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October 15

I need this corrected !

Hi, Please can someone help me! My name is Kate Ashley and I am an actress. whenever I type my name Kat Ashley comes up. this is an historical figure and not me a film actress. I did not put that name or picture, and I don't understand how to correct it. I need my info to be correct in order to get film roles and audition. If anyone knows how to stop this from happening please let me know what I can do. Thank you Kate Ashley — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kateashleymcconnell (talk • contribs) 00:28, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

I see two ways to stop this from happening: adopt a stage name that does not appear anywhere on the Web, or become more notable than Kat Ashley. We cannot help you with either. We're not going to erase an historical figure for your convenience.

If a casting agent says they won't see you because you're not in Wikipedia, either they're an idiot or they're looking for someone well established.

If your listing in IMDb is wrong, there are ways to correct it, but that has nothing to do with Wikipedia. —Tamfang (talk) 01:02, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Tamfang doesn't get it: Kate isn't Kat and Kat isn't Kate. Accurate reading isn't convenient, I guess.

Anyway: go to Kate Ashley, when redirected to Kat Ashley, you see the text "(Redirected from Kate Ashley)". Click on that link, and you end up on a redirect page that you are free to change into a page about yourself. Of course one assumes that notability criteria (WP:NOT) are met. See Help:Redirect#Creating and editing redirects for more information. LRataplan (talk) 01:40, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Oh, by the way, I'm sure it'd be appreciated if you added a text along the lines of "This page is about the American actress. For the governess of Elizabeth I, see Kat Ashley." See Wikipedia:Disambiguation for more information. LRataplan (talk) 01:47, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Customarily we do not encourage anyone to create an article about themself, not even by repurposing a redirect page, not even if they're Notable. But if Kate were to do so, and if it somehow were not promptly deleted, I agree that it ought to have a hatnote pointing to Kat, who apparently was also known as Kate (the redirect presumably exists for a reason). —Tamfang (talk) 01:54, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

If Kat was also known as Kate, that should be on her page. It isn't. Obviously, the redirect page is for the convenience of people who have trouble typing, which is pretty common (that must be the most ironical redirect here). Repurposing it for someone actually called Kate is therefore not a problem. Writing a page about yourself isn't a problem, writing without bias usually is. Having checked IMDb, I can imagine speedy deletion. However, the question was about fixing the redirect and that is both a Wikipedia issue and easily remedied. LRataplan (talk) 02:03, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

I nominated the redirect for deletion. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 14:48, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

History of Seacroft

Ref number 15 is in red. Please fix Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 00:36, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

 Done MB 01:53, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Help me! Photo removals that I own the copyright of and want on my wiki page.

Hello- Some user by the name of Ahmad had my photos posts taken down twice now using my own website as the reason for the "violation". Identifying sources should be done so accurately by confirming if they are the same copyright holder before removing revisions/profile additions. I would like my photo additions to be reinstated please. If you don't have the authority or capability, I'd like someone from Wikimedia to intervene on my behalf, so Ahmad and whoever else will stop unfairly flagging my photos that I own the copyrights of that I'd like to be featured on my Wiki page. Thank you, Anchorandwings — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anchorandwings (talk • contribs) 01:22, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

[ also asked on user talk page and at Teahouse. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:59, 15 October 2019 (UTC)  ]

Answered at the teahouse. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 02:01, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Weird formatting in infobox

Reading the infobox for Montana, I saw the population count followed by the year of the census. That the population gets digit grouping is obviously fine, but the year? Not so much. "2,018" is confusing at best. But I can't edit it as it is apparently part of an automatic formatting process and trying to figure out how that works equals drowning in information. I fixed this particular instance with a zero-width joiner (List of XML and HTML character entity references, ‍) but that isn't very productive since all states (I checked another five) have the same problem and as soon as the next census data is in, one could start over again. And that's beside the point that four-digit figures usually don't get digit grouping, afaik, but that may be a local phenomenon. LRataplan (talk) 01:28, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

