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How to add /* External links */

How to add external links? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leonlovechengdu (talk • contribs) 05:52, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Take a look at WP:External links#How to link. Also note the sections on the same page 3. "What to link" and 4. "Links normally to be avoided". Mikenorton (talk) 08:24, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Just for reference Leonlovechengdu - this edit [1] looks like you successfully added an external link. Not sure on the content myself, but that is how you do update external links. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:28, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

The external link that you added has been removed because another editor felt it was an example of WP:LINKSPAM, there only to promote a company's products, an assessment with which I agree. Mikenorton (talk) 11:05, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Altering the alignment of templates and infoboxes?

Hello, Is it possible to alter the alignment of infoboxes on Wikipedia as it is for images, e.g. making them anchored to the center or left side of the page instead of the default right? If so, how? I've been passively wondering this for several years, as articles with infoboxes or templates of mixed justification can be more compact or even more legible than those without, especially when they are in short sections. Grant Exploit (talk) 07:15, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Huh. That's odd. This apparently got added under a "How to add External Links" supersection. Oh well, continue as if this was normally placed. Grant Exploit (talk) 07:28, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@Grant Exploit: A level 1 header = Question about External links = has now been deleted.[2] The main {{Infobox}} has a bodyclass parameter which allows |bodyclass=floatleft, but most other infoboxes do not pass on this parameter. You can wrap an infobox in <div class="floatleft">...</div>. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:35, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thank you! (Wait, is such a response acceptable on Wikipedia? If not, thank you for the information.) Grant Exploit (talk) 18:50, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Facebook created by Wikipedia

Hello. Theres a Facebook page called Halibuton/stanhope Municipal Airport created by Wikipedia and it conflicts with the real page called Stanhope Municipal Airport, witch i run and I am the Airport Coordinator as well.

People are getting confused on what page to follow.

I need the Haliburton/Stanhope page removed and also its the wrong name any how

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.114.225.68 (talk) 09:57, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not make Facebook pages but Facebook has copied content from many Wikipedia pages. I guess you refer to https://www.facebook.com/pages/HaliburtonStanhope-Municipal-Airport/192310710915720. It says "Unofficial Page" near the top. Hovering over it gives "This unofficial Page was created because people on Facebook have shown interest in this place or business. It's not affiliated with or endorsed by anyone associated with Haliburton/Stanhope Municipal Airport." https://www.sitepoint.com/facebook-community-pages/ may be relevant. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:35, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

New article

Hi!

I'm waiting for moving my article Samira Mustafaeva in mainspace during 2 months. Can you tell, how can I hasten this process? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tinusik (talk • contribs) 10:19, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Tinusik As you were told on your user talk page, there is nothing more you can do once you have submitted it. Reviews are conducted by volunteers in no particular order, meaning it could be reviewed in 10 minutes, or in three months. There is no way to know when, and attempts to 'jump the line' as you are asking do not speed things up. You will need to be patient. Why are you so desperate for it to be posted? 331dot (talk) 10:24, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Nothing can be done to hasten the process. But the draft is not perfect, there is room for improvement (though it's actually looking pretty good). I've done a little, by removing words and phrases that added nothing to the meaning. Maproom (talk) 22:00, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

How to take over a redundant web page.

Hi,

I'm Richard Eden, owner of Switchwise Ltd based in UK since 23rd July 2002. I own switchwise.com and switchwise.co.uk and other domains.

The page called "Switchwise" was set up by a company in Australia which has now ceased trading. www.switchwise.com.au. Their home page says "Switchwise is no longer operational. If you have a question about your transfer or connection, please contact your new retailer directly. Thank you."

I want to edit this page with the information about Switchwise Ltd based in UK.

Do I just go ahead and make the edits? I just want to check before doing anything.

Thanks all,

Richard — Preceding unsigned comment added by Switchwise (talk • contribs) 11:42, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Switchwise First, you need to go to Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS and change your username, as usernames cannot be that of a business per the username policy. Second, you will need to review conflict of interest and paid editing, two policies you will need to comply with(especially the latter, which is a Wikipedia Terms of Use requirement). Those policies will explain that you should not directly edit about your company or anything within your conflict of interest.

Regarding what you want to do itself, the Australian company going out of business does not mean its article needs to go away to be subsumed by one about your company. An additional article could be created with what we call a disambiguation, such as "Switchwise (UK company)"; or the other one could have a disambiguation added later. However, as I indicate, you should not do this yourself. You can submit a draft article using Articles for Creation; but you will need to understand that Wikipedia has no interest in what a company wants to say about itself; as an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is only interested in what independent reliable sources state about a company that shows how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable company, written at WP:ORG. Not every company merits an article here, even within the same field(Ford Motor Company meriting an article does not automatically mean my 331dot Auto Company merits one too). To be successful in writing an article about your own company, you would essentially need to forget everything you know about it and only write based on the content of independent sources; most people in your position cannot do this. If your company is truly notable per our guidelines, someone will eventually take note of it and write about it. 331dot (talk) 11:53, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@Switchwise: I have added some useful links to your talk page. shoy (reactions) 13:21, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I updated the Switchwise article to indicate that they are likely out of business. The company had some minor media coverage or else I'd prod it. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:42, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Note to Richard. Like many activities, WIkipedia is overrun with acronyms. When Timtempleton said "prod", he meant "propose for deletion". Maproom (talk) 22:04, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Adding Copyright tags

