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March 26

Can't un-transclude unneeded content

Nauvoo Temple currently includes the building's coordinates at the beginning of the running text. Its first few lines are:

For the newer structure rebuilt on the same site, see Nauvoo Illinois Temple.

40°33′02″N 91°23′04″W
The Nauvoo Temple was the second temple constructed by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

How does one fix this? The coordinates are unquestionably coming from the infobox, {{LDS Temple/Nauvoo Temple}} (they appear in the same place if I transclude the template onto a page with no other code), but I don't see anything forcing the coords to appear anywhere than in the infobox or the top right. It's not a problem with the parent {{LDS Temple}}, as other temples, e.g. Nauvoo Illinois Temple, don't have the coords except where you'd expect to find them. Nyttend (talk) 00:54, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

@Nyttend: I'm not sure, but it may be from template using {{Coord}} with display=title,inline, which causes the coordinates to display both at the rightside top of the page and also inside the text. The other template you mention uses display=title for {{Coord}}, so it will only appear in the upper right of the page. RudolfRed (talk) 01:07, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

the information of this article on wikipedia in spanish does not match the one on the english version

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antigua_Galer%C3%ADa_Nacional_de_Berl%C3%ADn

the article of wikipedia in spanish says the architect of the building was Schinkel, while the english version and other sources say it was Stüler.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alte_Nationalgalerie --Fdepy (talk) 01:02, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

I see that you've done the sensible thing and raised the point on the talk page of the Spanish article. The gallery couldn't have been "designed by Karl Friedrich Schinkel in 1865", as he had died in 1841. The gallery is not listed at es:Anexo:Obras de Friedrich Schinkel. I have taken the liberty of inserting a space in your question here to cure the broken link to the enwiki page. It is worth noting for the future that rather than using a URL it is better to use a wikilink, so es:Antigua Galería Nacional de Berlín and Alte Nationalgalerie. --David Biddulph (talk) 06:59, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Is it ever acceptable to italicize an entire quoted sentence (or part of a sentence) for emphasis?

I've seen that done before, with no indication that it was italicized in the original or added. Should it be removed if found?

Example, from the page on Batman villain Simon Hurt:

"Going over his notes on Batman's psychology, he realized that Batman was "powered by tragedy" and set about traumatizing the three replacements, ostensibly to make them better crimefighters."

Is that usage correct, or should it be removed?75.110.35.108 (talk) 01:30, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Unless it was italicized in the original, it shouldn't be done here. Adding one's own emphasis verges on WP:OR in my opinion. Per MOS:ITALQUOTE, in general, "don't use italics for quotations." Clarityfiend (talk) 06:35, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Sorry I took so long to reply.--75.110.35.108 (talk) 09:02, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Where to propose new functionality for citing a book with a collection of works multiple times

Hi, I'm working on The Party of Moderate Progress Within the Bounds of the Law, and there are several works contained collected in a book that get cited separately throughout the article. I'm not particularly happy with WP:REFNAME or WP:IBID, and {{rp}} isn't satisfactory here, because the chapters are actually separate works - I've encountered this problem before when citing scholarly collections that all come from a single collection, but the works are separate pieces so they can't just be rolled up in a single citation. Since I'm not really happy with the citation options on hand, and I wanted to know where I go to open a ticket or discussion to improve output for multiple references. Ideally what I'd want to see here is in the {{reflist}} (or a new, equivalent template), there would be a way to cite the main work once with all the information all the chapters share (collection title, editors, translators, year of publication, etc), and then for each subsequent reference you would call something like the "ref name" plus whatever information had changed for that subreference. Then, the {{reflist}} would then show the main reference as the first entry, and then the sub entries in an indented list below the main entry. -Furicorn (talk) 02:16, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Furicorn Standard practice here is to have a separate section often headed "Sources", below the list of numbered footnotes headed "References". "Sources" contains the unvarying details of the overarching work, and each footnote citing a part of the overarching work can then refer to it just by a name and year: see WP:CITESHORT. True, the reader wanting full reference details has to look in two places, but links can be created within the footnote: see Help:Shortened footnotes, and Template:sfn and its variants.