@LRataplan: The 2010Pop parameter is only intended for a population number. I have added (not yet documented) a population_as_of parameter to the used infobox [1] and added population_as_of = 2018 to Montana.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 02:06, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thanks, that infobox template link is massively useful, am now studying Template:Infobox settlement. I think I understand formatnum, if semantically more than syntactically :-D Not sure the population_as_of tag (as suggested by the settlement template) meshes with the 2000Pop/2010Pop entries, though. Shouldn't there be a 2018Pop instead? Makes it a bundle easier to check if e.g. population density figures are still up-to-date (not that I'm not going to change them to auto, though). But I have no idea of the frequency of US censuses (censi?). LRataplan (talk) 02:54, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

@LRataplan: The United States Census is every 10 years. 2000Pop and 2010Pop were originally intended for census numbers. Editors wanted updated estimates but a general population parameter was never added to {{Infobox U.S. state}} so 2010Pop was used. I agree the name has become misleading and will consider adding the population_total of {{Infobox settlement}} before we get a 2020Pop which is then used for estimates later in the 2020s. formatnum is not a template but a magic word so it has another syntax with colon before the parameter. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:23, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

list of vegans

  hello   wikipedia   ,
  
  
  can   you   add   
  
  my   name   ...
  
  to   list   of   vegans   =
  
  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_vegans
  
  
  please   add   :
  
  
  michael   weisbach             independent   researcher   ,   author   ,   artist   ,   publisher          germany  
  
  
  
  thanks   .
  
  michael  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.143.98.78 (talk) 03:25, 15 October 2019 (UTC) 

No. The list of vegans is for those who are considered notable, i.e. have articles. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:52, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Indexed in search engine.

Hi, If a page is under AfD, will the page can not to be searched in google? CASSIOPEIA^(talk)

It's a confusing situation. If a page under AfD is under 90 days old then it gets noindex in the html which asks external search engines to not index it. Google respects this. The page will be added to Category:Noindexed articles regardless of age but will actually be indexed if it's over 90 days old. "Page information" under "Tools" in the left pane will claim indexing is allowed regardless of the age. So both features are wrong but in opposite directions. None of them know the 90-day rule. See more at Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing#Indexing of articles ("mainspace"). The only reliable way to see if indexing is allowed on an article is to search for <meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow"/> in the html source of the rendered page. If the html says this then indexing is not allowed. If the html doesn't say it then indexing is allowed – at least for articles. For other namespaces, indexing of some pages is disallowed by our robots.txt file https://en.wikipedia.org/robots.txt without any of our software features registering it. Articles could technically also be disallowed by https://en.wikipedia.org/robots.txt but we never do that – unless somebody screws around with the file but I haven't heard of that. And to make the confusion complete, https://en.wikipedia.org/robots.txt is based on url's so a page disallowed by it may still be indexed with an alternative url (not redirects). Our robots.txt tries to protect against one way this can happen by listing page names with both colon and the percent encoding %3A but this isn't always done, and there are other ways a deviant url may sneak by. Features based on noindex work regardless of the url – as long as the page is here at en.wikipedia.org and not an unofficial mirror. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:15, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

PrimeHunte Good'y. Ok, I need to re-read the info a few more times and see if I understand it. Thank you and appreciate you took the time to respond to my question.cheers.08:09, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Geraldine McCaughrean

Awards section, 2018. Correction. The correct title of the Independent Bookshop Week Award is The Independent Bookshop Week Book Award — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.40.204 (talk) 11:18, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Done & sourced, but you could have edited that yourself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LRataplan (talk • contribs) 16:43, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Tools for removing non-section redirects in templates?

