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January 30

Referencing errors on Squanto

Reference help requested.

I got a message saying that there is an "unsupported parameter error" on an edit I performed in Squanto. I do not see what the error is. Since there were several reference changes in that edit, could you explain what the bot is pointing to? AnthroMimus (talk) 00:39, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

I think I just resolved it. Sorry for jumping the gun. AnthroMimus (talk) 00:53, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, AnthroMimus (talk) 00:39, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

No such parameter called |piblisher=.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 01:54, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Make images larger?

At User:Bubba73#Historic_places, how can I make the three images of the state of Georgia larger, but side by side? Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 00:50, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Help:Gallery tag#Attributes and values says:

• widths= Image widths in pixels (has no effect if mode is set to packed, packed-overlay, packed-hover, or slideshow)

You can combine mode=packed with heights= instead of widths=. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:28, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Bubba73: For example, you could add: heights="250px" as another "mode" parameter inside the "gallery" tags. More gory details at: WP:Picture_tutorial. DonFB (talk) 02:44, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I think I got it now. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 02:52, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Resolved

Referencing errors on Gurbani Judge

Reference help requested. I was told that there is a format error in a reference I had cited. I don't see the error and would like some help. This is the sixth reference on the Gurbani Judge wiki. Please help. Varunr (talk) 06:57, 30 January 2017 (UTC) Thanks, Varunr (talk) 06:57, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

@Varunr: I've fixed it by adding the missing "http://" at the start of the URL. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:06, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

1932

"This article and its editors are subject to Wikipedia's general sanctions: All edits about, and all pages related to post-1932 politics of the United States and closely related people, are placed under discretionary sanctions. Any uninvolved administrator may levy restrictions as an arbitration enforcement action on users editing in this topic area, after an initial warning."

Why 1932?

Benjamin (talk) 09:38, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

The question is asked and answered at Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American politics 2#1932. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:49, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. Benjamin (talk) 10:07, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

changing logo & editing content

Hello,

I would like to edit this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_Tobacco_Group by adding my company*s new logo and changing the text. I have added text in the back end and for some reason not all the changes have been applied when publish. Please advise.

Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andreayoung (talk • contribs) 10:28, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

The first thing you need to do is to read about conflict of interest and paid editing. I notice also that many of the references which you have recently added are to the company website. Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject has to say about itself; instead, Wikipedia relies on published reliable sources independent of the subject. Where you say "not all the changes have been applied when publish", are you referring to where you have tried to use parameters which don't exist in the relevant infobox template, such as "Traded as" (which is shown as a warning in page preview when you are editing the [page)? You need to remember that in general, page names and parameters in Wikipedia are case sensitive. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:41, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! any advice on changing the logo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andreayoung (talk • contribs) 12:16, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi Andreayoung. If the new version you which to upload is in the same file format and essentially the same as File:Scandinavian Tobacco Group logo.jpg, except smaller in size, cropped, of straightened, etc., then you can simply upload it by going to the file's page and clicking "Upload a new version of this file". If, however, it is significantly different such as different in design, color, file format, etc., then you should upload the new version as a completely new file. You can do this by using Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard. If you're not sure how to do this, you can ask for help at WP:MCQ or WP:FFU. As long as you provide a url for the file so that it can be downloaded and it's copyright status can be verified, then someone at either of those noticeboards should be able to help you or do it for you. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:30, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Updating the logo is the kind of uncontroversial action that you are probably OK doing even with your COI Andreayoung (but you need to make that declaration before you do anything else). Please see WP:LOGOS to understand the background of using non-free logos, and WP:UPI#Updating existing image for the mechanics. You won't be able to do this until your are AUTOCONFIRMED, but that should happen in about nineteen hours.

 --ColinFine (talk) 13:33, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

What is inappropriate about "pinging"?

