your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.97.62.216 (talk) 11:13, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

I've copied the above to Talk:Copper Dragon Brewery. Rojomoke (talk) 14:15, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Handling spaces in a URL

Hi guys, sorry to trouble you. The article German World War II camouflage patterns has a note that cites

http://www.dfi.dk/~/media/Danish%20Films/Press%20Material/21356/Into%20Eternity%20CV%20%20filmography%20Michael%20Madsen%20Eng.ashx

which is a working URL when pasted into a browser's address box. However, whether or not the %20 strings are converted into spaces, quoted or not, it doesn't work as a URL in a citation template. I'd be grateful if someone could tell me how to make it work as a link. Many thanks, Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:21, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Would encoding the ~ as %7E fix it? - X201 (talk) 14:37, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Many thanks to David Biddulph for fixing this, all we needed was to sort out a space. Bugs are always invisible to the bugged. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:45, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

2017–18 United States Network Televison Schedule (late night)

Can you move the US Network TV late night article from The Talk page to the Draft article page please. 2600:8803:7A00:976A:7D54:8769:E6A:A070 (talk) 15:13, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Why didn't you answer me a while ago GET YOUR LAZY BUTTS IN GEAR NOW. 2600:8803:7A00:976A:7D54:8769:E6A:A070 (talk) 21:24, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia is entirely run by volunteers, most of whom have jobs or lives outside Wikipedia (or both), and pretty much none of whom respond positively to being shouted it in ALL CAPS. None of us are pad to do this. Unless a post has been unanswered for at least 24 hours, more likely 48, it is not appropriate to complain about the lack of response. There is no deadline. It also helps if you provide a wiki-link to the page or pages you discuss here. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 22:21, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

And exactly what draft page do you want these talk pages moved to? DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 22:33, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

And I'm guessing that you're the same person who keeps on creating material inappropriately on talk pages and demanding that somebody move it for them. Why don't you get your lazy butt in gear and learn how to do it properly? --ColinFine (talk) 00:28, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Content deleted

Hi I'm enquiring about my edit that keeps being deleted if possible could it be kept up it's in honour of 1 of the victims of the Manchester bombing Saffie rose Roussos — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truth8491 (talk • contribs) 16:19, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

@Truth8491: See WP:NOTMEMORIAL. Your first edit was reverted because you added someone who there is no article about. Your next edit was reverted because you just blanked out the January section. There is no article on Saffie rose Roussos. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:24, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Special:NewPages not highlighting

I sometimes use this old page to watch for newly created articles, and today it is not highlighting unreviewed articles as described at the top of the page. Any ideas? Home Lander (talk) 19:00, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

It's phab:T173556. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:57, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks PrimeHunter. Home Lander (talk) 20:03, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Copyright Format

I am currently editing the page of someone who has recently written a book. Here is his page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kohlhase

He has asked me to list the book for him, which I did, but he provided me with a number that he said came from the U.S. Copyright Office. He doesn't have an ISBN number, and he wants me to include this number, but I can't seem to find a parameter for a copyright number. Is there one? How should I list this? Here is what he thought it should look like:

Kohlhase, Charley (2016). The Complete Rocket Scientist; Instant Publishing Company; reg.no. Txu000934567 dated 2/10/2000

I added this to his list of books, but I'm not sure how to add the reg. no. and date.

Let me know if this is possible or if I should ask him for some other information.

Thanks,

Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ideaweb Studios (talk • contribs) 22:29, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Ideaweb Studios. Unfortunately, it seems that Kholhase and you have a very common but erroneous understanding of Wikipedia. He and you have essentially no role in editing Wikipedia's article about him. You (both) should limit yourselves to suggesting changes on the article's talk page: please see conflict of interest for more information.

On the specific subject: if the book has been the subject of published writing by people who have no connection whatever with Kohlhase (such as reviews in prominent newspapers) then it may be appropriate for it to be mentioned in the article. If it hasn't, then it should probably not be mentioned. Information in an article does not come from the subject, but from independent reliably published sources. As for the registered number: if it will help people locate the book, it could be included. There may be a suitable argument in the template {{cite book}}.

One more point: you must change your user name (or abandon that one and create a new one). Usernames are not permitted to suggest that they represent any organisation. --ColinFine (talk) 00:35, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

@ Ideaweb Studios You might start off by asking the author if he has succeeded in selling any copies of this book so far? He may be a rocket scientist but he seems to be stuck at T-43 hours and counting; which is rocket scientist talk meaning that this book is not ready for launch. Putting it in plane English. To achieve T-0 (launch). First: load onboard what ColinFine has said, so as to update your biochemical database (most people have one residing between their two ears). Second: Would you agree that there is little point in writing a book unless the author intends it to be read. Therefore, the launch vehicle needs to have a navigation system capable of getting the payload (book) into an orbit where people can access it. For them to access it, the satellite (book) needs to transmit its whereabouts so that ground stations can home in and lock onto it (find the book - buy it). Satellites use radio beacons and books use ISBN's. This authors book is not required by law to have such a call sign (ISBN) but without such a call sign the book is not added to any Book Lists. Leaving the book to just aimlessly obit until some advanced extraterrestrial race comes across it or more likely re-enter publishing reality and burns up upon its decent. NASA gets billions of tax payers $ whilst we don't as we are all volunteers and you are paid -so you will have to do this yourself. Hope though, that I have encourage you to shoot for the moon. Signing off at T-42:30 hours due to a procedural error that requires the technician to RTFM's - which sparkle all over Wikipedia like a meteor storm on a clear moonless night. Until then, this book will be regarded as vanity press (as of policy) even if the author has enough university degrees to get his next job as a laboratory thermometer. So this is no criticism at all about the credibility of this author! Rather more about the failure of you to follow our guidelines if you want to contribute.Aspro (talk) 13:25, 19 August 2017 (UTC)