Does anyone know if there are any tools to assist with fixing redirects in templates (where generally they shouldn't be, unless they are to a *section*). This may not be the correct place to ask, but I'm not sure what is. (For example, I'd like to fix Template:Aboriginal peoples of the Northern Territory which still has over 20 redirects in it.) In general to be respectful of previous ordering, I'm simply looking to replace [[A]] which redirects to B with A. Naraht (talk) 15:40, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

My guess is that you'd get a better answer at WP:VPT. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:48, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Diane Enos

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[[ Caption1 Caption2 ]] Diane Enos author; Creator of the Lara Destiny novels and the Adventures of Rick Steele Born Oct/16/1953 Des Moines, Iowa Children Shannon (daughter) Kristopher (son) Writing career Diane Enos was born to write. From an early age, paper and pencils were her best friends. She would pick a picture and create a story behind it. She learned to read from the DC comics, creating her own comic books. The comic books brought her to the pulp magazines; Doc Savage, the Shadow, the Spider and a zillion other characters. From the Pulps it was Mickey Spillane, Ian Fleming, then on to Len Deighton, John LeCarre. But She didn't stop there. There was nothing she wouldn't read. Technical manuals, physics text books, any of the sciences, the human condition. And besides the cops and robbers he went to the stars with science fiction. When Alan Shepard made that first flight, she knew we never stop there. And when she started to write, it all paid off. She had built a routine of research that lead her stories steeped in reality. Her first published novel was Killer Cowboys from Space. The pen name. From the beginning, in an era of male author writing crime fiction, she chose to be Dick Enos thing that that was the only way the books would cell. With the latest novel, the Laughing Devil, she has decided to claim what is hers. Personal life Diane has been married twice. With two children from her first marriage Shannon (daughter married to Russ Grabbe two children.) Kristopher married to Jessica three children) and eight grandkids and four great grandchildren from her second marriage. She's now single and has become that crazy cat lady writer, living with two very old cats Sparky the ancient and Sprout the hungry Novels in the Rick Steele series: Lara Destiny novels: Killer Cowboys from Space The Pink Kitty Killer Vengeance of the Wolf Target T Girls The Lost City of Azgara The XXX Slave Ring The Yesterday Men The Defiled The Monster of Chinatown Vacation Hoodoo Pt. 1 Death on Ice Spank Me Till I Die Pt. 2 Terror in the City The Long Slide Death Makes a Screen Test The Unknown People Wampyr

Thanks for wanting to contribute, but this is not the place for an article draft. Please follow the guidance at WP:YFA to create a draft for review. RudolfRed (talk) 17:42, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Unacceptable Admin Article Conduct

Can someone explain to me why it is acceptable for this admin to speak to me like this while reviewing my article? Absolutely ridiculous and completely unprofessional. This draft is my first wikipedia article and obviously there would be errors which I would need to correct, yet I am forced to deal with this condescending attitude from someone who is supposed to be a Wikipedia professional. Bearcat needs to be reprimanded and I would like to speak to someone that can do so. Attached below is a screenshot of the response I received from Bearcat after my last edit

Thank you,

Brandon — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrandonPandyamonium (talk • contribs) 18:48, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Bearcat is absolutely correct, I see nothing inappropriate at all with their comments. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:55, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

BrandonPandyamonium I don't see what was in any way offensive about what Bearcat told you. Bearcat was being accurate and honest with you about notability. Keep in mind that it is difficult to convey emotion with text communication; it is necessary to assume good faith, which is an important principle of Wikipedia, instead of assuming that people are being mean to you. In any event, this is not the forum for complaints about administrator conduct; that would be WP:ANI. However, I would encourage to you take a step back for a moment and consider the matter carefully, and possibly discuss it with Bearcat, before going there. 331dot (talk) 18:57, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Agreed, and I mean no offense either but would add that a WP:DIFF is a much better way to point to a particular edit. That's the thing with Wikipedia, there's a lot to learn before you can really contribute effectively. I think that's the central message here. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:59, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

