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August 29

question on making all page sections collapsed when viewed on a mobile device?

I noticed that there is a feature on settings for wikipedia, when viewing it via a mobile device, where I can specify that all sections of a page should either be collapsed or expanded automatically. is there any way to add a template to an entry, to make all sections be automatically collapsed for that specific page? this is for a page in my user space.

Please ping me when you reply. thanks. ---Sm8900 (talk) 🌍 00:52, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

What counts as a threat?

Say a user edits an article with unsourced information and adds something along the lines of 'if you remove this, i'm coming for you.' Is this against any particular rule, and is there a specific warning for stuff like this? I don't want to bring attention to the exact edit until I get the OK to do it. I know about the WP:NLT policy, but that isn't really a legal threat, and it feels too general to be considered harassment. It also doesn't seem like an actual threat by someone who plans to carry out physical action in context, so aside from 'adding POV content to articles', what rule if any does it break?

If more information is needed, I can provide it. MuBoSko (talk) 01:03, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

@MuBoSko: Starting at WP:NLT, I clicked on the hatnote to WP:THREATEN, and then clicked on "personal attacks are not tolerated" to get to Wikipedia:No personal attacks. I hope this is what you're looking for, and hope you have better experiences on Wikipedia in the future. GoingBatty (talk) 01:07, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

@MuBoSko:Even if it were not technically a threat, it violates one of our five core principles. See Wikipedia:Civility. You should probably engage with the user on the user's talk page to civilly and politely point this out to the user. -Arch dude (talk) 01:13, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

@Arch dude: @GoingBatty: these are helpful. The question was somewhat about whether a general warning can be considered a threat and/or any kind of personal incivility, especially if it doesn't seem serious. I tend to worry about things like this. Thanks for the advice. MuBoSko (talk) 01:51, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

@MuBoSko: Anything other than content that makes other editors uncomfortable counts as incivility, because it makes it less enjoyable to be an editor. We will inevitably have trouble enough due to legitimate content disputes. -Arch dude (talk) 02:13, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

@MuBoSko: Sorry to give you a bit of a mix of answers, but while Arch Dude is no doubt correct regarding civility issues, I would personally perceive it as either a Legal Threat or a Personal attack - as GoingBatty notes. If I were acting as reviewing admin I'd look at the context, but something like this wouldn't be a "standard" civility warning, as those two areas are considered particularly egregious forms of civility breach. Failing to make your threats clearcut holds no water on Wikipedia. Nosebagbear (talk) 14:39, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

@Nosebagbear: I concur. Since MuBoSko thought this was a borderline case, I recommended engaging the user. If the user then responds civilly, no further action is needed. If the user makes it clear it was a threat, then bring the hammer down. -Arch dude (talk) 16:17, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Math problem

. Solve by Cramer’s rule 2𝑥 + 𝑦 − 𝑧 = 5, 𝑥 − 𝑦 + 𝑧 = 1, 𝑥 + 3𝑦 − 5𝑧 = 7

Added a header to the unsigned question. Try WP:RDMA, but they don't do homework for you. You can explain what you've tried and what you are stuck on. There is Cramer's rule, if that helps. RudolfRed (talk) 02:58, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

OK I solved it. I read the Cramer's rule article, found the 3x3 formula in the "Explicit formulas for small systems" section, and then realized I needed to use Determinants, so I read that article. You can do the same. -Arch dude (talk) 16:09, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

All attempts to edit any page results in a "parameter" error

Update: Suddenly, this reporting dialog works, and the example below works only if "Publish Changes" is chosen first & only. "Show preview" and "Show changes" continue to fail with the reported error message.

Attempted editing, however minor, any page, results in the following error message whether clicking Publish Changes, Show Preview, or Show Changes buttons:

An error occurred while attempting to preview your changes. Unrecognized value for parameter "useskin": modern.

CANCEL button continues to work.

I've search almost everywhere for this parameter without success. This error occurs with all browsers tried on 3 computers.

Here's an example: Moss Landing Power Plant

NavajoDutchman (talk) 08:02, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

I see no sign of such an error using preview on that page. mw:Skin:Modern is no longer available. I suggest that you select a current skin at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:52, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

how to use collpase template

how do I use the template {{collapse top}}, and program the entry to have all collapse boxes collapsed by default,rather than expanded? Please ping me when you reply. ---Sm8900 (talk) 🌍 13:28, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

@Sm8900: I'm not sure what the the problem you're running into is; the template's documentation states that affected content is already collapsed by default. Did you add {{collapse bottom}} at the end of what you want to collapse? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:24, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

@Sm8900: From your contributions it looks like you're editing from a mobile device? The collapsing functionality doesn't work on mobile devices - see Help:Collapsing#Limitations and Phab:T111565. If you scroll to the very bottom of the page and press the "Desktop" link does the collapsing work correctly? 192.76.8.74 (talk) 16:54, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Looking for content that needs translating

Hello,

As a frequent user of both the English and German versions of Wikipedia, it's not uncommon for me to see articles that exist in one language but not the other, or that one version is much more brief than the other. I could just translate the articles I'm interested in, but I'd rather work on articles that other people are actively looking to get translated. Specifically, I want to translate German articles to English. However, after looking around for a list, I became pretty confused. I did find some lists, but there were hundreds of them, just for specific topics. I'd just like to have a place where I can see any and all German articles that need translating into English. If anyone can help me do this, I'd be very grateful. I've tried to figure it out myself but I can't find what I'm looking for.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Specialized Atlas (talk • contribs)

First: Thank you! OK, now, take a look at Wikipedia:Translation and its various links. I don't think the list you want exists in that form, but if you join up as a translator, you will probably get requests, and you can hang out on the talk pages to ask those folks how to find work to do. -Arch dude (talk) 15:48, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Specialized Atlas, you have probably found Category:Articles needing translation from German Wikipedia. These are en Wikipedia articles tagged "This article may be expanded with text translated from the corresponding article in German" rather than requests for new articles: some are subcategorised by subject and some are not.

