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April 19

How to find articles in need of short descriptions

I've recently discovered the shortdesc helper, a delightful little tool; and I would like a list of articles which (a) do not have short descriptions, and (b) really, really need them (e.g., top- or high-importance articles). Is there any way to generate such a list? Eman235/talk 08:43, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Eman235 PetScan is your friend: this query lists high-importance articles with no (locally defined) SD, and similarly for any other category (adjust depth depending on the extent of the subcategory tree): Bhunacat10 (talk), 09:14, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, that's just what I was looking for! Eman235/talk 09:19, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Need Guides for Knowledge / investor for a tech idea.

I have a TECH idea but i am neither from Software or hardware field nor i have any high circle friends just a common man who does 9-5 job who has big responsibility of his family and a small dream to bring this idea into reality so it can help others with that idea.

I don't know whom to approach for the guidelines, Who to look for to make this idea into reality. Fingers crossed looking for some help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shabbirmnj (talk • contribs) 12:11, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

@Shabbirmnj: the guys over at the computing help desk may be able to provide guidance to external resources. See WP:RD/C. -Arch dude (talk) 13:37, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Wrong picture for Dan Kemp bio. Picture is of Jim Davis, otherwise known as Papa Ewing of "Dallas" fame.

Dan Kemp bio has wrong picture! Picture is of Jim Davis. Davis was well known as Papa Ewing of "Dallas" fame until his sudden death of a heart attack.D00z3nbur1 (talk) 18:02, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

@D00z3nbur1:  Fixed Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 18:16, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Create disambiguation page for songs named "Six White Horses"??

There are at least three different songs with the title "Six White Horses". I have outlined them in the current article Six White Horses -- but doesn't this call for a disambiguation page? If so, how do we create one? I have never done that before. Cordially, BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 18:18, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

@BuzzWeiser196: there are competing philosophies for dab pages. If one song were overwhelmingly more notable, then many editors prefer that one to keep the main title. Others (including me) disagree and feel that the dab page itself should have the main title in all cases. To achieve this in this particular case first change the title of the current page by moving it, e.g., to "Six White Horses (Johnny cash song)". This will leave a redirect at "Six White Horses." A redirect is just an article with a tiny amount content. Edit that article to change its contents into your dab page, using another dab page as a worked example. Make sure that each of the three entries has at least one blue link. Now, click on "what links here" to see all the links to "Six White horses": there are only a few. Go to each of mainspace articles (not talk or help) and edit those links to point to the correct one of the three pages. Now remove the little section you added the current article. -Arch dude (talk) 18:47, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 11:33, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Why was my article on Daniel Strachman deleted

The article has been up for many years and someone named Athaenara deleted it. Please put it back — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackstein4665 (talk • contribs) 20:09, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Please restore the page about Daniel Strachman. I dont understand why it was deleted.

Thank you -Daniel Strachman — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.233.5.126 (talk) 20:16, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

@Jackstein4665: The article was deleted under the promotional speedy deletion criteria. In looking at it(administrators can see deleted articles), I would agree, as it was almost totally unsourced and reads as little more than a social media-type listing you might find on LinkedIn or Facebook. It also seems that you have some sort of connection to him, if you do, you must declare it per the conflict of interest policy and the paid editing policy. The fact that the page existed for some time doesn't mean it can remain if it does not meet standards for sourcing. You are free to request a deletion review, but I don't think it would be successful. 331dot (talk)

Pep Flags Article

Edit Request

I am affiliated with the team that was formally apart of Carson High School. As of this year, they are longer tied to the school. I have added to the “talk page” time and time again but am constantly hit with “add sources”. And I’m not sure what source you would need considering, I’m the person who heads this team.

And truthfully, this has been an ongoing battle with school about “misrepresentation” so I would like for you to remove “Carson High School” from anything related to this year. Including competition history. We are CARSON FLAGGIES. and it is disrespectful to give credit to a school that we are not representing.

Furthermore, you should allow it to be accessible to everyone in the pep flag community. Considering we ARE the source for all this information. And if you are going to continuing adding MY team to your Wikipedia. The information needs to be correct — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abcdepepflagstuv (talk • contribs) 23:58, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

@Abcdepepflagstuv: You should understand a few things here. First, whether there is an article or mention of your team on Wikipedia is not up to you or your team. It is up to editors who notice significant coverage of your team in independent reliable sources who then choose to write about it. Second, your account's edit history indicates no edits to any article talk page, and the talk page about the school has no edits about this subject.

Third, we have no way of knowing if you are the head of the team or not- you (as am I) are just two people on the internet as far as each other are concerned. Even if you could prove that you were, we cannot accept your word about any content related to it, as all information must be verifiable in an independent reliable source. Your word is not sufficient, and you cannot sit by a phone for as long as Wikipedia exists to take calls from readers to confirm the information. Lastly, if there is incorrect information about your team here, we want to know what it is, but you need to review the conflict of interest policy and make edit requests detailing any changes you want to see on the article talk page(as you say you have done). 331dot (talk) 00:07, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

The article is available for any interested user to edit(unless it is ever protected from editing), but they must conduct themselves per Wikipedia policy, especially if they are associated with the team. 331dot (talk) 00:09, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia is supposed to be a reliable source of information. Yet that page has no reliable sources? So why all of a sudden, you can’t take people’s word for it when that’s what most of that page is based on. It even says at the top of the page “this page has no reliable sources”. It’s just based off of the community posting on there. Which has now been taken away. There’s been edit requests in the talk, since March. That have yet to be taken care of. So what sources would you like so that we can respect the team and the school? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.204.88.243 (talk) 00:18, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Independent reliable sources. Remeber to log in before posting. As I said, there are no posts to any article talk page from your account or IP, nor does the article talk page have any edits about this subject. Unless you are discussing a different article. 331dot (talk) 00:26, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

And as I said the user's talk page, Even if the group is now independent of the school that does not justify removing the mention of the school from the video article. The group was associated with the school at the time. (The group was in the Gwen Stefani video for Hollaback Girl and the user is attempting to remove mention of the school.) Meters (talk) 03:12, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

The March 25 edit request on Pep flags was answered on the same day it was made with "Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made." Meters (talk) 03:17, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

You should ask at Talk:Pep flags for the incorrect information to be removed. The information is presently unreferenced so this shouldn't be contentious. I can't do this because I cannot understand the article at all. You will not be able to get correct information added without a reliable reference. Thincat (talk) 19:52, 21 April 2019 (UTC)