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April 27

Change a draft into an article

We submitted a draft a week or so ago and it looks like a bot visited it later that day, but the article doesn't appear in a search on Wikipedia. Did we miss a step? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:John_English,_woodworker&oldid=892304271 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack Colivet (talk • contribs) 01:26, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

You haven't submitted the draft for review, but there is no point in doing so in its current state. You need to add reference citations to published reliable sources independent of the subject, in order to demonstate the subject's notability. You'll find advice at WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 01:31, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

How do I request a wikipedia page

Hi,

I'm a fan of a rapper name Tai Hustle. I just noticed that he doesn't have a wikipedia page and want to know how do I request a wikipedia page for a artist. Is there a link I can click that will take me to a request page or can I just request it here? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.187.225 (talk) 02:08, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Go to Wikipedia:Requested articles. (Specifically, Wikipedia:Requested articles/music/Performers, bands and songwriters#T.) Eman235/talk 02:12, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Uploading Photos

If I take a screenshot of an image from google maps and upload it to my article, is this a violation of a copyright law? Jhojnack (talk) 02:26, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello Jhojnack. You'll probably get a better answer next time at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions, which is the noticeboard dedicated to copyright and where all the experts should be, but the relevant policy supplement is WP:SCAN. A screenshot of a single image retains whatever copyright the original image had. For the actual maps of google maps, that's a compatible license to Wikipedia AFAIK (though you may as well use a free maps source in that case), but for the pictures uploaded to google maps, the original photographer retains the copyright, and they will have to release it under a compatible license for it to be used on Wikipedia. If there is no compatible license, we cannot use the image on Wikipedia except in very specific cases. Alpha3031 (t • c) 03:55, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

images uploaded that may be under copyright

What tags would be optimal for requesting images uploaded that may be under copyright, however are used exclusively for educational/profile purposes? I want to set it up for Eske Brun as his profile is lacking a photo and there are various pictures of it. ArrivedHussar (talk) 06:00, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but as a matter of policy we don't accept images licensed under such a restriction. --Orange Mike | Talk 09:15, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Copyrighted images are allowed on English Wikipedia, but only under certain restrictions. I cannot see any immediate issues with using a photo like this, but you should read the guideline just to make sure. The {{Non-free biog-pic}} and {{Non-free use rationale biog}} should be included on the image description. There does not appear to be a tag for educational only use, but you could include that in normal text on the file page as well. --Danski454 (talk) 10:04, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

ArrivedHussar, there is a photo of this subject at Commons at File:Eske_Brun.jpg; you can use that on his article. --valereee (talk) 10:36, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Adding image/jpeg from ukranian wikipedia to english

Hello - I'm trying to take the logo from this Wikipedia page and put it on Mikulinetsky Brovar. But for some reason it won't show up, I've tried a few different file formats. What am I doing wrong? Bangabandhu (talk) 10:11, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Bangabandhu, is the image hosted on Ukrainian wikipedia (as opposed to being hosted on Commons?) As a non-free-use company logo, that's likely, but my translation isn't making that clear to me. If it is, it isn't available on English wikipedia. You'd need to download it to your own machine, then upload to English wikipedia as a fair-use file, I believe. --valereee (talk) 10:27, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. Its strange that I'd have to reupload it (I don't have any rights to it and can't personally can't confirm that its fair use). I was able to take the images I used when I made the Toilet History Museum from the Russian Wikipedia with no problem. I even left in the Cyrillic characters and it displayed on the English page, no problem. Bangabandhu (talk) 10:32, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

The reason that one worked is because the file was on Commons, rather than locally on the Ukrainian Wikipedia. It is, perhaps, questionable whether it should be at Commons, and whether the uploader is the copyright holder. If the file is deleted from Commons, it will disappear from the enwiki page. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:40, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

And to update, yes that image is on Ukrainian wikipedia, who just sent me a welcome message lol. Bangabandhu you don't need to have any rights to upload a fair-use logo. That's one of the exceptions to 'no images found on the internet' that you can provide a good fair-use rationale for. You might be able to get more nuanced advice at WP:Media copyright questions though! --valereee (talk) 10:50, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

