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October 16

Thomas Fitzmaurice (MP)

I have added a file (pic of an historic house) which has FAILED - ref number 1. Please fix if able Thanks 203.132.68.1 (talk) 00:02, 16 October 2017 (UTC).

I have fixed it.[1] See Help:Files#Using files. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:45, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Thomas Fitzmaurice (MP)

I have FAILED again! "Later life" section - I failed when adding the pic of Cliveden from that page's info box - to the above page. Thanks 203.132.68.1 (talk) 00:52, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

I fixed that one [2] – the page does not have an infobox, like the one at Cliveden. Pictures are added differently in infoboxes than they are in articles, which is why copying the code across does not work. You would use the same file name (File:Cliveden-2382.jpg), but add it using the method at the link PrimeHunter left above, Help:Files#Using files, so it ends up looking like [[File:Cliveden-2382.jpg|thumb|caption]]. Regards, Dairy {talk} 01:36, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

how do I find the most edited articles? or the most discussed articles?

is there any feature at Wikipedia that would enable me to find the articles that are currently getting the most edits, the most discussion, or both, or any variation thereof? thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 02:58, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello Sm8900, this might assist you: User:DataflowBot/output/Top 20 enwiki articles by edits and editors in past 7 days (id-1). Warmly. Lourdes 03:16, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

hi. thanks so much! that's very helpful. by the way, is this info listed anywhere for other users to receive? If not, perhaps I might add this great information to one or more help pages here?

I really appreciate your help, Lourdes. thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 14:26, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome Sm8900. This database report is communicated to all editors who subscribe to the Wikipedia Signpost, in the Traffic section. For example, Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2017-09-25/Traffic report, contains adaptations from the Wikipedia:Top 25 Report statistics page. Hope this helps. Lourdes 16:19, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Database reports/Talk pages by size shows the largest talk pages including archives but it's a total and not current activity. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:33, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

How to write about missing(Our) Place?

Dear all,

How to write about missing(Our) Place ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.196.67.170 (talk) 04:04, 16 October 2017‎ (UTC)

• Hello. Your question is unclear. Would you be able to provide clarification on what exactly do you wish help on? If you want to start an article about a missing place, you should first read Wikipedia's notability guidelines about geographical places (the criteria that places have to meet in order to be included in Wikipedia). Once you're confident that your place meets Wikipedia's geographical notability requirements, then you can read up on how to create your first article. Of course, if you were enquiring about something else, please feel free to ask for assistance again with a clearer question. Thanks. Lourdes 07:49, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

hi are you referring to Our Place (organization)? --Sm8900 (talk) 02:27, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Biography Page

Hi, I want to submit a new Biography on "Deborah Mayo", a very talented Theatre practitioner at SUNY Stonybrook. How do I go about submitting it to you and uploading pictures? Thank you. --Maryunny (talk) 13:45, 16 October 2017 (UTC)MARY S UNNY

Hello, Maryunny. Your use of the word "submit" suggests to me that you have a (very common) misunderstanding of how Wikipedia works. The activity here is not "submitting material" but "writing articles" according to Wikipedia's policies and practices. If you have preexisting text, whatever purpose it was created for, it is unlikely to be suitable for a Wikipedia article. In the first place, if it has already been published anywhere, then its copyright status is probably not acceptable to Wikipedia (it needs to be explicitly licensed in a way that will allow anybody to reuse it for any purpose, commercial or not). Secondly, Wikipedia's requirements for neutrality and sourcing do not match most other places. Wikipedia is not interested in what you know (or what I know), and it has hardly any interest in what the subject says, or what their friends or associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject have chosen to publish about them in reliable sources. Any article should be nearly 100% based on such independent sources - and if there are not sufficient independent sources to ground an article, then no article is possible: the Wikipedia jargon for that is that the subjdect is not notable.

Pictures are another issue. Sourcing is not a problem, but copyright is. With certain exceptions (which almost never apply in respect of living subjects) all images used must likewise be explicitly licensed in a way acceptable to Wikipedia.

I suggest that you study Your first article, and go from there. Note that if you are connected with Mayo, then you also need to be aware of our policies on editing with a conflict of interest. --ColinFine (talk) 15:47, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

As an Associate Professor and Director of Undergraduate Studies in the theater department, she may not meet our standards of notability for academics. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:40, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Named ref undefined errors using {{r}}

Re: Bob's Big Boy, I added several refs using {{r}} – citing in the reflist. Excepting the first such listed ref, I'm getting named ref invoked but never defined errors I can't resolve. (I don't believe the added {{free access}} tags should cause this.) Thank you. — βox73 (৳alk) 19:22, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

@Box73: Fixed with this edit. The error messages weren't particularly helpful in this case. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:26, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

@John of Reading: That's some fast response. Thanks! — βox73 (৳alk) 19:55, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

References formatting and clickable sourcing

Hello,

I am new to editing and publishing in wikipedia. I uploaded and then formatted from word&endnote document. I did not put my sources in the reference section using the easy to use enter data into boxes section, but rather formatted into html from the document I had to save time. The problem that I am having is, when I go to make the title to the section clickable and linked to it's digital source, it only worked for the first source in the reference list and not in the ones there after. When I use the same format for the exact same references in the text of the body, it does work. So it appears that it is isolated to the reference section, perhaps being formatted from endnote and word presenting a problem. Does anyone happen to know some way to bypass this problem and get my links to work in the reference section??

Thank you so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christina.Dee.Harrison (talk • contribs) 19:47, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

You need to read WP:Referencing for beginners. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:41, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

How to find all articles which link to a specific webpage?

For example, if I want to find all articles which link to "www.somewhere.com/somepage". I used Google and "www.somewhere.com/somepage site:en.wikipedia.org", but it can't find all of them, especially when that specific URL used in citation templates. Google can find bare URLs but not all cited URLs. --Wario-Man (talk) 20:12, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

@Wario-Man: Have you tried Special:LinkSearch? -- John of Reading (talk) 20:29, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

@John of Reading: Thanks you very much. It works like a charm. --Wario-Man (talk) 04:12, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

hi @John of Reading:, @Wario-Man:; sorry, i am trying to use that feature. it only brought up three results for external pages linked to wikipedia, and none at all for articles I tried. can you please tell me the Wikipedia articles for you which you were able to find external pages linked to those article(s)? thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 17:28, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

@Sm8900: I'm not sure I've understood what you are trying to do. Special:LinkSearch finds links from Wikipedia to external sites. For example, it shows that these Wikipedia pages link to cartoons at the www.xkcd.com website. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:46, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Problems using foreign WP img

For some reason the EN WP is not displaying this image https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9E%C9%99kil:Ammonius_sakkas.jpg Why? Should be added to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonius_Saccas Thanks. prokaryotes (talk) 21:56, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

To use an image in the English Wikipedia it needs to be uploaded either to the English Wikipedia or to Wikimedia Commons. What is the copyright status of the image? --David Biddulph (talk) 22:00, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Hey prokaryotes. I have now transferred the image to commons. See File:Ammonius sakkas.jpg. GMG^talk 22:15, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

While copyright is unclear this historic image seems to fall under expired. Thank you GreenMeansGo prokaryotes (talk) 22:25, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Assuming the information on the source is correct, which at this point is the best information we have, PD-old-assumed is actually... adorable... in that it takes it as a "reasonable assumption" that the original author is dead. I'd say that's more than reasonable! (There unfortunately is no template for PD-old-2000, for works of art that are 2000 years old.) GMG^talk 22:42, 16 October 2017 (UTC)