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November 4

Search for pages NOT in a category

At H:EXCLUDE, it says that using a - or a ! will do the opposite of a search thing. However, a search for !incategory:"Democracy Index rating template users" finds things that are in the category, rather than not.

What am I doing wrong? Thanks! DemonDays64 | Tell me if I'm doing something wrong :P 01:08, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

@DemonDays64: '!' is for searched text, not for parameters like incategory. Use '-' for that. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:55, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Oh thanks! That works great :-) DemonDays64 | Tell me if I'm doing something wrong :P 03:11, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Wiki french do not publish John Sarno

There is nothing in French about John Sarno so I did a translation ,and it has not been published I suspect someone receive money for not publishing it (email address redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.11.25.132 (talk) 03:09, 4 November 2019 (UTC) The French are corrupts and pretentious — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.11.25.132 (talk) 03:07, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

I removed your email address. Plese do not post off-wiki contact information here. See page header. -Arch dude (talk) 03:38, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Each wikipedia languate is a separate project. We here at the English Wikipedia help desk cannot assist you with this. Please use the appropriate forum at the French Wikipedia. You will probably get better results ther if you start by assuming good faith rather than insulting everybody. -Arch dude (talk) 03:41, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Self Promotion Page

I think this person either wrote their own Wikipedia “bio” page, or had someone else write it for them because:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Pfeifle

1. It has no outside references except to their own work & business. For example, no articles have ever been written about this person.

2. There is nothing of societal worth on there about this person’s achievements outside of an average person who studied something. Many other people have been given more awards, etc, and have no Wikipedia page.

It struck me as very fishy after I looked at it (by chance). Maybe someone can look into it, because using Wikipedia to advertise yourself seems pretty bad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.90.201.45 (talk) 03:07, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Good catch IP editor, it's now been nominated for deletion. – Teratix ₵ 03:36, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Forgot to reply yesterday. Thanks for the catch, I've nominated the article for deletion. MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 13:47, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Live Edits vs Deleted Edits

I was peering at the edit counter and noticed that many, many of my edits (roughly 1,600) have been deleted. I'm vaguely curious what's in there, if it was something that comes with now-abandoned AfC entries, or something of the sort. I don't know the extent to which it can be shared since "The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: Administrators, Oversighters, Researchers, Checkusers."

If that info can be divulged, I'd love to know. hewhoamareismyself 05:29, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello, hewhoamareismyself. The main source of deleted edits is edits you have made to pages which have subsequently been deleted: for example, if you nominated a page for deletion (that was an edit) and the deletion then happened. I suspect that if an edit of yours is suppressed by oversight (for example because it was to an article which contained personal or libellous information, subsequently suppressed by an oversighter), then it will count as a deleted edit as well, though I am not sure. --ColinFine (talk) 09:59, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

@Hewhoamareismyself: Nearly all your deleted edits are in 2011–2015 from declining AfC submissions which were later deleted. Your only deleted edits since 2015 are two from proposing deletion of Rapport Leadership International. You have 40 deleted mainspace edits. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:23, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

How to protect my article

Hi, Im Kuno Becker and I have been subject of vandalism in my article, how can I protect it so I would be the only one allowed to edit it? I can send you my ID as proof of Im really am Kuno Becker

Thanks Kuno — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dobermanproducciones (talk • contribs) 05:38, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

The last edit to the article Kuno Becker by anyone other than you was the beginning of July, and that was not vandalism, so any vandalism is not a recent issue. It does not appear to require protection, and we certainly will not protect it so that only you can edit it. The article is about you, it's not your article. It's not a good idea to edit an article about yourself. Please read WP:COI. You can fix any obvious vandalism but for anything else you should request changes on the article's talkpage. Meters (talk) 05:57, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

A more complete list of acceptable COI edits is at WP:COIADVICE Meters (talk) 06:02, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Ask for an update of Biography of Gerard ODonovan

Hello Wiki,

I have a problem or issue of the Biography I made for Gerard ODonovan.

