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June 11

Add “age guide” field in game infobox

While trying to find age guide for video games as a parent, I noted that the age info is not an available field in the Game infobox. The idea is to add the industry guide, e.g., ESRB ratings, in the infobox. Is it possible? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rynh (talk • contribs)

@Rynh: Assuming this is about {{Infobox video game}}, you can go to the template's talk page and propose the addition of a new parameter. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:44, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Exactly what I’m looking for, thank you Tenryuu for the guidance.--72.140.8.237 (talk) 13:41, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Looking at the talk history on that page, it looks like they had age ratings, but removed them many years ago. An issue seemed to be what countries to include (as different countries have different age ratings): Template talk:Infobox video game/Archive 12#Age Ratings. That short discussion is 8 years old though, so probably still worth asking there. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:46, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Right… And I would think we should list all available, rather than leave blank. Thank you Joseph2302. --Rynh (talk) 13:52, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

There's also the matter that the ESRB is not the only rating board out there. It may shock you to learn this, OP, but we have readers that aren't based in North America, and they'd (more like than not) want to be looking for the equivalents for their home country, be that PEGI, CERO, OFLC or what have you. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 21:32, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Splitting headache

I've split List of celebrities with advanced degrees into List of artists and entertainers with advanced degrees and List of athletes with advanced degrees per the discussion/hemi-semi-demi-consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of celebrities with advanced degrees. The problem is how do I retain the edit history (and the related question, what happens to the original article)? Clarityfiend (talk) 03:55, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

@Clarityfiend: From what I remember from splitting COVID-19 articles almost a year ago, the original page is renamed into one of the two new articles via a move, and the other article is created under a different title, with attribution being provided to the original title. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:46, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

@Clarityfiend: See Wikipedia:Splitting#How_to_properly_split_an_article. Your edit summary for the new article will contain a link to the article the content came from. Perhaps the original could be become a dab page that lists the two new articles as choices. RudolfRed (talk) 05:50, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

I did link to the original list in the initial edit comments for the new lists, so maybe the best thing to do is just redirect to the artists and entertainers list, as they are more likely to be considered celebrities than sports figures? Clarityfiend (talk) 06:03, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

My Article

Hi guys, The Wikipedia page I created is not published. It's been more than 2 weeks since I published. May I know when will my article gets published

You didn't publish anything. You created an article in your sandbox only - User talk:Shabarish Gudisi/sandbox. You should probably move it over to WP:Drafts and submit it for review. FYI, the wait time there is a lot longer than two weeks. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:06, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

But, Shabarish Gudisi, it will be a waste of everybody's time if you submit it for review unless you sort out the references. Please note that Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. Judging from the titles and URLs it looks to me as if only one of your sources is either reliably published or independent of the subject - and that one (Times of India) does not mention Akella even once. Please read your first article, WP:BLP, and WP:CITE, and look for the sources that are required to establish notability. If you can find some, then you will probably need to throw away what you have written, forget everything you know about Akella, and start again, writing about only what you find in the independent sources. (If you can't find the sources, then you'll know not to spend any more time on a pointless exercise). --ColinFine (talk) 14:04, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Paintings (no header or question)

Paintings — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2400:adc1:125:6a00:ddfc:251e:7802:c72e (talk • contribs) 2021-06-11T07:37:16 (UTC)

Author with many pseudonyms

How to {{cite book}} for author , has www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-no, but no wikipedia article, yet with many pseudonyms for the same book, for different editions, she also wrote a book about Benito Mussolini...

.... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 07:11, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

There's no obvious right or wrong answer: I would just cite the author credited in the copy you consulted, 0mtwb9gd5wx. --ColinFine (talk) 14:10, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Table information on a page

Hi,

The information on pages for specific churches list "Administration" details in a table on the right. See example on the following page, St Mary's Church, Hemel Hempstead

I was curious is there is a total table with all the information included into for all parishes, deanery, diocese and provences in the church of england that this information is drawn from or is it in the code on each single page?

