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November 18

California counties

Hello,

Is it possible to avoid redirections for "Los Angeles" (seat of the Los Angeles county) and "San Francisco" (county and its seat) in the article List of counties in California?

Thanks

WhatsUpWorld (talk) 02:19, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

@WhatsUpWorld: Assuming you mean that 'Los Angeles, California' redirects to plain 'Los Angeles' then you can just edit the link to point directly to the page. (And same with SF). Eagleash (talk) 02:26, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

I tried and if I had succeeded, I would not ask. It is some kind of automatic redirection I do not understand. That is why I ask for help. WhatsUpWorld (talk) 02:30, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Ah no sorry, missed / forgot how this is done: see Template:Countyrow for more information. Eagleash (talk) 02:42, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Do you mean you want a link to Los Angeles County, California to look like Los Angeles, California? To do that you make the link [[Los Angeles County, California|Los Angeles, California]] using the 'pipe trick'. RJFJR (talk) 17:59, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Until Next Time

Can you Move Until Next Time EP from the talk page to the draft page please. 68.102.39.189 (talk) 02:31, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

 Done Eagleash (talk) 02:45, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Biography

Whenever I write abiography of apersonality or celebrity ,it does not show up on wikipedia and on google search engine ,what can i do to make the biography appear on both wikipedia and google? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.210.146.85 (talk) 05:06, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

To get your biographies to show up in Google, I suggest you publish them elsewhere, because Wikipedia does not accept biographies of most people, but if the person is notable in the Wikipedia sense, that is, you can find information about them in independent WP:Reliable sources, then you should collect the references first, and summarise them in your own words, then create an article in WP:Draft space where we can help you to get the layout correct before publication. If the person is living, then you also need to read WP:Biographies of living persons. It would also help if you would create an account so that we know what subjects you are referring to. Dbfirs 07:51, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

I was told by one of the volunteerer on this page that wikipedia biography does not show up on google search yet whenever i search abig personality on google it show up from en.m.wikipedia.com why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.210.159.15 (talk) 10:21, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

New articles will not be indexed by Google for 90 days (or earlier if they are patrolled). If you tell us what article you are enquiring about we might be able to help more. Dbfirs 13:27, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

HOW TO?

Trying to add a subject to Wikipedia is an INSANE endeavor! I just want more information about "the Amenia Conference." Can somebody please add this subject to Wikipedia? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnsmtv (talk • contribs) 07:29, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Johnsmtv: trying to add a new article is indeed difficult, particularly if you have little previous experience of editing Wikipedia. The Amenia Conference may be a subject that deserves an article: there's a book about it. Maproom (talk) 08:03, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

(edit conflict)There were two of them, 1916 and 1933. Perhaps someone with an interest in these, and access to some references such as the "Encyclopedia of African American History 1896 to the Present" could create an article? We seem to have only a mention in the article on Abram Lincoln Harris, and a listing in Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Dsp13 List/12. Perhaps Duckduckstop or John Carter or Mitchumch might be able to help? Dbfirs 08:18, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Maybe also 1925? Maproom (talk) 08:26, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

I think 1925 was the publication year of the leaflet by Du Bois, but Credo is rather confusing. Dbfirs 09:01, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Inquery

How Can I Put Details Of Acertain Place On Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.210.159.15 (talk) 10:17, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. It's a bit hard to answer, because it's not clear what you mean. If you're wanting to add information to an existing article, that might be quite easy, as you can just edit the article. If you're wanting to create a new article, that's much more difficult, and I'd advise you to start by reading your first article. Either way, please bear in mind that Wikipedia is not interested - not even a little bit - in what you (or I, or any other random person on the Internet) know, or believe, or think: it's only interested in information that has already been published in a reliable place. So, if you're going to add information, you need to start by finding a reliable source - such as a major newspaper or magazine, or a book from a reputable publisher - which gives that information. --ColinFine (talk) 15:15, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Accessibility developments in Wikipedia

Hello. I have an interest in discussing some ideas for improving accessibility for screen reading software on Wikipedia, myself being a user of such software. I am a programmer with web development skills and would be happy to help implement my thoughts if they were approved. I've had a look around, but there seem to be many potential areas to discuss ideas in, the most promising of which seems to be The Village Pump's Technical Section. Could anyone recommend the best place to get braining? Thanks! Axciom (talk) 10:59, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

@Axciom: It depends which type of improvements you have in mind, e.g. to the MediaWiki software which powers Wikipedia, or only to wiki pages at the English Wikipedia. Wikipedia:WikiProject Accessibility has some links and you can try the talk page. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:47, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Mistake

