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August 17

JSTOR Access

Does anyone have access to JSTOR? I am trying to get this article (https://www.jstor.org/stable/3415336?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents) for a page that I am working on. Thanks. //nepaxt 00:51, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi //nepaxt, please send me a wikimail and I’ll reply with the paper. Hint: for future requests, there’s WP:RX. Cheers ✦ _hugarheimur 01:18, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! //nepaxt 01:24, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Nepaxt, if you need access to JSTOR more often, you might want to apply for a free account via the Wikipedia Library. The JSTOR page shows that no accounts are available now, but you could get on a waiting list. Eddie Blick (talk) 23:54, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

KHAWAJA REAZUDDIN ATASH

Hi, I noticed that the page that I had created and maintained for the last several years has been removed! The name of the page was "Khawaja Reazuddin Atash". Atash was a popular Urdu poet and writer. All the information provided about his life and accomplishments were true and informative. Can you please let me know what was the reason the page was removed and who initiated the process? Why was the page not considered worthy of Wikipedia? You may send your response to <redacted>. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fkhawaja (talk • contribs) 01:01, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Fkhawaja! What happened is an editor didn't think that the article met our notability guidelines, so decided to nominate it for deletion. The type of deletion process that was chosen was Articles for deletion, a process usually lasting 1 or 2 weeks but will rarely go for 4 or more weeks, where multiple users can discuss whether they think the article in question is suitable for Wikipedia, usually based off of the notability guidelines. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khawaja Reazuddin Atash is the venue where the deletion discussion for this specific article was held. Several users participated, and because the consensus seemed to be to delete the article, an administrator deleted it. I hope this helps clarify things, and if you have any more questions, don't hesitate to ask.--SkyGazer 512 ^{Oh no, what did I do this time?} 01:09, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Harry Levy-Lawson, 1st Viscount Burnham

I cannot see clearly on my device - please correct re number 11 - it is in red. Sorry 203.132.68.1 (talk) 02:43, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

 Done Eagleash (talk) 03:13, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

amitor

Amitor was created by Tom Hufford and Dianne Kisselberg to develop a word that expresses nonviolence. The word comes from the word Amigo or friend in English and to powerful ending, Amitor is accepted by many people throughout the United States. It has not been accepted by the noraal dictionaries, but we cannot determine why it has not — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.169.34.64 (talk) 03:38, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

See WP:Neologisms. Unless there's professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources discussing the history and use of the word, it's not getting an article. Ian.thomson (talk) 03:52, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Transwiki notification

I received a notification to go to a page titled exactly "Community Tech/Newsletters/Commons notification bot and SVG translate - August 2018" on another wiki. I thought it was from meta wiki I copied the page name and posted directions to it on several important en talk pages. The link I posted goes nowhere, meta wiki does not find the title. It must be somewhere else but my notification has also disappeared so I can't trace it. How do I find the notification and correct this link? Trackinfo (talk) 04:45, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

• Trackinfo, have you asked about this at Meta Community Tech talk page or at Meta Commons deletion notification bot talk page or at Meta SVG translation page? Warmly, Lourdes 17:25, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes and I received an answer. Trackinfo (talk) 21:04, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Bravissimo company page

Hi, I work for Bravissimo and am trying to update our page but my edits are being reverted. Please can you tell me why? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bravissimo_(company) LoveBravissimo (talk) 12:07, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

LoveBravissimo I don't know why the editor who reverted your edits did so, but I would have done the same. Your edits were not supported by citations, and could not be verified. We need independent, reliable sources for our articles. Please note that as an employee of the company, you must comply with our policy on paid contribution. --Vexations (talk) 12:37, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your info. I did have links for everything I posted. None of them were links to our own company website, therefore were independent. Why could these not be verified? For example, I've tried to update the number of shops and employees that we have to give you more accurate information - how can I get these updated? — Preceding unsigned comment added by LoveBravissimo (talk • contribs) 12:44, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

You were reverted due to the fact you work for the company (IE your changes were IMHO on the promotional side), As per WP:COI you should refrain from editing the article and use the talkpage. –Davey2010^Talk 12:49, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks so much for clarifying - could you tell me why I can't update the factual information such as the number of employees or shops? I can't see how these can result in a COI. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by LoveBravissimo (talk • contribs) 13:05, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

I know you've been open about the edits and who you work for, but I need to point out that your username is in violation of Wikipedia's policy. See WP:ORGNAME - X201 (talk) 13:34, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

If I change my username, can I update our page? Even though this seems less transparent and honest IMHO! — Preceding unsigned comment added by LoveBravissimo (talk • contribs) 13:43, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

No, you should not edit the article directly, but you can make suggestions on the talk page. Please do provide references, even for simple factual changes like the number of employees or the number of stores. Practical advice applicable to your situation is available at Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide --Vexations (talk) 14:02, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

I've blocked LoveBravissimo as a username violation, although since he or she been transparent, I've not prevented account creation. I've also posted an advisory that there is a mandatory requirement to post the {{Paid}} template on the user page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:03, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Does nationality need to be verified?