So the conclusion here is - you can take images between wikipedias if they are on commons. You can't if they're not on commons and have to reupload them to the local wikipedia. Got it right? I understand that I could upload the logo myself, but I've had such frustration with the copyright safeguards that I'm inclined just to pass - much to the detriment of the article. Bangabandhu (talk) 14:28, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

@Bangabandhu: Yes, that's it: xx-wikipedia can access images from Commons and from xx local uploads, so copy-pasting an image name from yy-wikipedia will only work on xx-wikipedia if the source was on Commons or re-uploaded. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 11:14, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

I have an issue with Wikipedia to create a business page

Every time I created a business page, the page I created deleted — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rana.adel88 (talk • contribs) 11:32, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

I see no sign of your having created any such pages. Did you do so from a different account? The deletion log for the page concerned will tell you why it was deleted. To start with, read about conflict of interest and about paid editing, then about notability, and particularly for companies. After that, guidance is available at WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:42, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

I now see that your user page User:Rana.adel88 was deleted as unambiguous advertising or promotion. The acceptable content of a user page is described at WP:user pages. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:46, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

I see also that you have had inappropriate material deleted from Wikimedia Commons. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:50, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Now blocked as sock of blocked user Azizi.developments2019 Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:02, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Two new socks blocked, Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:08, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

combining duplicated references

I'm working on a long messy article (Delmi Alvarez) and I'm trying to figure out which references are duplicates of one another. It seems like I've seen a similar question here before and there wasn't a tool to automatically combine them, but is there anything that will even flag those for me to make this easier? --valereee (talk) 12:03, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

NM, I found the previous discussion over on Teahouse, knew I'd seen something somewhere recently! --valereee (talk) 12:16, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Warning vandals?

So i'm going to take an Counter Vandalism course soon and I was reading through the WP:Vandalism article and looking at the templates in it. It led to be ask this question... Do you need any privileges to warn others about vandalism? Or do you need other privileges to do so? James-the-Charizard (talk) 13:10, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

No special privileges are needed, James-the-Charizard. Just apply them according to their descriptions. If you'll get tired of manually messaging them, try WP:Twinkle. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 13:13, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Ok thanks. Just trying to learn some extra stuff before I get into a Counter Vandalism course. James-the-Charizard (talk) 13:15, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Edit is locked

Fascism. The article is incorrect. Fascism exists both on the far right and the far left. Yet, the entire page illustrates bias and therefore is inaccurate. Leftist fascism resulted in over 100 million deaths, yet this is intentionally dismissed. I do not understand why. Please unlock the editing so that we can properly define what fascism is and how it exists in both the nationalist and communist ideologies. Thank you in advance. My hope is that you unlock the edit because currently it is highly biased and misleading to unaware readers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boondock45 (talk • contribs) 15:09, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Boondock45 We define fascism as independent reliable sources do. If you have such sources that support your claim, please offer them on the article talk page. The protection of the article is unlikely to be removed due to disruptive editing and vandalism. 331dot (talk) 15:15, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

coords unreadable in preview

Whenever I've added or edited geographical coordinates at the top of articles recently, I cannot check them in preview mode because they are overwritten by some italic text "Work submitted to Wikipedia...[illegible]".--Shantavira|^{feed me} 18:47, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

@Shantavira: The message is from MediaWiki:Editpage-head-copy-warn. The preview placement relative to coordinates may depend on browser, zoom, window size and other factors. You can hide it with this in your CSS:

.editpage-head-copywarn {display: none;}

PrimeHunter (talk) 19:43, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

@RHaworth: FYI per message left on talk page. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:45, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Works a treat! Thanks.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 20:05, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Editing Help

I've attempted to edit a page only to find that I needed some unavailable references & now I'm unable to delete my incomplete post that contains "cited errors"---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70Alumnus (talk • contribs) 19:03, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

@70Alumnus: Hello, I have restored the page to the version before you began editing: you can do this by going to the page history and clicking on the last 'clean' version: When the page displays, click edit source and save. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 19:32, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Italic section name