Thuppaki, a highest grosser Tamil film which has collected more than 180 crores in 2012 is not added in the highest Tamil gross movie list — Preceding unsigned comment added by Santhosh Ranjan 9820 (talk • contribs) 17:06, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Santhosh Ranjan, the situation is not totally clear. In the article on Thuppakki there are two sources quoted for total takings: one gives ₹1.8 billion for "domestic" takings (presumably within India), but the other gives a figure of ₹1.21 billion for the whole world. Assessing the reliability of reports on film revenues is often difficult (please see this page for further explanation). If you wish to pursue the matter it may be best to make the case on the talk page of the article you are questioning, or try the relevant WikiProject. Oh, and when starting discussions please link to the articles in question, as I have done here: Noyster (talk), 18:46, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Should my question at the Reference desk be hidden by other editors?

Can I ask there a theoretical question about Canon law, without being hatted, as unfortunately happens again and again to my question?

Indeed, this reference desk does not allow to ask for "legal advice". However, this reference desk does allow to ask theoretical questions not being asked for practical legal purposes - but rather for a comparative research.

I'm conducting a comparative research (about whether the decedent's property should be shared equally - under various legal systems - among grandchildren who are not siblings), and now I'm researching Canon Law (along with some relative legal systems as French / Spanish Law). Unfortunately, some editors suspect I'm trying to receive "legal advice" (even though I'm not), so they are hatting my question. However, I'm not asking for legal advice, nor am I asking lawyers, but rather users who are familiar with Canon law (or with some relative legal systems as French / Spanish Law).

HOTmag (talk) 17:31, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

► The place to discuss this is on Wikipedia talk: Reference desk. —2606:A000:4C0C:E200:C9A:4B44:2E28:1611 (talk) 19:28, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

What to do about user who refuses to use edit summaries?

Ernio48 does not use edit summaries except in rare cases or when the automatic section name is inserted, and responded to my TW notice and polite inquiry with "Leave me alone." Is there anything to be done about this? Thanks. —DIYeditor (talk) 17:32, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Not really. It's a minor issue. It doesn't warrant blocking the user. If you've warned them, and they don't care, I'd just ignore it. :/ CTF83! 20:42, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Try real communication, not just a template. Edit summaries help the rest of us, and are a major convenience in keeping an eye on edits. Just saying... 7&6=thirteen (☎) 22:00, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

How can I know my article is valid with no mistakes

Hi everyone, First of all, thanks for your time reading my inquiry, I need to know how can I know my article is valid with no mistakes, I can't find a proper guide to follow. the article is about a company, I want it to be published by the company name, is that possible from a personal profile to do ? I have all the authorization to publish, I am the Marketing Manager of the company. And how to add the an info box to my article in the right with the logo in PNG format ? Ayah Osama (talk) 19:39, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Please do not waste volunteers time by asking the same question both here and at the WP:Teahouse - Thank you - Arjayay (talk) 19:42, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Ayah Osama. Since I am an administrator, I can read your deleted sandbox draft, which was completely unacceptable for this encyclopedia. It was written in the first person plural, "We do this" and "we do that". The language was overtly promotional, praising the company and its services. Wikipedia is a neutral encyclopedia and companies are not allowed to submit marketing brochures or "profiles" masquerading as articles. Start by reading about conflict of interest and fully complying with our policies on paid editing. Then study the neutral point of view until you understand it thoroughly. Go on to read Your first article and use the Articles for creation process if you want to start all over and try to write a real encyclopedia article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:13, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref

Experienced: “A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref>A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref>” at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Cite_errors/Cite_error_included_ref#Technical and cannot correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:5B0:44C6:4CD8:C8C0:829A:6FED:23DB (talk) 20:44, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

 Fixed You were just missing the </ref> CTF83! 20:46, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

7 yr. old boy who has a rare case of cancer

I was reading about a little boy who has cancer. He has been told that he won't live to see Christmas. So his family will celebrate it early. He loves Penguins & all he wants for Christmas is people to draw him pictures. In the pictures he always has a smile on his face. My heart just broke when I read his story. My grandsons would like to draw him some pictures. I had the address & his name wrote down and I lost it. Can you please let me know if you are able to find this story. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.181.85.9 (talk) 21:05, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

This page is for asking questions about how to use Wikipedia. You can try asking on the Reference Desk or try a search service such as Google to find what you are looking for. RudolfRed (talk) 21:09, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I think I found the story you were looking at: see here. As RudolfRed noted, this help desk is generally for asking questions about Wikipedia itself. For unrelated reference questions in the future, use our Reference Desk instead. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 21:31, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Found many results here. Also posted at the IP talk page. Eagleash (talk) 21:33, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Excellent, thanks Eagleash! To add to what I said earlier, I think it's awesome that she and her grandsons are doing this, and we shouldn't let rules get in the way of helping her. Mz7 (talk) 21:40, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Where to ask for assistance with possible copyright issue?