Hello, and thank you to you and the others for free information! I'm trying to use images from commons in Wikipedia, and have noticed some users just use a one line command to present the image, whereas others use the few lines provided from commons. But, even with examples, I'm not sure which one is required when respecting copyrights. I assume we have to do more than mention the tag in the edit summary, but I would really appreciate an example such as from the first to the last character, so I can copy, paste, and use it hundreds of times in the future. Thanks in advance! Davidlwinkler (talk) 12:19, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@Davidlwinkler:You use a Commons image in Wikipedia by using a Wikilink to the image. I think that our convention is that the link itself satisfies the "attribution" requirement for any copyright license that is acceptable for use on Commons, so no additinal attribution is needed. The wikilink causes the image to be clickable, and you click the image to get "details" that include the attribution. When using a Commons image elsewhere on the internet, the URL to the image suffices. When using a non-clickable copy of an image (e.g., on a paper printout), the URL needs to be explicitly printed. -Arch dude (talk) 14:57, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@Arch dude: I cannot tell you how happy I am to hear that, except you said you think, and I wasn't completely sure. So, I went to a Commons page, and after reading about how to do it when sharing it on the web, something which contains a lot of detail, and is why I came here to ask, it was then that I noticed the button next to it to share on a Wiki vs the web. You're absolutely right, and that makes it so much easier for us. Much obliged! Davidlwinkler (talk) 15:26, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedias that require Edit Summaries be in that language?

(Yes, I know this is a meta wiki question rather than specifically to en.wikipedia, I would be happy with information on where else to ask)

Is there any way to tell which Wikipedias require that the edit summary be in that language rather than English. For example, I'm looking to correct usages of "John Hopkins University" to "Johns Hopkins University". This can often occur in wikipedias where I can not read the subject of the article, but even in those languages, the citations are usually "english enough" that I feel comfortable making the changes.Naraht (talk) 13:59, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Naraht As far as I can tell, edit summaries should be in the language of the text - mainly because anyone editing should be able to read that language. I'm of the opinion that an edit summary is better than none, (Which is why a lot of edit summaries are written non-lang specific, things like "d" for delete, "k" for keep, "+" for a reply, etc. If it's a generic change such as changing these names, I'd simply write "John Hopkins University -> Johns Hopkins University". The only real issue with this, would be if you recieved a message, as it would be in that language. However, it's possible to have a site-wide user page, listed at Wikipedia:Global user page, which would show you are a native English speaker.(I'm not sure if this answers your question, however.) Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:37, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Naraht Alternatively, you could translate something like "correction" into the target language.TSventon (talk) 14:41, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@Lee Vilenski: "d" for delete, "k" for keep is hardly language-neutral, though... Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 08:12, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

broken ref

I've somehow broken ref #6 at Sean Sherman and can't figure out what the heck I did -- can someone take a look at it and tell me what probably both glaring and stupid error I'm overlooking? --valereee (talk) 20:05, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Valereee -  Done. You can't have | inside titles in references (or any template), it creates a new parameter. You can however put {{|}} to show the same title. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:11, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Lee Vilenski, thanks so much! I was staring at the markup and thinking, 'what the heck am I missing here...' :) --valereee (talk) 20:21, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

proposal / try of an article

hello

I'm a german wikipedia user

tried to start an article about a hemp firm.

I'm not shure how to proceed now.

it's on my "namensraum" User:Eltnap/Cannabis_Sativa_Inc. —Preceding undated comment added 20:12, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

note: Draft in question User:Eltnap/Cannabis Sativa Inc. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:17, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Eltnap. You can submit your draft for review by pasting {{subst:submit}} at the top (including the double curly brackets). However, it is not ready for that yet, because as far as I can see, only one of the sources is independent of the subject. English Wikipedia articles should be almost 100% based on sources with no connection to the subject of the article - and if there aren't suitable independent sources available, then the topic is not notable, and no article on it will be accepted. Please see REFB. By the way "Namensraum" corrsponds to "user space". --ColinFine (talk) 21:48, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Note that, by having a user name which is a business name, and then writing the article about the business on Wikipedia, you have a clear-cut WP:Conflict of interest. Please read the policy, use the relevant template on your User page, and change your User name immediately. Further, it is not advised to write an article draft on your User page; please use the WP:Sandbox.--Quisqualis (talk) 07:57, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

@Quisqualis: I think you've got the wrong end of the stick here, or perhaps replied in the wrong place. The editor's username is Eltnap; their draft is about Cannabis Sativa Inc.; and the draft is located at User:Eltnap/Cannabis Sativa Inc. (not on their user page). There doesn't seem to be any indication of a COI. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 14:26, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Reverting pending changes

When I review and revert pending changes, does it matter whether I use the Revert changes button, rollback, or Twinkle? If so, when do I use those to revert pending changes? Interstellarity T 🌟 20:46, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Interstellarity, Essentially it doesn't matter. All reversion methods are used to restore a certain revision. So the decision to use any method lies on you as whatever happened with the reversion you're responsible. If I am to give you an example, I would say for instance if a pending edit contains outright vandalism, then you can go for "rollback" option which does it quicker and no need for confirmation (by default). But if the edit is in good faith then you can opt for "revert changes" option which takes you to another screen for you to provide rationale. – Ammarpad (talk) 05:40, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you Ammarpad, that helps a lot. Interstellarity T 🌟 10:52, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

@Interstellarity: Also pay care that using rollback is permissible only when the lack of edit summary is not a problem; the context of pending changes has no impact on that. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 08:15, 5 June 2019 (UTC)