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June 24

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref too many keys

Dear Wikipeadia team! Thank you for this opportunity to ask you for help! I tried to edit the Great White Brotherhood page and accidentally removed link 1 (Benjamin Creme), and now it gives this message ( Cite error: The <ref> tag has too many names (see the help page).), I tried to undo, but the system didn't let me do it. I apologise for inconvinience and would really appreciate your help in fixing this issue. This is the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_White_Brotherhood Thank you so much for your understanding, Best Wishes, Amorelina — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amorelina (talk • contribs) 00:13, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Amorelina: It's fixed. Does the individual you're adding already have an article about them in Wikipedia? It's important to include a reference to a source when adding or changing article content. Also, I've left a message on your talk page(s) regarding multiple account use. Orville1974^talk 00:23, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Orville1974! Thank you for your help! The individual I was adding doesn't have a Wikipedia article. Since some of individuals in that article also don't have a Wikipedia page, I assumed that reference source is not always required. And I have only one account. Since I'm a new person and just learning, I just repeated the comments of one of the previous editors. Thank you for explaining! Have a good day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amorelina (talk • contribs) 15:56, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge

Please place ref. number 10 after reference number 7 - this is whare it should be. I cannot do this on my device. Thanks 175.32.82.245 (talk) 03:51, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

That's where it is in the version I just viewed (?). Eagleash (talk) 03:56, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

This is what we see: Another descendant is solicitor Henry Dubs Middleton, who was chairman of the Leeds General Infirmary.^{[8][9][7][10]} Is that what you're referring to? Normally, I would sequence them like this: ^{[7][8][9][10]}, but it's not necessary. Orville1974^talk 03:58, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

article written but no response

Hi there, I wrote an article on Green Marketing and I have not received any response on it. It is humbly requested to please guide me as I am a new user. Below is the link of my written article on Wikipedia. Also, I would like to know when it will be approved and what will be the process of approval. Your positive response will be highly appreciated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Green_Marketing

Regards Omer Canon

Omer Canon (talk) 06:27, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Omer. Have you seen the Wikipedia article Green marketing? It might be a better use of your time to try to improve that article. Wikipedia can only have one article for a given title.--Quisqualis (talk) 06:42, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello Omer Canon, to answer your general question, WP:DRAFTS explains how to create and publish a draft article.TSventon (talk) 10:34, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Also, you have to explicitly submit the draft before it will (eventually) be considered, otherwise how would we know when you were done? Clarityfiend (talk) 19:31, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

how to make hub?

i want to make station hub in BS-map format. please help. Saha ( talk ) 08:16, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

@Arnabsaha2212: The documentation is at {{BS-map}}. The user community who can help you probably hangs out at Template talk:BS-map. -Arch dude (talk) 13:09, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

@Arch dude: thanx. i have figured it out Saha ( talk ) 14:36, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge

Sorry - I have wiped out accidently the first section on this page. It is my device - my fingers ae too big. Sorry Srbernadette (talk) 09:02, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

I have restored it. Eman235/talk 09:09, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Srbernadette, if this happens again, just click on "History" and "Undo" your last edit. Dbfirs 09:49, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Stable version and editable version

Can I have both Stable version with highly reliable but not updated often and editable version which anyone can edit, but fact checking and correctness are not guaranteed?Wifik3r8bLk2Zr (talk) 11:51, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

• Once upon a time, there was the "Wikipedia 1.0" project with the aim to release snapshots of Wikipedia for CD/DVD material plus your goal of a stable version with some additional reliability checks. As far as I can tell, the project went dead about ten years ago, and the last released snapshot was Wikipedia:Version_0.8. I would speculate the reasons include (1) more widespread internet access in developing countries (reducing the interest of an offline version of Wikipedia) and (2) a lot more articles, making careful editorial oversight of even a fraction of them near impossible. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 13:06, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

@Wifik3r8bLk2Zr: Apparently, the term "stable version" has had many varied meanings, so many that the term is (sort of) deprecated. See Wikipedia:Stable version. Are you referring to Wikipedia:Pending changes? If so, you can see both somehow, but I cannot provide exact details. Please read that page. -Arch dude (talk) 21:32, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