In the article Don Gregorio Antón, all of the images are listed as Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International, with the source as 'own work'. However, the images all come from published works, like journals or interviews, which suggests to me that those sources may have some rights. I don't know enough about copyright to determine for myself whether these images are OK. Is there somewhere to list possibly-problematic images, as there is for possible vandalism? Leschnei (talk) 21:18, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

@Leschnei: A good place to ask about copyright is at WP:MCQ. RudolfRed (talk) 21:20, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, that's just what I was looking for! Leschnei (talk) 21:39, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

What is special about the Teahouse question button?

I was looking through all the different options available under preferences, and one of the preferences is "Enable the Teahouse "Ask a question" feature". However, there are not similar preference options for the Help Desk ask question button or the button for the Reference Desk. My question is, what is different about the Teahouse ask a question button that requires there to be a preference to turn it off and on? RudolfRed (talk) 21:24, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: To see how it looks, you can try it for yourself: switch on the gadget in your preferences, bypass your cache, then navigate to the Teahouse and click the ask button.

It's mainly there for historical purposes, as I understand it. For the help desk and the reference desks, you can ask new questions by simply creating a new section header at the bottom of the page. Nowadays, this is also the case at the Teahouse, but historically, new questions at the Teahouse were actually added to the top of the page, not the bottom. As a result, we couldn't just use MediaWiki's native "new section" functionality, which by default posts to the bottom. Instead, someone built a script to allow the "Ask a question" button to post new questions to the top. Then, at this discussion earlier this year, there was a consensus among Teahouse hosts to switch to the bottom-posting you see today. The "Ask a question" button was updated to accompany this, but nowadays we can just fall back to the MediaWiki "new section" button if you don't like it, which is why there's a preference to turn it off. Hope this helps, Mz7 (talk) 21:51, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

@Mz7: The preference was already checked, so the button was there. Unchecking the preference and purging the cache makes no difference, the button remains, so I'm not sure what this preference does now. Thank you for the reply, I appreciate the info. Also, the Teahouse page has no "New Section" link.RudolfRed (talk) 22:58, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

If you have working JavaScript in your browser and account then clicking the button gives a different way to ask a question when the preference is enabled. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:26, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! I had completely misunderstood what the preference was trying to do. RudolfRed (talk) 01:02, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

2019 NHL Winter Classic

Can you move the 2019 NHL Winter classic article from the Talk Page to the draft page please. 68.102.39.189 (talk) 22:45, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

 Done Please can you use either WP:WIZ or WP:DRAFTS#Creating and editing drafts to create drafts in future. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 23:18, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

An Article About the Tribe of Hawazin

Hello Mr./Ms. Reader,

I'm adding valuable information for prosperity to a tribe that I represent. I'm adding references, but the changes keep on reverting back. Please help me make the changes permanent.

Respectfully, Dawi HQ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dawihq (talk • contribs) 23:03, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

The reversion was done by a bot (ClueBot NG) here as "possible vandalism" -- which doesn't necessarily mean that your edits were vandalism, just that something triggered the bot. In the article's history, the bot's edit summary includes a link where you can report false positives. I hope this helps. —2606:A000:4C0C:E200:C9A:4B44:2E28:1611 (talk) 23:17, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Also, if this is for a tribe you represent, you need to follow the instructions at WP:PAID.Naraht (talk) 01:49, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

And, ClueBot put a note on your talk page. —2606:A000:4C0C:E200:C9A:4B44:2E28:1611 (talk) 02:40, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Dawihq. Looking at your edits to Hawazin, it is clear that they are in good faith , and Cluebot was wrong in thinking they were vandalism. I don't know what algorithm ClueBot uses to detect vandalism, but I am sure that it would help if you gave an edit summary when you change an article, explaining what change you are making. --ColinFine (talk) 13:07, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Meghan Markle

Please help - I have failed with the upload of a pic/file. Ancestry section - The one I had success with is too big - please make the "lady" one smaller. Thanks 101.189.107.58 (talk) 23:29, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

This seems to have been fixed already – can you check if the picture still appears too big on your side? –FlyingAce^✈hello 16:01, 20 November 2017 (UTC)