There are shorter lists at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Austria/Article_requests and Wikipedia:WikiProject_Germany/Article_requests.

If you have found some confusing lists you could ask about them here.

I recommend reading Help:Your first article if you haven't already done so. TSventon (talk) 16:35, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

I edited a post that was offensive to my country but was blocked and deemed unhelpful.

Hi, I edited an article related to my country but it was reported as no useful contribution. The article edited by me is an article that is historically incorrect, affects our sovereignty and offends my country, so I request that it be corrected. Here is the article link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Vietnam

Your edit was reverted for a technical reason: you removed statements that had references to reliable sources. Your next step is to go to the article's talk page and explain why this information should be removed. You are highly unlikely to prevail because we do not generally remove referenced statements. However, you may be able to add statements that explain why it is "incorrect, affects our sovereignty and offends my country" IF you provide reliable sources for your assertions. Discuss it on the article's talk page. -Arch dude (talk) 15:56, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

You can see a synopsis of the country name year by year contrary to the misinformation below. And the quotes in this wrong paragraph have nothing to do with the article and include unrecognized information but you claim to be verified information while I am quoting from the official government site. Or are you Chinese trying to spread information that affects my country? Vietnam is not China. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.186.61.239 (talk) 16:42, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

This is the help desk. It is not the place to discuss article content. Please discuss article content on the article's talk page. -Arch dude (talk) 21:08, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

PCR Test 'diagnostic' misleading statements that make Wikipedia and authors liable for FRAUD & Mass Murder

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis = doesn't mention CovID-19 testing...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_testing#Reverse_transcription_polymerase_chain_reaction_test = should attempt to be impartial and balance 'claims' with other REPORTS and information such as https://walkinverse.com/dr-kary-mullis-slams-fauci/ https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/why-covid-19-testing-tragic-waste

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymerase_chain_reaction - list PCR Test as a detection of pathogens in nucleic acid tests for the diagnosis of infectious diseases.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:5cc:c500:76d0:8196:7598:5fd5:63f0 (talk) 15:25, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

First, No legal threats. Second, yes, we are biased. With those in mind, you may use the corresponding talk pages to suggest improvements to the articles. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 16:02, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

You might also find it useful to read WP:MEDRS to understand how Wikipedia evaluates the reliability of sources for medical matters. --ColinFine (talk) 16:53, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Publishing a “draft”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Future_of_Work_Manifesto

I created this page in May.

The work is now ready to be promoted from “draft”.

How do I do that?

Can I change the name?

Do I need to “publish” somehow?

Do I need to create a new article without the word “draft”?

Thanks!

Charlie Colpitts 2600:1700:2890:62F0:354B:A2C4:7087:19F1 (talk) 16:59, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

To submit your draft for review simply add {{subst:submit}} to the page. As it stands your draft has no chance of being accepted - to be blunt for a minuite: it is completely unsourced, does not demonstrate how this series of conferences are WP:Notable, is highly WP:promotional, is not written in the WP:Tone expected of an encyclopedia article, and appears to contain large chunks of WP:Original research and essay like writing. Have a read of WP:Your first article for advice on how to write an article - you will need to find pieces of significant independent coverage in WP:Reliable sources and write an article based around what they say. Please also review our WP:Conflict of interest guidelines - you should avoid writing articles on events which you are involved in. 192.76.8.74 (talk) 17:18, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Draft:Future of Work Manifesto is a very long way from being acceptable as a Wikipedia article. It cites no sources at all, and so provides no evidence that its subject is notable, in the idiosyncratic sense in which that word is used here. It's not clear what it's meant to be about; the title suggests a manifesto, but provides no evidence that the manifesto exists. Maybe it's about an unspecified group of people (referred to as "we" in the draft); or about a meeting, held at an unspecified time in an unspecified place. If you want to get an article accepted, you should find what several reliable independent published sources have said about its subject, put out of your mind everything you happen to know about the subject, and write your draft based entirely on what those sources say, citing them as you go. Maproom (talk) 17:34, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Charlie - You need to write the draft in shorter, simple terms, for a general audience, and include sources showing why this subject is notable. Not just because you say it is. Also, avoid first and second person references. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 01:17, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Tom Selick=actor

Your page on him does not have date of passing.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.45.165.120 (talk)

That would be because no independent reliable sources have been offered indicating that Tom Selleck has passed. 331dot (talk) 21:02, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

What he does in bridge games is not considered noteworthy. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:37, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

ClarityfiendEspecially since he made a takeout double instead of passingNaraht (talk) 10:39, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Kristen Pitzen

Could you please tell me what class Kristen Pitzed works for. I would like to Donate and bring by 2 dozed Chic Filet sandwichs for her children to eat and for her to get more upset about the Chic Filet’s stance on marriage.

Please let me know before she gets fired— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:a920:9650:4936:20ab:9cbd:40f6 (talk • contribs) 29 August 2021 21:52 (UTC)

Do you have a question about how to use or edit Wikipedia? Eagleash (talk) 21:59, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Don't bring Wikipedia into Chick-Fil-A's culture war. ––FormalDude talk 22:30, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

You might be looking for this article, but there are no Wikipedia articles that discuss her. GoingBatty (talk) 23:29, 29 August 2021 (UTC)