I recently created Criticism of the historical Catholic Church as an article split, but unfortunately the article title is in italics. It doesn't seem to have the italic title template, so I don't know what is going on.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 20:56, 27 April 2019 (UTC) fixed it--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 21:10, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Account Activation

Hello,

I have made an informational article to upload to Wikipedia regarding the chemistry of astronomy. I did not previously have an account, so I have just recently created one. However, it says that I must wait 4 days for it to be activated (which I understand for security purposes), but I was wondering if my account could be activated as soon as possible so that I can post my article which I need to present to my professors at school. It would be quite convenient if I could have my account approved soon.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AdamWarden07 (talk • contribs) 22:03, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

AdamWarden07 You can make a request at Requests for permissions, explaining your situation. 331dot (talk) 22:07, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, AdamWarden07. Unless you have done quite a lot of editing under another user name, or without logging in, it is quite unlikely that a new article which you post as your first activity here will be acceptable. Writing a new article which is acceptable is one of the harder tasks in editing Wikipedia. If your article is not acceptable, then it is likely that it will either be deleted (if people think that it cannot be saved) or moved to a Draft (if they think it can). Would your professors be satisfied with a draft? (Anybody can read a draft article, but search engines don't index, so people won't find it unless you tell them where it is). If so, you can create it yourself, using the articles for creation process. In any case, please read Your first article.

You haven't told us what the subject of your article is, but if it substantially duplicates an existing article (such as Astrochemistry) then it will not be accepted. --ColinFine (talk) 22:34, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Richmond County FC Edit my page

I created a page for my soccer team and I’m wondering on how to make it like other soccer teams, adding a roster, stadium location etc — Preceding unsigned comment added by RCFC1 (talk • contribs) 23:01, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

@RCFC1: Sorry, but a sports team cannot have an article on Wikipedia unless it is notable by our definition, not yours. Please see WP:N, and more specifically WP:NSPORT. I see no way that an amateur county team can meet this requirement. Any attempt to force the article onto Wikipedia will just end in frustration. We delete more than 200 articles every day, usually because they don't meet our notability requirement. -Arch dude (talk) 03:40, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Also WP:FOOTYN for clubs and WP:NFOOTY for players. WP:FPL lists professional leagues. Eagleash (talk) 08:29, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Request for assistance with speedy deletion issue

23:13, 27 April 2019 (UTC)SheDevilEsq (talk)Hello, fellow Wikipedians,

I see that the page discussing me is tagged for speedy deletion. I meet several of the criteria for notability (including "person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field," "scholars (collectively referred to as "academics" for convenience) are notably influential in the world of ideas", "Authors, editors, journalists, filmmakers, photographers, artists, architects, and other creative professionals"), however as I understand the rules, my providing this information is not acceptable. How does one go about proving this (particularly as a) I was the one who received the notice, and b) I am the one who has the best access to all of the relevant information?)

FWIW, there is video of my various testimony in my legislative work, as well as links to all of the episodes of my television show, at annepmitchell.com

Thank you!

Anne

Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law GDPR, CCPA (CA) & CCDPA (CO) Compliance Consultant Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal anti-spam law) Legislative Consultant CEO/President, Institute for Social Internet Public Policy Board of Directors, Denver Internet Exchange Board of Directors, Asilomar Microcomputer Workshop Legal Counsel: The CyberGreen Institute Legal Counsel: The Earth Law Center California Bar Association Cal. Bar Cyberspace Law Committee Colorado Cyber Committee Ret. Professor of Law, Lincoln Law School of San Jose Ret. Chair, Asilomar Microcomputer Workshop

SheDevilEsq (talk) 23:13, 27 April 2019 (UTC) Anne

@SheDevilEsq: There needs to be independent reliable sources that give you significant coverage.(click "reliable sources" to review) Interviews with you or any other source related to you is not acceptable for establishing notability. It is okay for you to provide independent sources, especially if you offer them on the article talk page first. I see that the article about you is no longer up for speedy deletion at this time. 331dot (talk) 23:46, 27 April 2019 (UTC)