If you continue to find that what you want to see is unavailable within the present facilities, you could perhaps start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Citing sources: Bhunacat10 (talk), 09:51, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

This is the precise situation for which {{harvc}} was written.

Trappist the monk (talk) 10:14, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Wow, just proves the importance of reading other people's questions. That's excellent work Trappist and is going onto my quick reference section at once. Thanks, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 11:39, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Facebook getting info from wrong Wikipedia page

Hello,

I am a developer for the Star Channel Greece and we are facing an issue with Facebook that you can see in the Screenshot below: https://prnt.sc/n357xr

From Facebook they instructed us to contact you and have a look in our code for any errors. We have done a search in our code and made some changes but we would like to investigate the issue with you as well so that we are clear both ends.

The wikipedia page is: https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Channel The facebook page is: https://www.facebook.com/stargrnews/ The webpage is: https://www.star.gr The false wikipage is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEO_English

Looking forward to your reply.

With regards, Dimitris Tsetsonis Web Developer Star Channel Greece — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.245.143.228 (talk) 13:43, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

You should not attempt to edit this page directly, because you have a conflict of interest: See WP:COI.However, you are invited to make suggestions for edits on the article's talk page. If you do, another editor will come along and update the article. (if it sits there too long, come back ere and we can help.) Also, as an employee, you are a paid editor, so you must adhere to our site's terms of service and declare your paid status: see WP:PAID. -Arch dude (talk) 15:33, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Somebody, maybe you, changed a wrong url www.star.gr in GEO English.[1] That seems good. Wikipedia does not control the content of Facebook pages. They sometimes copy content from us. I cannot say whether their information will be updated automatically, when it might happen, or whether you can do it yourself. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:44, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP_per_capita

Dear Sir/Madam,

Are GDP listed on the web site below used purchase power party, which adjusted standard of living standardized income? Thank you! Yunsheng https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP_per_capita — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.189.164.218 (talk) 15:11, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

The table is refers to a source. click the link to see the source, which may have the information you need. -Arch dude (talk) 15:28, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Sky Farm in New Jersey

I am the membership chairperson at Sky Farm in Basking Ridge NJ. I am trying to add to the wikipedia description that appears there. However, Ubiquity keeps reverting my efforts stating my edits are disruptive....? How can I manage this page and update its content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.7.142 (talk) 15:14, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

You posted promotional text about your facility; this is not permitted. If you work for the facility, you should not directly edit the article, either. Please read WP:PROMO. WP:COI, and WP:PAID. You will not be permitted to promote your facility here; if there is incorrect information about it in the article, you should make an edit request on the article talk page, detailing what needs to be changed and any independent reliable sources you have to support those changes. Wikipedia is not interested in what any article subject wants to say about itself, only in what others want to say about it. 331dot (talk) 15:22, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

I would further add that the page is not yours to manage just because you work at the facility; see WP:OWN. Your input is welcome, but you have no more special rights here than any other editor. 331dot (talk) 15:24, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Hatnoted Sky Farm for notability and refimprove. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 01:24, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Foreign language article

Sri Dharmaraja Sri Throwpati amman Temple needs attention. The title is about a specific temple, but until recently the body of the article was about a location. Now it appears to be about the temple, but it's not written in English. Not sure if it should be reverted or tagged? There was a Cluebot revert yesterday which has been undone. MB 15:46, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

I have moved the page back to its previous title Melpathy. The move to Sri Dharmaraja Sri Throwpati amman Temple was unexplained and apparently mistaken. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:18, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

syed abdul rahim

i would like to add the information regarding his family which is not mentioned in wikipedia, he was survived by 6 children 3 sons , 3 daughters syed shahid hakim aziz jehan syed shahid saleem tameez jehan perwaiz jehan syed shahid waseem — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faisal320 (talk • contribs) 18:35, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

You provided no references to published reliable sources, so your edit has been reverted. Wikipedia is cautious about adding unsourced material regarding living people. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:52, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Also, as I noted on Faisal320's talk page, per WP:BLPNAME even if sourced the information would generally not be included unless the family members are independently notable or there is consensus to include them.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 19:57, 26 March 2019 (UTC)