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September 15

Gradually Shrinking Talk Page

This is a two-part question.

I am trying to leave a message on the talk page of a user, User talk:Thesurveyor. I see that they have been receiving newsletters from the Military History project. However, there apparently was a bug or misfeature in previous editions of The Bugle, so that each one would reduce the displayed font size to 85%, and then did not reset it, and this gradually causes their talk page to shrink. Each copy of the notice down-sized the font to 85%, and didn't resize it. This continued to decrease exponentially until they stopped getting The Bugle. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:42, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

First, what can anyone do to restore the display to normal size? At this point, after several of these newsletters have shrunk the display and not re-enlarged it, I can't read anything without viewing raw text. Second, where is there a list of all of the html commands, since it is an html command that is causing the text to shrink, and at some time in the past the MilHist project was forgetting to turn it off at the end of their notice? Robert McClenon (talk) 02:42, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

I think I have fixed it ([1]). Not sure if this counts as lint error, as the previous software probably did not have this display problem. Alex Shih (talk) 02:51, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

I have posted a general request at Wikipedia:Bot requests#Bot to fix old newsletters changing font-size. It probably looked right before the software change at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 167#My page is recently broken and I can't figure out why. Such errors are usually caused by tags being unclosed, or closed in the wrong order. Help:HTML in wikitext shows many html commands. Each opening <tagname> should be closed with </tagname> where tagname can be many things and you don't actually have to know them to see errors. The last tag to be opened should be closed first. In this case, <span style="font-size: 85%;"><center>...</span></center> should have been <span style="font-size: 85%;"><center>...</center></span>. Some tags are selfclosing with <tagname /> where the slash is at the end. Selfclosing tags don't come in pairs with an opening and closing tag. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:49, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

False information on "Jair Bolsonaro" articles.

EN: The information that is contained in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jair_Bolsonaro, is too distorted and the sources of such information are to a large extent, fake news spreaders. Who edited the article in this way, clearly is an opponent who did it in order to denigrate it.

PT-BR: As informações que estão contidas em https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jair_Bolsonaro, estão demasiadamente distorcidas e as fontes de tais informações são de grande parte, sites espalhadores de "fake news". Quem editou o artigo deste modo, claramente é um oponente que fez isso afim de denegri-lo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesawp1 (talk • contribs) 04:52, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

• Discuta isso na página de discussão do artigo. There are many editors active on the article's talk page, and you can request discussion on this issue by opening up a new talk page section there. If you face any further issues, feel free to come back here. Warmly, Lourdes 05:43, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Getting help on wikitables

I'm having troubles with a wikitable not cooperating, and I've tried to use other "Help" pages on wikipedia to fix it, but can't seem to do it. Is there a place where I can ask other editors to take a second look at thing and ask for human help? Nobreadsticks (talk) 12:24, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

@Nobreadsticks: This page is a good place to ask for help. I wonder why you didn't just do that. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:33, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Nobreadsticks I'm generally not a fan of Visual Editor, however it can be quite helpful on many kinds of table edits. Alsee (talk) 09:00, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Alsee Thanks for the tip, but I still couldn't figure it out. The table I'm looking at is in this section. The problem is the extra cell that appears at the bottom. If I delete it, the rows above become formatted weird, and remove to of the columns of info. Nobreadsticks (talk) 10:53, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

@Nobreadsticks: Sortable tables sometimes have issues with rowspan and colspan. It works if sortable is removed or if the last row has | instead of !. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:21, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: ah, ok thanks for the tip. That table didn't need to be sortable anyways! Nobreadsticks (talk) 11:27, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Categories at the bottom of the page that can't be changed with HOTCAT- How can they be changed?

For instance, Steelstown GAC, which has 1- Gaelic Athletic Association clubs established in the 1980s, 2- 1987 in Gaelic games, and 3- Gaelic Athletic Association clubs established in 1987. To make a long story short(#3 IS is a subcategory of #1 and #1 is subcategory of #2} , it is overcategorized. How and where can this be fixed?...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 13:18, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

They're added by the template {{Infobox GAA club}}, in particular the founded= value. Nanonic (talk) 13:23, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

@WilliamJE: If categories are not declared in the bottom of the source then they are usually added by templates and cannot be removed by HotCat. You have to find the right template and a way to prevent it from adding the category. In this case, the undocumented | nocat = true in {{Infobox GAA club}} will work. Some templates have no nocat parameter. See more at Wikipedia:Category suppression. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:28, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

If redundant categories are added by a template then the template itself needs to be fixed. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:01, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Page views analysis

I am writing to ask if you know of a page view analysis search engine available on the web somewhere along the lines of the following: <https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=all-agents&range=all-time&pages=Richard_Pipes%7CMarc_Raeff%7CStephen_Kotkin%7CYuri_Slezkine>, which goes back further than 2015. I am doing a comparative analysis of various Russian historians I would like to track their impact on the field in various ways. Do you have any ideas about how to do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.116.8.130 (talk) 15:20, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Amy Wadge

Hi There I am trying repeatedly to contribute to my wikipedia page as the current information is not up to date - I have edited a number of times only to find it's removed later - I am trying to add co writes and new information. I have received a message - Hello, I'm Jessicapierce. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Amy Wadge have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help Desk. Thanks. Jessicapierce (talk) 00:19, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

As I am actually Amy Wadge I don't understand why i'm not allowed to add to the page under the grounds of it now being constructive ? Please could you advise what i should do ? my profile is Jenki1975

Thanks

Amy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jenki1975 (talk • contribs) 15:50, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Jenki1975 Please confirm your identity with Wikipedia by emailing the address located in the paragraph that this link takes you to. We have no way of knowing you are who you say you are without that. After that, please review the policy on autobiographies, written at WP:AUTO. In general, you should not edit the article about yourself directly. You should instead make edit requests on the article talk page(Talk:Amy Wadge). I see that your edits were reverted with the following reason: "Undid a series of good-faith edits which contained errors, replaced sourced info with unsourced, and replaced the same unsourced, error-riddled list of individual songs I removed a few weeks ago. We simply don't need to catalog every single song the subject has worked on." If you post on the article talk page, the other editors who follow it should see it. 331dot (talk) 15:57, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

• Note: The OP has opened a discussion at Jessicapierce's talk page. @Jenki1975:, if you have also edited as Jenkinsamy, please read WP:ALTACCN and make the necessary disclosures. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 16:10, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

I've received Jenki1975's comments and will be glad to explain my changes further. Jessicapierce (talk) 17:07, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

DIS art

You have deleted the correct definition of 'Dis art' and /or DIS installation, claiming it was self-propaganda. This is not True. Besides, you have deleted one of the DIS art collective events. What is going on here? Should I spread the news? I mean...really. Or should we come to an agreement?

And besides, you've claimed © infringement. This is not true either! TX — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rey Zorroo (talk • contribs) 23:52, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

@@Rey Zorroo: The place to discuss this and reach consensus is at Talk:DIS (collective). Note that the law says that anything that is published anywhere, including on a web page, is copyrighted by default, so if we found a web page with identical text and without an explicit permissive license, then we must assume a copyright violation. If you, personally, copied your own work into Wikipedia, then you did not violate copyright law, but you did violate our policies, because we do not know that you are the copyright holder. -Arch dude (talk) 01:04, 16 September 2018 (UTC)