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October 3

Starred Articles

Hi Wiki, there is a page where all favorite articles save to, I've searched the net for the right place to find a complete list of all starred pages but all of them point to the edit or watchlist, which is not what I am looking for, I do not edit or watch pages in anyway, I just want a complete list of all my bookmarks, where is this page? Thanks for your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daveindus (talk • contribs) 01:35, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't have bookmarks as such. Apart from the watchlist, which you say you aren't using, you can (if you wish) use a page in your user space to store wikilinks to pages which you wish to be able to get to, but otherwise it sounds as if you may have been using a "bookmark" or "favorite" feature in your web browser, in which case the data isn't stored in Wikipedia but on your computer. The place that it will be stored may well vary between browsers and between settings on your machine. WP:Reference desk/Computing may be able to help. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:15, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

​If you have clicked on a star here on Wikipedia, the page has been added to your watchlist, you can see a list of all your watchlisted pages here: Special:EditWatchlist (can be found through clicking "Watchlist→Edit your list of watched pages"). If you have clicked on a star in your browser, you can find it under Bookmarks, such as in Chrome's "Bookmarks→Bookmark manager". – Thjarkur (talk) 01:57, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

when will article be reviewed and accepted

I have created a new article, first in the Sandbox, then oopied and pasted the corrected edited version, and clicked on publish. what happens next? I see the entry when I go to my user page, but I don't see it when I search in Wikipedia... thANKS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelfeuer (talk • contribs) 08:37, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Michaelfeuer You edited your user page, which is not article space and will not show up in search(unless you put "User:" as well). Your user page is a place to introduce yourself to the Wikipedia community in the context of your Wikipedia editing or use. You can submit a draft using Articles for Creation, but your article would not be accepted as it is basically a resume. Wikipedia is not interested in what someone wants to say about themselves, only in what independent reliable sources state about subjects that meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability. Please also read our policy on autobiographies, which are strongly discouraged. 331dot (talk) 08:57, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)@Michaelfeuer: As far as I can tell what you have created is content at your userpage. This exists for you to tell other editors something about yourself and how you intend to contribute to Wikipedia. It should not contain article-like content and as such is liable to deletion.

If it were to be submitted as a draft article it would be most unlikely to be accepted as it contains no references no inline references and also appears to be an autobiography – please see that page and also here as to why this is not a good idea.

If you are Michael Feuer, or you have any connection to him at all you also need to read WP:COI and WP:PAID and make the necessary declarations. Would also point out that Wikipedia is not a form of social media like Facebook or LinkedIn where a 'profile' can be created. Wikipedia reports on what has been written about a subject in independent reliable sources and has has fairly stringent rules on notability.

Some useful links will be left at your talk page. Please study them carefully before editing further. Please do not ask similar questions in multiple locations. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 09:12, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

new article not showing up on google search

Elle Simone isn't showing up for me on a google search, and I'm wondering if there's a reason, as usually articles show up pretty quickly. --valereee (talk) 09:21, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

New articles are WP:NOINDEXed until they have been reviewed through new pages patrol (or 90 days have expired). More than 5500 articles are awaiting NPP review. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:36, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Showed up for me when I searched for it. (Note; article was auotpatrolled). Eagleash (talk) 09:38, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Obviously; the creator possesses the WP:AP flag. ——SerialNumber54129 09:44, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Eagleash, it shows up when you google Elle Simone, not adding wikipedia to the search? It's still not showing up for me when I google "elle simone". Sorry, should have specified that autopatrolled articles usually show up pretty quickly. Another article I created yesterday is showing up fine. --valereee (talk) 10:55, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

@Valereee: Shows up for me in upper and lower case after googling just the name. Eagleash (talk) 11:47, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Eagleash. Deeply weird, it shows up for my husband, too, and when I checked it came up on my phone, still doesn't on my laptop. Maybe my browser or google is doing some sort of 'smart' search because I've searched her name so many times while doing my research? --valereee (talk) 12:47, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

It shows for me in all Google searches. Have you tried purging your browser cache? Dbfirs 19:14, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

climate change alarmism

I am disturbed that the post modern Marxist movement has hijacked this organization and used it do disseminate lies and propaganda. Climate change occurs naturally and is not due to the tiny amount of Carbon Dioxide that is added by human activity. Refer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Happer and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Moore_(consultant) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_who_disagree_with_the_scientific_consensus_on_global_warming It should be noted that science is not based on consensus but on peer review. Science is not a democracy. The use of the word consensus itself implies a political agenda. I demand that any articles on climate change include links to these pages. It's time to stop the spread of lies and misinformation JD — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:2460:2B70:A98D:4CB7:E130:3F9 (talk) 09:32, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Please discuss article content at the various talk pages. Please see WP:RGW for some relevant information. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 09:43, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Climate change, where the Arbitration Committee ruled that we would side with actual science instead of corporate propaganda. Ian.thomson (talk) 09:48, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

place to request semi-urgent help with an article?