Can i ask for the updates on the page i made what is the standing right? I didn't get any response to my published Biography.

Please let us know what we need to do? Help us to publish our Biography page.

Looking forward to your response.

thanks, NM group — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gerard-Odonovan (talk • contribs) 07:56, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

There is a clear response in the pink box at the top of User:Gerard-Odonovan/sandbox.   Maproom (talk) 08:21, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Gerard-Odonovan. I'm afraid that, like many people, you are confusing Wikipedia with social media, or a business directory. It is neither. It is an encyclopaedia, which contains neutrally-written articles based almost exclusively on reliably published independent sources about the topic. If there are several places where people who have no connection with O'Donovan, unprompted by him and his associates, have chosen to write at some length about him and been published somewhere with a reputation for editorial control and fact checking, then there could be an article about him. It would not be his or your article, you would be strongly discouraged from editing it directly, and almost none if its content should come from him or you.

One other point: the language you use above suggests that you are not in fact O'Donovan, but that this is a shared account belonging to a company. There are several things wrong with this: 1) all accounts must be individual: role or shared accounts are not permitted. 2) You should not use somebody else's name for an account. If you wish to edit Wikipedia you should create a personal account (you can use a pseudonym, it doesn't have to be your real name, but it mustn't be somebody else's name). If after research you believe that there is enough published material about O'Donovan, wholly independent of him and his associates, to establish that he is notable by Wikipedia's standard; and you decide to try the really quite difficult task of creating a new article, (made much more difficult by your conflict of interest), then you need to make the necessary declarations of conflict of interest and (assuming it applies) of paid editing, and you should start by reading your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 10:16, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Strikethrough filling entire article

I just made a request of at RfPP but then decided to redact it. When I tried to use strikethrough it struck the entire article even though I closed the section. Why is this? Curved Space (talk) 08:41, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

@Curved Space: Sometimes when you do that sort of formatting across multiple indented lines, it goes ker-phlooph. Tacking a second closer on there appears to help in the preview mode for some reason. Ian.thomson (talk) 08:47, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

​If you add a newline before the </s>, it closes correctly. This has something to do with MediaWiki's HTML processor when it tries to clean up a elements starting at different nesting points, like cleaning up the misaligned brackets in "1 + {(2 + 3} + 4)". It doesn't try to match after three indendations (":::"). – Thjarkur (talk) 10:29, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Can I use one of the image used on Wikipedia as wallpaper on my iPhone ?

Do I need permission to print it, at 8*6 meter scale ? Is it free or I have to pay? I will use the same for banner and wallpaper. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.46.201.25 (talk) 13:40, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Each image is different. As long as its for personal use only, you don't need any permission. If you intend to use it for something else, it depends on the image, as not all images use the same license. Jeb³_{Talk at me here}^{What I've Done} 13:43, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

The fountain at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashtrapati_Bhavan#Other_features — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.46.201.25 (talk) 13:47, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Click the image and scroll down to check the license. In this case, it's CC-BY-SA, so just follow the rules illustrated here, by the license. Enjoy your background. MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 13:56, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

You'll probably want to use the original file, by the way. MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 13:58, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

The Illuminated one — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.46.201.25 (talk) 13:55, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.46.201.25 (talk) 13:58, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

How to place an enforcement request

I would like to request administrative measures, such as revert restrictions, with respect to pages that are being disrupted in topic areas subject to discretionary sanctions of WP:ARBEE. If I turn to WP:AE, however, the template is designed to deal with other users, not with pages. Any suggestions how and where I could file my request?--Assayer (talk) 15:33, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Prime_Minister_of_Romania&oldid=924555861

Ludovic Orban is the new PM of Romania, dont revert my change.

https://www.romania-insider.com/romania-parliament-votes-ludovic-orban-government — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.105.26.55 (talk) 15:53, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi, .55, and welcome to Wikipedia! I was so tempted to accept the dare and revert, but instead I stuffed some beans up my nose. On a more serious note, the reference should go in the article, not here. A referenced fact is much less likely to be undone. I have added it for you, thus. Have a look at the citation tools built into the various editing toolbars: they will help make formatting easy. I see that other editors have updated the section on former prime ministers already. Pelagic (talk) 13:33, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

space dust

is space dust harmful to human — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jelly potato you (talk • contribs) 16:45, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