One editor does not take kindly to being "pinged," as he/she calls it. Every time I discuss something with another editor, i make sure I include his name in full style, i.e User:such-and-such in brackets. It's a standard practice of mine aimed to simply facilitate the reader. My question is, whether this is considered bona fide "pinging" and, if so, whether this would be considered inappropriate or offensive or a type of stalking, harassment, etc. Although, I've been an editor here for a number of years, this is the first time I encounter such a complaint. Thanks in advance. -The Gnome (talk) 12:10, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Actually, when somebody is having an active conservation with someone on some talk page or so they usually watchlist it so that any changes/addition /alteration automatically pops up in front of their eyes.Now, many editors don't like being repeatedly pinged every time one post a reply or opinion in a particular discussion since it clutters the notification box without doing any real good.Also pinging other editors at random without any proper reason can be sometimes considered as disruptive. The best way out is obviouly to not ping the concerned editor any more in that particular discussion. Hope, this satisfies you. Winged Blades ^Godric 13:04, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

W.r.t to the chain of events that led you here, pinging an user three times or so in a single reply esp. when there are multiple active content disputes between you and the user, could be deemed as disruptive.Winged Blades ^Godric 13:43, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Winged Blades. -The Gnome (talk) 22:57, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

• If someone says they don't want to be pinged, don't ping them, it's that simple. If they later fail to answer a question asked on a page where they have posted afterwards, see WP:SILENCE. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 13:27, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Also if you want to link names without pinging someone you can use the {{Noping}} template. - GB fan 15:28, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, GB fan. -The Gnome (talk) 22:57, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

How to go from Draft to published?

I have an entry that is in the draft stage: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:John_Raymond_Snell How do I get it approved for regular viewing? Dale Dailey — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dale Dailey (talk • contribs) 13:15, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Hey Dale Dailey. You can submit your draft for review by a volunteer with our Articles for Creation project, by pasting {{AFC submission}} to the top of the page. This will add the draft to a list of submissions pending review.

However, in its current state, your draft seems unlikely to be accepted because it is almost entirely referenced to the individuals autobiography. In order to show that a subject meets Wikipedia's standards for notability, you need to demonstrate that the subject has received in-depth coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Since an autobiography is written by the subject themselves, it doesn't count as independent. It's still fine to use that as a source for information, but other sources are needed to demonstrate that the subject received sufficient outside attention to qualify for their own article. TimothyJosephWood 13:21, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

I have taken the liberty of tweaking the headings and some layout anomalies more in line with MoS. Now it just needs better referencing as noted by TJW above. Eagleash (talk) 13:31, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Problem with Yotsuya Kaidan page

Someone has gone through the page about Yutsuda Kaidan and changed character names to "lemon." I don't know the story, so I don't know which characters they are supposed to be. Sorry if I am submitting this information in the wrong way, but I can't find the right way to report it. Thanks! --— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.76.14.229 (talk • contribs)

Thanks for pointing this out, IP user. It confused me and (from the history) several other editors. The character's name is "Iemon", starting with a capital "I"! So there's nothing wrong with the article. For future reference, the best place to point out problems in a particular article is on that article's talk page: in this case, Talk:Yotsuya Kaidan. --ColinFine (talk) 13:44, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I thought at first that it was vandalism by a recent couple of IP edits (and undid them). However the page was created a decade ago with the name Lemon. Google reveals this page where the name is also shown as Lemon. (I have undone my edit!). But thanks for pointing this out. Eagleash (talk) 13:46, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

@Eagleash: If you re-read the page to which you gave the link, you'll see that the text of the page has "Iemon", it's in the comments where a number of readers of the page commented that they had misread it as "Lemon". --David Biddulph (talk) 13:58, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

See Yotsuya Kaidan#endnote iemon. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:51, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Yes. I spotted that just too late. Eagleash (talk) 13:56, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Reminds me of how Loituma's song "Ievan polkka" (the first word being the genitive case of a local form of Eva) is sometimes listed as "Levan's polka". —Tamfang (talk) 19:16, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Comic Relief

I submitted a correction to the Comic Relief page yesterday, more accurately reflecting the origins of Comic Relief. All the facts contained therein can be verified. The correction has today been taken down and some inaccurate changes have been made to the existing copy reflecting truer dates, but not those involved, as notified in my submission. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bramwell47 (talk • contribs) 14:15, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

The article Comic Relief has not been edited since January 19th. You added a section to its talk page yesterday; what you added is still there. If you want to make an addition to the article itself, you should include references. Maproom (talk) 14:28, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Problem with the Armenian language code?

