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May 13

History of a merged article?

Hi. After a merge and deletion of the original article (Hollywood Medium with Tyler Henry), is there any way to see the edit history of that now deleted article? RobP (talk) 00:56, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Yes {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 02:02, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

New article

How do I create a new subject on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:647:5803:DD19:45F:87C3:CF85:9425 (talk) 01:37, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

You should start with this help page and the use the Article Wizard. You should also read the Core Content Policies and Notabilty guidelines. I hope this helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 02:26, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Edit war on Tea Tree Oil

Another editor keeps reverting my changes without giving a reason. The sentence in question is heavily biased and not supported by many of the links on the page. There is in fact some medical research by government bodies in Australia, New Zealand and the United States that supports the use of tea tree oil in curing topical conditions. The way I have written it I believe reflects this point of view. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonnycash11 (talk • contribs) 13:12, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Jonnycash11. Your next step is to start a discussion with Roxy the dog at Talk:Tea tree oil. If you can't come to an agreement, consider asking for input at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine, since the topic involves human health. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:10, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

not true. I did give a reason, to whit, “to good” -Roxy, the dog. barcus+

Hardly. In addition, you're reaching the 3RR limit (first revert notwithstanding [1]); and "to good" (twice) is not a sufficient summary explanation as it is vague and confusing. You did not respond on your last summary reversion. I agree with Gråbergs Gråa Sång, bring it to the Talk Page, Jonnycash11, invite Roxy, the dog. and obtain consensus if you can through reliable sources: "Studies cited in the in the fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh citations suggest the benefits of using tea tree oil. The sentence changed showed bias not supported by the literature". Not sure just who exactly is 180.169.46.238 is, and the connection with your edits, Jonny, but I'll let that go for now. Maineartists (talk) 15:41, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Maineartists I'm not so good with HTML, so apologies for any formatting errors. Anyways, that edit from earlier was mine, I forgot to log in on my work computer.Jonnycash11 (talk) 03:45, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

There is nothing wrong with my edsums. Also, learn to assess 3RR correctly in future, before making statements per above. -Roxy, the dog. barcus 15:55, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Roxy the dog I have no idea what you mean by "to good". What do you mean by that? Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:58, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

It obviously means that the page has been corrected "to good". Keep up. -Roxy, the dog. barcus 16:01, 13 May 2018 (UTC)"

With all due respect, your brusque response and lack of civil correspondence is not making advocates to your case. Might you explain what I'm missing in WP:3RR that would disqualify the above statement? Maineartists (talk) 16:20, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Well, you can count up to 3, I'll give you that, but you appear to have forgotten the time constraints of edit wars. -Roxy, the dog. barcus 15:42, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Gråbergs Gråa Sång, Maineartists I can go through the motions of Talking with Roxy, but given his responses here and elsewhere I don't think it's going to go very far. If talk fails, what are we supposed to do? Again, the edits I'm making are supported by peer-reviewed literature which are cited in the article.Jonnycash11 (talk) 03:45, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

If talk fails, continue on the road of Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. Assume that you both want the article to be as good as it can be. Note also that Roxy's last edit was reverted. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:57, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Jonnycash11 At least you have this discussion thread for reference. Good luck. Maineartists (talk) 12:08, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Yes, good luck. -Roxy, the dog. barcus 12:30, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Query

How can I transclude a Wikinews article in an Wikipedia page? Harsh Rathod Poke me! 16:29, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Harshrathod50. You can't. Transclusion is not possible between Wikimedia projects, except for the special case of resources from Commons. In any case, I wonder why you should want to do so? Wikinews has different purposes and criteria from Wikipedia and it seems unlikely to me that material from one would be acceptable in the other. In particular, every single claim in a Wikipedia article should be sourceable to a reliable published source - which does not include a user-generated site such as Wikinews. --ColinFine (talk) 16:49, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

@ColinFine: Okay, I will execute plan B then, if possible. Was just curious if anything as such was possible. Harsh Rathod Poke me! 16:56, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Celebrity Information and Verified Content

Hi,

I represent the technical interests of an actor and currently their information is a bit light on, and some not 100% correct on Wikipedia. Is there a way to become "Verified" so that when we updated that page it becomes the source of the truth?

Kind Regards, Dylan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.45.206.116 (talk) 20:28, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

To start off with, you should create an account (although this isn't required, it helps significantly, especially with the following requirements) and read WP:COI and WP:PAID - in this case, you are required to declare that you are a paid editor. Two of Wikipedia's major policies are that content must be from a neutral point of view and verifiable (i.e., citing reliable sources, not only using your personal knowledge. If you do declare that you're a paid editor (see above), you can technically edit that actor's (which actor is this?) page, however it is strongly recommended that you instead make use of edit requests (which are explained further on that page, but are basically you saying "I want to change X to Y" on the article's talk page). LittlePuppers (talk) 20:39, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Dylan, you are I think making the assumption that information in Wikipedia can come from the subject of an article or their associates. This assumption is reasonable if you are unfamiliar with how Wikipedia works, but it is completely wrong. Wikipedia has very little interest in what the subject of an article (or their associates) say about themselves, and no interest at all in how they wish to be portrayed. Wikipedia is only interested in material which has been published in a reliable source, and preferably a source unconnected with the the subject. --ColinFine (talk) 23:40, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Dakota, Minnesota and Eastern Railroad had/has some weird issues.

Hi,

While i was improving the D&ME article, it wouldn’t let me edit the subparagraph name, and it kept glitching and not allowing me to add a name, and it kept making lines with empty spaces. After i kept saving and redoing it, it finally worked, but a letter was stuck in front of the name (it was an R) and when i tried to delete it, it literally glitched and the paragraph went nuts, it now had bullets, and the links turned into snowmen emoji for some reason. I immediately reverted it (keep in mind im using mobile to do this) but i just thought i’d ask somebody what even happened. You can check out the the Dakota, Minnesota and Eastern edit log and see the one where i reverted it, thats the one it went nuts. Thanks, XXCooksterXx (talk) 22:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

The "nuts" version looks fine to me, with no snowmen etc. I suspect the problems were all within your mobile. Maproom (talk) 06:57, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

@XXCooksterXx and Maproom: I do see a few issues, perhaps something with the visual editor (look at this revision in the paragraph before the references)? LittlePuppers (talk) 16:40, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

You're right. I see pairs of what I now realise are snowmen there. To me, at that size, each pair looks more like a bicycle ☃☃. Maproom (talk)

XXCooksterXx Can you reproduce this bug at all if you try doing what you were doing before again? Also, which mobile OS and browser are you using? Richard⁰⁶¹² 17:42, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

I use iphone 6 with the latest IOS system update. I use the safari app but search through google. I will try to replecate it, could somebody make a copy of the page so i dont have to keep glitching the real thing? XXCooksterXx^{❯❯❯ talk?} 23:59, 14 May 2018 (UTC) I may have found the issue/ an issue related to this. When trying to create a subparagraph with (==) text (==) ( remove the ()’s) on mobile, it will not allow you to put a name in, instead it creates a new line before it and places whatever you tried to write there. Sometimes, this goes as far as not letting you to be able to type the name in of the subparagraph at all. Ill update this if i find anything else.XXCooksterXx^{❯❯❯ talk?} 00:48, 15 May 2018 (UTC)