No, or at least not the stuff that keeps raining down on us every day: an estimated 5-300 metric tons. According to the article I linked to, "When dust particles approach the Earth they enter the atmosphere at very high speeds, anything from 38,000 to 248,000 km/hour" and get heated to "temperatures well in excess of 1,600 degrees Celsius." P.S. This kind of question really belongs on the science reference desk, not here. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:12, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Changes to BioSteel Sports Nutrition Inc. wikipedia page

Hi I'm looking to make some changes to BioSteel Sports Nutrition Inc.'s wikipedia page.

I'm on the communications team for Canopy Growth Corporation (the majority owner of BioSteel) and I've been tasked to make a few edits to the page, which I have documentation for. The changes would be to reflect the founders of the company.

BioSteel Sports Nutrition Inc.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Paul — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soucypaul (talk • contribs) 17:48, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

The first thing you need to do is read about conflict of interest, and make the mandatory declaration of paid editing. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:26, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

@Soucypaul: in a nutshell:

1. disclose your paid status on your user page
2. find published reliable sources (WP:RS) for your information.
3. place your suggested updates in a new section on the article's talk page, together with your sources.
4. add the magic incantation {{request edit}} to that new section.

Because it's far too easy for an editor with a "conflict of interest" to slip over into promotion or enthusiasm, we use this approach. An editor with an interest in responding to edit requests, summoned by the incantation, will come along and make the change for you. -Arch dude (talk) 20:23, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

error i can't change

in the chris cutler entry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Cutler i have tried several times to correct an error concerning my father's occupation. i change it, it reverts to the wrong information. this means the entry is unreliable with information is factually incorrect. to make it better, how can errors like this be corrected when your edit function either doesn't work or is set back to the error by someone (why?) or automatically ? i have to say this has shaken my trust in wikip, which i though was openly correctable and therefore reliable

thanks

cCaryatid8 (talk) 17:48, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Caryatid8, Content on wikipedia must be verifiable. You may know the truth, but wikipedia depends on Verifiability, not truth MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 17:52, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia is reliable because it is based on WP:Reliable sources, not on what editors know. You provided no source for your changes, so they were reverted to what is reported in the source. If you believe that the source got it wrong, then please discuss the correction on the talk page of the article. Dbfirs 19:26, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Questions with my Account

Hello,

I just made an account and added my bio so far, but I wanted to know when I search my name Sasha the Diva in wikipedia Nothing comes up. What do i need to do to fix the problem?

SashaTheDiva (talk) 19:14, 4 November 2019 (UTC) Sasha the Diva

Hi SashaTheDiva. You seem to have a misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is for. It is an encyclopaedia that reports what is written elsewhere in WP:Reliable sources, not free webspace for your bio. Your userpage currently looks like a fake article and is likely to be deleted. This is not what a user page is for. See WP:Userpage. You also might like to read WP:Autobiography. Sorry to disappoint you. Dbfirs 19:20, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

How to make any leaders page

Can you just tell me the registration process of leaders profile on wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:221:32C3:C816:1409:F327:A7B5 (talk) 20:19, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

If you want to create a new article (not profile) then follow the guidance at WP:YFA to create a draft article for review. RudolfRed (talk) 20:30, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Leaders or just people do not "register" to be listed here. This is not social media. 331dot (talk) 20:35, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Cite error

It shows some extra data with the reference — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:340E:4FBD:0:0:142F:F0B1 (talk) 21:13, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

You're going to need to be more specific about what exactly you are talking about. 331dot (talk) 21:59, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

From edit history of this IP, probably Sharad Arvind Bobde, but it looks like it is fixed already. RudolfRed (talk) 22:24, 4 November 2019 (UTC)