According to ISO 3166-1#Current codes, the code for Armenia is 'am' but when used in {{am icon}}, it comes up as 'Amharic', which Google tells me is the official language of Ethiopia. Should I be using some other list for language codes, as opposed to country codes? Thanks, Leschnei (talk) 14:36, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

The header in Category:Language icon templates gives a link to List of ISO 639-2 codes, and the notes on the category page confirm that the codes are not always the same as country codes. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:44, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Ah ha! - that it explains it. Following a few links from Category:Language icon templates led to this, {{link language|arm}}, which works. Thanks for your help, Leschnei (talk) 14:57, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

If you want the equivalent to {{am icon}}, it would be {{hy icon}}. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:05, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

More choices - thanks again Leschnei (talk) 15:54, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Magic link ISBNs

Hi, I'm trying to get to grips with the ISBN magic link & it just does not seem to work for me. I'm typing ISBN[space]978[hyphen]then the rest of the 13 digit code. This does not convert to magic link on saving. Please help - I'm wasting other people's time tidying my work! JasperWare (talk) 16:17, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

It works without the hyphen... ISBN 9783895610349. -- Ed (Edgar181) 16:21, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Magic Links will *eventually* go away. Please use the ISBN template like {{ISBN|193151447X}} which is much superior (and checks your ISBN to make sure that the check digit is valid. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Future_of_magic_links as well. Naraht (talk) 16:23, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

@JasperWare: At Burkhard Spinnen the magic links are not working because they are enclosed in <nowiki>...</nowiki> tags. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:32, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Marking an article as not notable

Hello, how do I mark an article as "not notable"? The article in question is this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickle_(Python) GBMorris (talk) 19:01, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Hey GBMorris. I believe what you are referring to is Template:Notability. TimothyJosephWood 19:18, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

GBMorris One way to solve the problem is to carry out the proposed merge. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:42, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Timothyjosephwood and Dodger67. In general, how can I find pages like the Template:Notability page? The navigation path is not obvious to me... GBMorris (talk) 13:01, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Hey GBMorris. The easiest way to access the most commonly used of the large number (400+) of such templates is to enable semi-automated tagging with Wikipedia:Twinkle. You can read through that linked page for additional information. Twinkle takes a little bit of getting used to, but it makes things much easier.

Other than Twinkle, there is Category:Article message templates, but it doesn't differentiate between the most commonly used templates (probably a few dozen that make up 90%+ of all usage), and ones that may be used rarely or not at all. TimothyJosephWood 13:13, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

I would add though that using these templates doesn't actually solve the problem, and the main effect is to add the page to WP:BACKLOG for someone to fix later. Some of these backlogs are massive, as in tens of thousands of articles, so if the only thing that is done is to add a cleanup template and move on, it could literally be ten years or more until the problem gets fixed. TimothyJosephWood 13:16, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

All very true. I make use of this page when choosing a tag: WP:CLEANUPTAG. DonFB (talk) 13:28, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Hey! There we go. I looked and looked for this and was really surprised I couldn't find anything better than a category. TimothyJosephWood 13:58, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia page for Thomas B. Sheridan

Please add my latest book to my book publication list:

Models of Human-System Interaction: Philosophical and Methodological Consideratons, with Examples, Hoboken NJ, John Wiley, 2017.

Thanks you.

T. Sheridan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.237.235.45 (talk) 20:19, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

 Done You are correct in not editing the article about yourself, Mr Sheridan, because of our "conflict of interest" policy. For any further changes you may wish to suggest to this article, a procedure available for your use is described at this page: Noyster (talk), 22:11, 30 January 2017 (UTC)