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March 12

Content translation tool

I just got a notification that I've never seen before:

Your translation for Chaume (agriculture) was discarded because its content was outdated by more than a year. Start a new translation with fresh content anytime.

Clicking on the notification, I see that I'm taken to a page for a French article, fr:chaume (agriculture), which can't be translated because it already exists in English (stover). I'm also told that I can't do it, because This utility is currently restricted to extended confirmed editors on the English Wikipedia, see WP:CXT for more information. Extended confirmed...I think I'm there by now :-) And I've never used the content translation tool, as far as I'm aware; I've probably clicked it once or twice by mistake (primarily at other wikis), but I wouldn't have done anything with it. Any idea why I would be getting this note, and why the tool would attempt to restrict me from using it? Nyttend (talk) 04:36, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

The message is from phab:T184268. I don't know why you got a notification but maybe you did once start a translation. phab:T218027 from yesterday is about others getting such notifications. Are you sure you can't use the tool? I see the note at MediaWiki:Cx but it does not stop me from using the tool. "Content Translation" can be disabled at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures if "Automatically enable all new beta features" is also disabled. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:30, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Thomas Michael Greenhow

Reference number 4 is all wrong - and I don't understand why. please fix. I have tried and failed. Thanks as always and please don't get angry. Srbernadette (talk) 07:35, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Srbernadette You had different quotes in your "Thomas" ref, so need different refs to reflect that, fixed. Your ref 1 needs a url or a change to cite journal format Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:46, 12 March 2019 (UTC)::

Ref 1 is wrong.please fix ~~`~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.32.70.221 (talk) 10:13, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

See answer given above: a ref without a URL does not need an access-date. Please do not start additional sections with the same heading. Eagleash (talk) 10:18, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

I've removed the reference. Please learn how to use the delete button. Please also remember to sign your messages, and remember that you have been told countless times not to start a new section with the same title as an existing section. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:21, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Identifying redirect links

Is there a way for one to identify which wikilinks on specific articles lead to redirects? This would be useful e.g. in fixing links in navboxes to avoid redirects. I'm sure there's a tool somewhere on Wikipedia or otherwise, but I don't know what it is. Thanks. RAVENPVFF | talk ~ 10:30, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

@Ravenpuff: See Wikipedia:User scripts/List. A browser search of "redirect" (Ctrl+F in many browsers) finds three relevant scripts. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:40, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Red Wiki-links

Does Wikipedia have any rule or policy on red wiki-links? Basically, this is my understanding. A red wiki-link means that the linked topic does not have a Wikipedia article (as opposed to a blue link). If the article is likely to never get created, using a red link makes little sense. At the same time, a red link may encourage someone to go ahead and create a needed article. So, it's a balancing act (i.e., determining whether a new article is needed or not and, hence, whether a red link is needed or not). So, do we have any rules or policies? If so, where are they located? Thanks. PS: Also, I believe many editors see red links and get rid of them, believing that they "distract" the reader from the article and, also, that they "mess up" the articles in which they appear. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 13:21, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Not a policy, but a guideline. It basically says what you said above. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 13:57, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:42, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

John Nitti submission lost

I SENT A SUBMISSION - JOHN NITTI FOR REVIEW It was rejected due to copyright infringement even though I wrote the original document. It is now no longer in my sandbox. Can it please be sent back to me so that I may edit? I spent a lot of time searching for reference websites, etc. which I would no need to do all over again. Thank you!

John Nitti --YB4134 (talk) 14:38, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

YB4134, you wrote the document on this website? It's still copyrighed by Landtek Group, and therefore cannot be copied on Wikipedia without permission of the copyright holder. We cannot undelete it because of that. However, if you like I can provide you with the list of references.

Before continuing to attempt to write this article, however, I would strongly advise you to read our Conflict of interest guidelines and our autobiographical guidelines, along with this essay about why an article about yourself may not be such a good idea. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 14:54, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Why do so many users create a subpage /bold in their userspace with "Being bold is important on Wikipedia."?

Resolved

 – Thanks.94rain ^Talk 15:32, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

See [1]. Is there any welcome pages telling them to do so?--94rain ^Talk 14:55, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

If you search for the string you'll find it in a number of subpages of Wikipedia:Training/tour. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:02, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) It seems to have something to do with Wiki Ed tour. "Guided Tour for learning wikicode by making a series of edits in a user sandbox, as an interactive interlude in https://dashboard.wikiedu.org/training/students/editing-basics." ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 15:07, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Статус Ли Сын Хена

На самом деле Seungri не ушел из группы. Обновленная информация является ложной, так как официального заявления об уходе из группы нет. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madisonvvv (talk • contribs) 15:59, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

This is the help desk for the English Wikipedia, so questions should be in English. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:04, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Это справочная служба для английской Википедии. Пожалуйста, попробуйте русскую википедию. (Machine translated} ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 16:28, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