@Wifik3r8bLk2Zr: Please be aware that Wikipedia has no concept of a "highly reliable" version and no formal mechanism to identify such a version. There is no formal group of editors that exerts any type of quality control. Instead, this function is completely distributed to the entire community of editors. This is a frightening concept, but many studies have shown that the overall quality of Wikipedia articles is at least as high as that of some other highly-regarded information sources. So: you should never completely trust Wikipedia, but you should never completely trust any other information, either. The "pending changes protection" discussed above is applied to only a few articles and is used to ensure that changes by new or unregistered users are reviewed: it is seen as an anti-vandalism tool, not as a way to validate information provided by editors in good faith.-Arch dude (talk) 21:57, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Incorrect image

I uploaded - what I thought to be - an image of Frank "Rocky" Fiegel aka "Popeye". It has since been disclaimed to be of someone else: WWII sailor in the 1940s aboard a ship. I do not know how to propose an image for deletion; but I do know an admin must delete it. I am requesting that this image be deleted on the basis that the information I have attached to it: Frank "Rocky" Feigel is false. Since then, I have found a true image of Feigel in later life that will replace this image. Furthermore, this Snopes.com article proves that the photograph that I mistook is in fact a "fake": Snopes.com Thank you. Maineartists (talk) 12:27, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

@Maineartists: At Commons, there is a link in the toolbar on the left to nominate for deletion. You can give your reasons for deletion. It may be that the image could be kept but under a different description. Eagleash (talk) 13:06, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

As always, many thanks, Eagleash. Maineartists (talk) 13:16, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Help with creating page for Artist Conrad Jon Godly

Hello,

I need some assistance with creating a wikipedia page for Swiss-born artist Conrad Jon Godly. As I am a big fan of his work, and he is quite a prominent contemporary artist, I was very surprised to find he doesn't have a Wikipedia page. I have made several attempts at creating this for him, yet they were unsuccessful due to copy right infringement with a gallery in London. Please could you advise me on what I should I do in order to create this page for him, thus increasing his online identity and presence?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Jessica Nicholls — Preceding unsigned comment added by JNicholls1996 (talk • contribs) 14:49, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi! @JNicholls1996: Based on your previous attempts, it sounds like you haven't properly summarized and/or paraphrased the material from your sources in your own words. These articles should help explain how to include content appropriately: Wikipedia:Plagiarism and WP:REFBEGIN. Here are some sources to get you started. Orville1974^talk 16:03, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Those sources are all interviews with the subject, and so won't help to establish notability. Maproom (talk) 21:47, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

A thing to realise, JNicholls1996, is that Wikipedia is basically not interested in what the subject of an article says about themselves, whether in an interview or anywhere else. It is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject have chosen to publish about them, and an article should be nearly 100% based on that. If there is little such independent material published, then it is impossible to write an acceptable article. --ColinFine (talk) 09:27, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

References

Block conflict

I just got into a block conflict with myself at "Special:Block/Nemaco". How is this possible? I clicked the block button just once (I'm using mouse buttons on a touchpad and would have heard the button go again if I'd clicked it twice), and there's no indication that anyone else was involved. Nyttend (talk) 22:53, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

@Nyttend: That's an admin function. I unlinked the special page to keep from scaring non-admins (such as myself) from getting a scary message by clicking it. I hope there is a place other than the general help desk where your question can be addressed. -Arch dude (talk) 01:29, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

@Nyttend: This looks like a question for WP:VPT. -- John of Reading (talk) 05:23, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Good point; I'll copy this there. Nyttend (talk) 21:57, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Adding a person's name to a city.

How do I add a person's name as being from a city? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.85.204.239 (talk) 23:49, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Does that person have an existing article ? If not, then they will not be considered notable. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:52, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

James Middleton (British businessman)

There is a small gap between ref number 22 and ref number 23. I cannot fix. please do so if you can. Thanks so much. 2001:8003:D9A2:5501:7D6A:84F9:3593:4851 (talk) 23:51, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

I think you're using a computer with unusual formatting; your message here has two or three spaces between almost every word. There's no space now, so if it were there before, someone's fixed it. Nyttend (talk) 00:28, 25 June 2019 (UTC)