Fall of the Berlin Wall has just been created and is at DYK with a request for November 9th. I'm thinking it's going to get a lot of attention that day, and the creator doesn't have time to take it to GA, and some of the more important sources are offline. Is there any place to go to request help with getting an article into shape? Usually we say no deadlines, but I'm thinking the 30th anniversary could mean a lot of views, and I hate to not get it as polished up as possible. --valereee (talk) 11:01, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

@Onceinawhile and Valereee: Happy days, I've got plenty of material on the subject, which I can send on via GDrive. If I am instructed to send, of course. Nice article though: I'd expect t to be featured material sooner rather than later, although I agree that both GA and FAC are crying out for reviewers. Of which, sadly, due to commitments, I can't be at this point. Cheers, ——SerialNumber54129 12:16, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Serial Number 54129, send away! What do you need from me? --valereee (talk) 12:26, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

@Valereee: Sent ——SerialNumber54129 14:04, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Does the article need expansion for DYK requirements? From the looks of it, it's a WP:SPLIT from the main Berlin Wall article, with this edit. As such, surely it would need to be 5x expanded from that version? It would need to meet 5x before the end of the 10 days requirement, so it would need roughly another ~5000 characters. Not really my subject to be able to add details, but wortyh noting Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:53, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

@Lee Vilenski: correct me if I'm wrong—it's me + math, so perfectly possible probable—but that first edit you link to is 730 words; so 5X expanson would be 3650 words, and it's at 2875 atm. If that's the case, it's a slightly more realistic target  :) ——SerialNumber54129 14:11, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

800 words is roughly 5000 characters. I just wanted to make it aware it's a split, as the DYKhelper wouldn't denote this Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:36, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Reg: My entry under "painting" page got deleted

Hello, Greetings! I am bit new to Wiki editing. I am curious to add about "Coffee painting" which is one of a fast growing painting technique. Today, I added "Coffee painting" under "Painting media" in painting article. But , it got deleted with the reason " Not appropriate for an encyclopedia". I have provided the reliable citations too. Kindly guide me to know what additional details I have to give, to make it appropriate.

Thanks in advance! Thank you for your valuable time in guiding me. SudhaNandhini (talk) 12:13, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

You have three times added unsourced content, and three times your edit has been reverted. It's time to stop edit warring and time to start discussing your suggestion on the talk page of the article. See this guidance. In general, Wikipedia should contain only information that has already been written about in WP:Reliable sources, and these sources should be cited when additions are made to an article. Dbfirs 18:36, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

​The article Painting is about a broad topic covering centuries of development, so even mentioning "coffee paintings" would be undue weight even though the Daily Mail and Times of India have written a bit about it recently. The sentence Coffee painting stimulates the interest towards painting because of its easiness, excellent aroma and appearance is not encyclopedic, see: neutral point of view. The best sources to use on Wikipedia about topics such as paintings are scholarly sources about art history, see: reliable sources. – Thjarkur (talk) 21:02, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

And remember that the Daily Mail is not to be used as a source. RudolfRed (talk) 01:43, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

rowspan does not work

Hello, I was recently editing the List of Billboard Hot 100 number-one singles of 1986 and for whatever reason rowspan does not work properly on the last two lines. It works fine without the dts-template, but not with it.--Lirim | Talk 13:40, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

I have seen errors like this before. I don't know the precise circumstances but have added a fix with a non-displayed row at the bottom.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 14:56, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

It looks like a bug, but possibly only occurs when using table formatting in a way that it wasn't intended to be used. According to Help:Table, scope="row" is for the first column of a table; here it is used in the second. It's the same when using plain text instead of Template:Dts for the last row. Peter James (talk) 22:05, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

It appears to happen in sortable tables when the last row has both rowspan and a header cell. Simple example:

A	B
C	D
E

I can see it rendering correctly for a moment and then D collapses to one row when the JavaScript for sortable runs.

Original table without sortable:

A	B
C	D
E

Original table without header cells after the top row:

A	B
C	D
E

Original table without rowspan in D:

A	B
C	D1
E	D2

Original table without E being a header cell:

A	B
C	D
E

All tables render correctly for me except the original. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:57, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

This should be fixed. That is actually a problem for all number-one list articles.Lirim | Talk 18:09, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Translation

I tried to put some translation but it failed and became edition. I read the TRANSLATE US but it does not work well. Would you please help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hnin Pwint Nanda (talk • contribs) 14:14, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

I don't know what you were trying to do at X1 (band), but I have reverted your failed edit. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:22, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Hnin Pwint Nanda. If you wish to create Burmese text, you need to put it in the Burmese Wikipedia, not anywhere in the English Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 23:19, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2019 Najran attack

Something seems to have gone wrong when this got made. Can anybody fix it? 88.111.193.234 (talk) 16:25, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

I have reformatted the AFD discussion heading and added it to today's list of AFD discussions. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:36, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

wrong latin translation-please f***king change.

This is the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Cestrian_Grammar_School

The school motto reads: as above link: Motto: "Delapsus Resurgam" (When I fall I shall die)

This is wrong! other than a bunch of kids walking around with an emblem associated with death, which by all accounts is wrong.

"Delapsus resurgam" does not, I repeat does not translate to this!

It wasn't this originally on Wikipedia, and now it's changed...

Please correct it, it's offensive to the Great Students that have, are and will continue to become Great Human Beings.

This is what it translates to:

"Delapsus Resurgam" (When I fall, I shall Rise again)

Northcestrain formed just after the end of the second world war. Its Latin emblem is meant to inspire students to keep on trying. We all fall in life, but we keep on regardless because we are fearless and we never stop trying. We never give up.

Please change this. as soon as possible.

Regards,

Nick Carroll. (Former Student of Northcestrain Grammer School) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.7.181.40 (talk) 20:02, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing out the missed vandalism. It has been taken care of. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:09, 3 October 2019 (UTC)