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July 17

I want to start my own wiki.

I have an idea for a wiki site that hasn’t been created yet. Where do I start. Is the source code/installer on github? Also can I contact the owners of bots to run them on my wiki? The two that come to mind are the anti vandalism bot I think called cluebot 2 and there’s a bot that stops people from posting from proxies and vpns.

I hope this is the right place to ask. Cheers!

76.11.16.104 (talk) 03:32, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

This is not quite the right place to ask. but we can help a little. The wiki software used here is called Mediawiki. You can install it on a server or a virtual server ("VM") anywhere on the Internet on which you are an administrator, and you will then have a wiki of your own. All of the bots here on the English Wikipedia are open source, so you are permitted to copy them and run them on your new wiki. You will runs these copies, since you are the owner of the copies on your wiki. Please note: this is not a trivial task. -Arch dude (talk) 04:02, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

There is an instalation guide available here. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:13, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks guys. I have programming experience I just know nothing about wiki software. Kind regards.

Ivtv (talk) 14:59, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Copying and pasting

Is it ok if i copy a text from Wikipedia and then paste it into my bible notes/notes. I sometimes cut out the information i do not need.

See this link: Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content. I'm assuming you don't mean WP:COPYWITHIN. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:56, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Misrepresentation of Wikipedia article

I am a translator and I was looking for the technical term for Asphalt Shingle in Danish. A lot of times Wikipedia as a good starting point when researching or double-checking the translation of industry specific technical terms. In my search I came across: https://da.abcdef.wiki/wiki/Asphalt_shingle which seems to be a machine translated copy of Wikipedia with ads. The corresponding article on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asphalt_shingle) does not have an official Danish version. Aside from a potential legal issue of leeching on Wikipedia, the problem with this page is that it does not translate a asphalt shingle to 'bitumen single' or 'tjærepap single' but translates it as shingles into 'helvedesild' (hellfire) which is a Herpes rash. I have already found several Danish roofing companies that are too cheap to use a proper translation service and are describing their products as a herpes rash on the English part of their website. I don't know if they are being mislead by the Herpes rash on the leeched Wikipedia page or if or they are just ignorant of that Google Translate is a tool and not a solution. This is my first contact to Wikipedia, so I don't know if it is the right place, but now I have done my part in the fight against leeches and cheap quality translations.

We have no control over sites that copy the English Wikipedia. Copies are completely legal if the copy attributes Wikipedia as the source, since we have a CC-BY-SA license. Since you appear to want to solve the more general problem within the Danish roofing industry (thanks!) you do have an option: create an article within the Danish Wikipedia. You have just as much right to do so as anyone else. You may choose to translate the English article, or start from scratch or anything in between. -Arch dude (talk) 14:25, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Help update logo on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KSHB-TV

Hi! I work for EW Scripps, the parent company of KSHB. I have been asked to update the KSHB logo as the station has gone through a rebrand - you can see their new blue letter logo on https://www.kshb.com/. I'm not sure how to update it on the WIKI page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KSHB-TV , any help would be appreciated. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fei Xing Scripps (talk • contribs) --Orange Mike | Talk 15:11, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

@Fei Xing Scripps: The file in question is hosted at Wikimedia Commons, more specifically, at this link. I recommend you read that project's policy on Threshold of originality, which is the policy used to allow the upload of these kinds of images to Commons. If you believe the new logo also falls within that policy, then feel free to upload it there, following all other required policies. After that, you will be able to use that file on KSHB-TV. If you have any further questions, I recommend posting at their help center. Isabelle ^🔔 17:39, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

As and Ås

There are several place names in Finland and Norway named Ås listed at As. They are also listed at Ås. Should they be at As at all, given that they are already listed at the correct spelling, and that A and Å are very distinct letters, with different pronunciations, both in the Scandinavian languages and in Finnish? JIP | Talk 17:27, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

JIP, I would say yes, because Å is regarded as A with an accent in English, though not in the Scandinavian languages. Also Å is sometimes replaced with A when Å is not available on a keyboard. TSventon (talk) 17:49, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

For ease of access to people whose keyboards don't normally do diacritics, I'd say have them appear in both. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:55, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Archiving talk page sections

Hi, I am realizing that I should archive old sections from my talk page so it doesn't become too lengthy. I tried adding a bot, but I think I was unsuccessful in doing so. I'd appreciate any help here. TIA! Kind regards, PinkElixir (talk) 17:58, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi PinkElixir. As it says in the template's documentation page, the bot has a set time where it archives user talk pages, and only does so once a day. Your code seems to be correct, so I'd say to just wait until tomorrow to see if it archives correctly. Isabelle ^🔔 18:06, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

@PinkElixir: It appears that it worked. I'd now just recommend adding a template such as {{archives}} to the top of your talk page, so you and other readers can easily access previous discussions. Best regards, Isabelle ^🔔 14:58, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

@Isabelle Belato: thanks so much! I'll add the template. Kind regards, PinkElixir (talk) 17:02, 18 July 2021 (UTC)