Hello, Could I ask if the nationality of a biographical subject needs to be verified? I've tried googling this and reading various Wikipedia pages, but I can't find the answer. I had always assumed that it didn't, but the nationality of a subject has been removed as unsubstantiated. Thanks very much for your expertise! Srsval (talk) 12:35, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

• Everything needs to be verifiable. Things that others have removed as unsubstantiated need to be verified (i.e. you need to provide a citation). – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:50, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

No reason why it shouldn't. However, if there's no sources that disagree, you may "get away" with using something selfpublished (like Facebook or Twitter) per WP:SELFSOURCE. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:30, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Dragon boat

In the Dragon boat article, why is the caption on the dragon boat drummer photo in bold? †dismas†|^(talk) 12:58, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

There was a ; in front of the file link, I have removed it here. DuncanHill (talk) 13:03, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

the WIKI Page: Sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic Archdiocese of Philadelphia

I think someone needs to go and freeze the information on this page and start doing a great deal of fact-checking.

Already, some of the information is not being reported accurately from the Grand Jury report -- OR, people are going in and editing/changing the data, misrepresenting a lot of the numbers and information.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_abuse_scandal_in_the_Catholic_Archdiocese_of_Philadelphia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.74.231.177 (talk) 16:10, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Publishing

Now that I have my article ready, how do I submit it for review so that it can go public? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brownca1 (talk • contribs) 16:19, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

@Brownca1: You're really going to want to start over before asking anyone to review it. As it is, it's a PR piece, which we don't allow. Here's what you should do:

1) Choose a topic whose notability is attested by discussions of it in several reliable independent sources.

2) Gather as many professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources you can find.

3) Focus on just the ones that are not dependent upon or affiliated with the subject, but still specifically about the subject and providing in-depth coverage (not passing mentions). If you do not have at least three such sources, the subject is not yet notable and trying to write an article at this point will only fail.

4) Summarize those sources from step 2, adding citations at the end of them. You'll want to do this in a program with little/no formatting, like Microsoft Notepad or Notepad++, and not in something like Microsoft Word or LibreOffice Writer.

5) Combine overlapping summaries (without arriving at new statements that no individual source supports) where possible, repeating citations as needed.

6) Paraphrase the whole thing just to be extra sure you've avoided any copyright violations or plagiarism.

7) Use the Article wizard to post this draft and wait for approval.

8) Expand the article using sources you put aside in step 2 (but make sure they don't make up more than half the sources for the article, and make sure that affiliated sources don't make up more than half of that).

Doing something besides those steps typically results in the article not being approved, or even in its deletion. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:24, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Uploading a Page on Wikipedia

Dear Sir or Madam;

I have created a page on wikipedia, have edited a couple of times and uploaded but it still does not come up in a general search.

This is the link info: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Abdelbens&oldid=855366539

Can you please guide me on how to continue the process.

thanks

Ben — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdelbens (talk • contribs) 19:45, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

User pages, such as yours, User:Abdelbens are intended to facilitate communication between editors. They are not part of the encyclopedia and are not indexed by search engines. If you want to publish the article, you have to move it to Hind Arroub You may want to consider working on it a bit more, move it User:Abdelbens/sandbox or Draft:Hind Arroub instead and then submit it to the Articles for Creation, by adding the code {{subst:submit}} to the top of the draft or sandbox page. You may want to read Wikipedia:Your first article. Vexations (talk) 20:07, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

I moved it to Draft:Hind Arroub; but it's going to need a lot before it becomes even remotely acceptable. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:10, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Parts of the article look like they have been copied: Notice the similarities between the draft article and https://aims.cmes.yale.edu/participants here for example: [1]. We take copyright violations very seriously. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vexations (talk • contribs) 21:30, 17 August 2018 (UTC)