I want to update correct information regarding my connection to photography and film making.

hello there. I would like to rewrite all by tomorrow... the question is how can I do it. Please help me. many best & thanks, Ilkka Mikael Uimonen

to begin with, my name is really Ilkka Mikael Uimonen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuorinka (talk • contribs) 18:26, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

As frustrating as it can be, Wikipedia has a conflict of interest policy WP:COI to prevent people from writing about themselves. Otherwise, there would be bias and whitewashing, and promotional info that is unverified. Your best bet is to make the edit requests on the talk page. Here's info on how to do that. Wikipedia:Edit requests. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:33, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

You replaced the whole of an existing article with a single block of unwieldy text that was copy and pasted wholesale from here. Wikipedia is a collaborative environment where all facts must be supported by independent reliable sources. Your text was at least a copyright violation, and was subjective, not encyclopedic writing. It would be a better approach if you pointed out on the talk page of the article the facts that you consider to be wrong and they can be discussed. -Lopifalko (talk) 18:40, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

For the beginning, I have not worked in the field of photojournalism for more than 10 years. etc, the info, in this case, is misleading. If it is possible to correct, I would kindly ask it to delete it.

Could you please help me to do an update or delete the misleading info. many thanks, ILKKA MIKAEL UIMONEN — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuorinka (talk • contribs) 18:55, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes I will look into it and work on the article, in the coming days. I can only work with information where there are independent reliable sources (on the web or in books, etc), though for very basic fact's the subject's own site may be enough. Please discuss on the article's talk page here. Thanks. -Lopifalko (talk) 19:02, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

how to update a text in probe and accurate content.

For the start, my name is not spelled in full form, the real name in full is Ilkka Mikael Uimonen. Furthermore, information about me is misleading and possibly was written by someone who does not really know who I am in my profession as a filmmaker and a photographer. The existing page is miss leading as who I am in my career. please help me to update accurate text. Many thank you, best, ILKKA MIKAEL UIMONEN — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuorinka (talk • contribs) 18:48, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Request posted in duplicate. It is being addressed above. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:52, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Editing a category page

Excuse my inexperience. I was at "Category:Service organizations based in the United States" and I noticed two notable omissions: Loyal Order of Moose and Benevolent and Protective Order of Elks. I also think that Elves, Leprechauns, Gnomes, and Little Men's Chowder & Marching Society should be removed since it is a fictional organization with the same name as a defunct one. But I don't understand how to edit this page. Wastrel Way (talk) Eric

@Wastrel Way: In the article, you just need to add or remove the [[Category: ]] that is missing or incorrect. See Wikipedia:Tutorial/Wikipedia_links RudolfRed (talk) 19:51, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Wastrel Way: You edit which categories a page belongs to by editing that page. The categories are placed below everything on a page, except stub templates and are like links. To add or remove a page from Category:Service organizations based in the United States, add or remove [[Category:Service organizations based in the United States]] at the bottom of the page. See Help:Category for more information. --Danski454 (talk) 19:56, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Oh, thank you. Both of you. I get it. And it was at the the top of that page, but I didn't see it: "To list a page in this category, do not edit this category page. Instead, edit the page you want to list." Put the RESOLVED stamp on this one. Wastrel Way (talk) Eric —Preceding undated comment added 20:00, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

For the record, the quote is from the edit notice when a category page is edited. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:45, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Spasmodic Dysphonia

I am trying to add a "notable case" with an online newspaper reference and getting an error message. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ConsumerWithSpasmodicDysphonia (talk • contribs) 21:24, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

"There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). " I have been to the help page and still can't see what's wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ConsumerWithSpasmodicDysphonia (talk • contribs) 21:29, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

@ConsumerWithSpasmodicDysphonia: I have fixed the errors. You had added an empty reference tag to the top of the page. --Danski454 (talk) 21:31, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Citing a You Tube as a reference?

Is this ok? What's the proper format? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ConsumerWithSpasmodicDysphonia (talk • contribs) 23:15, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi @ConsumerWithSpasmodicDysphonia: It might be worth put a link to the video in External Links section if the article has one. Sources should really be from books and established newspapers. Videos made by a single person may not reliable unless it comes from an established sources like e.g. a doctor who works for a clinic. Take a look at this on how to cite a video: Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Film,_television,_or_video_recordings Hope that helps!! scope_creep^Talk 00:03, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

@ConsumerWithSpasmodicDysphonia: just to add a little to scope_creep's reply above: if you do decide to include a YouTube link, there is template specifically for that which takes care of all the formatting. It is {{YouTube}} (click on that link for all the details of how to use it). In its simplest form, the link might look like: {{YouTube|id=3m21wKQJwcU|title=Dr. Robert Bastian on Spasmodic Dysphonia}} which formats as: Dr. Robert Bastian on Spasmodic Dysphonia on YouTube. --Gronk Oz (talk) 02:13, 13 March 2019 (UTC)