I would add that Bearcat has taken the time to add more advice than most AfC reviewers might do. In this he is trying to be helpful. Unfortunately, as it tends to go about things in a 'businesslike' way, Wikipedia can be (as noted above) a difficult environment for new users and getting a good feel for how it operates can take some time. There are many useful links at your talk page I would suggest you study them carefully, read the page about creating your first article, together with the notability guide and what constitutes a reliable source. I would seriously not recommend you pursue any sort of complaint in this matter. Good luck. Eagleash (talk) 19:59, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

I agree with those who have responded above, in finding nothing offensive or condescending in what Bearcat wrote. He could just have used the "declined" notice, but explained at some length in his comment what kind of sources are needed. And he is not "professional": he receives no more payment for his contributions to Wikipedia than you do. Maproom (talk) 22:32, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Created an article

Hello,

I created an article and it has the title: "Draft, Inc." before the title and I can't seem to fix it and don't have a "move" tab. I just created it. How do I know if it's under review?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:HOMEE,_Inc.

Nataliesands (talk) 20:32, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Users must be confirmed before they can create pages in article space. And, sorry, but as you can see I have deleted the page as it was simply PR for the company and not a neutral encyclopedia article. Wikipedia strongly discourages articles where the author has an inherint conflict of interest for exactly this reason. I see you are complying with WP:PAID, which is a good first step, but you need to find independent reliable sources and use those as the basis of any article. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:40, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

New wikipedia page for website www.bandhanghar.com

Hi,

Kindly note that, I want to create a wikipedia page for the website www.bandhanghar.com . I have made my Login with username Mehmood350 but do not know where to start. So, please help me.

Kind Regards

Mehmood350 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mehmood350 (talk • contribs) 20:37, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Start with WP:YFA, and I would also suggest WP:COI and WP:PAID if those happen to apply. In short, diving right in to writing complete articles is generally not going to go well unless you fully understand the asic content policies first. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:42, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Mehmood350 In a moment, I will leave a welcome message on your talk page, which will have many links to useful information. I recommend you start by reading "Your first article", which will give you helpful advice about creating an article in Wikipedia, then learning about "notability", learning what constitutes a reliable source, and reviewing the links in the welcome message I'm going to leave for you. Having done all of that, if you are convinced you understand the requirements for articles and have appropriate sources about bandhanghar.com, your can create a draft using the Article wizard, and submit it to articles for creation for review. However, I do not recommend creating a new page right away. Rather I recommend you proceed slowly, improving some of our existing articles for some time to get a better handle on editing, wikicode, and the culture here. Category:Wikipedia articles needing copy edit and Category:Wikipedia articles needing factual verification are good places to start. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:48, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

User Box question

Is it possible to do what I want, while creating a User Box? Does anyone know how to make that User Box "rectangle" as just one full rectangle ... without separating the smaller left side from the larger right side? Is there a way to make the User Box as just one, full rectangle? Sort of like the box I created below? In the box below, I "cheated" by taking the left side and making it the same exact color as the right side. I'd like a User Box to look like this, in appearance. But, have the text be visible (perhaps, centered) in the full rectangle ... not have the rectangle split into a left and right side. Is this possible?

  

Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:58, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Template:Userbox says:

| id-w          = <!--id box width in pixels (default=45)-->

Use | id-w = 0:

This userbox has id-w = 0

id must be omitted or empty for this to work. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:19, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 19:12, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Resolved

Carole Radziwill

Ref number 8 is in red. Please fix. thanks Srbernadette (talk) 22:32, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

 Done ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 22:36, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

City of Modena

Hello! I was wrong with a photo in the page of Modena (an italian city). How can I resolve it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albypino (talk • contribs) 22:35, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Albypino I fixed it. The problem was that you included the brackets around the image name. When an image is in an infobox, the brackets are unnecessary. (When the image is not in an infobox, however, they are.) ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 22:39, 15 October 2019 (UTC)