Cheers,

Devin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deving1334 (talk • contribs) 08:27, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Deving1334 in St Mary's Church, Hemel Hempstead the parishe, deanery, diocese and province is in the code on the page. Click edit source to check. TSventon (talk) 10:09, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Problem with IABot

I've run this mny times, but when I ran it today on Storer College, I got a red box saying I was blocked from editing. Why, and what to do about it?

I saved a screen shot, you can see it here.

deisenbe (talk) 10:31, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T274050

Deisenbe, this is something of a known issue - see phab:T274050. You are not blocked, it's a bug in IABot. firefly ( t · c ) 10:33, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Company article

Hey guys,

I've got a task to create a page for our company as many of our competitors has their own pages on Wikipedia. Would you be able to guide me through the process, please?— Preceding unsigned comment added by KaneHa (talk • contribs)

KaneHa I would suggest that you not attempt to create an article(not just a "page") about your company. Creating a new article is hard for editors unaffiliated with the subject, as you have a severe conflict of interest and are a paid editor(which you must formally disclose per the Terms of Use, click for instructions), it is even harder for you to write one. To merit an article, your company must recieve significant coverage in independent reliable sources that have chosen on their own to provide it(no press releases or annoucements of routine business activities), showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. It is usually very hard for company representatives to summarize only what others say about the company; Wikipedia is not interested in what a company wants to say about itself, because you can do that on your own website. That your competitors merit articles does not automatically mean that your company does too, please read other stuff exists. It depends on the sources. It could also be that your competitors do not merit articles, but that those have not been addressed by volunteer editors.

If your company truly merits a Wikipedia article, independent editors will take note of it in independent sources and choose on their own to write about it. Trying to force the issue doesn't usually work. Also note that a Wikipedia article is not necessarily desirable. 331dot (talk) 12:10, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Note also, KaneHa, that not one of your competitors "have their own pages". Wikipedia may have articles about them, but the articles do not belong to them, are not for their benefit, and do not necessarily say what they want them to say. --ColinFine (talk) 14:14, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

And have not necessarily been written by them in the first place, but probably by completely unconnected and uninvolved editors who simply don't care about the OP's task to write a Wikipedia article. JIP | Talk 14:23, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

ARTICLE

Hi, I am new to Wikipedia, I am trying to create an article on a close person to me but for some reason it does the let me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ninjagokfc (talk • contribs)

@Ninjagokfc: New users can't directly create articles in mainspace. You should read Your first article, and understand that the subject you want to write an article about must be notable by Wikipedia's standards. Your closeness with the person could be considered a conflict of interest, and might need to be declared. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:38, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

I committed (perhaps) a mistake. How to solve this?

Hi. I created 2021 Ghana gay arrests but I checked and there's ReleaseThe21 which is shorter and has some problems about the same issue. What should be done? I beg pardon for not checking thoroughly enough to see that it already existed in some sort of way, though very difficult to find. Hope to be helped. Thanks. CoryGlee (talk) 15:52, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Merge the two articles. I will put merging templates on them. Sungodtemple (talk) 16:00, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Sungodtemple, Hi and thank you my friend, though, I'm afraid that my article, which does not use bare URLs and is more thorough on background will get lost into the other article. How does the merge in this case work? Regards. CoryGlee (talk) 16:09, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

CoryGlee A merge is done by someone reading both articles, and adding information that is in one but not the other to the destination article, then redirecting the extra article to the merged article and putting templates on the talk pages for attribution purposes. They should ensure consistent citation styles and such at that time. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 16:29, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Oh nice then thx. CoryGlee (talk) 16:39, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

getting verified.

I have my cell phone listed as my contact source However when customers want to buy something I an't get the code on my phone. I went on to verify it and when i put the number in it said this phone had too many user sources. Its the only phonei have. what am i suppose to do.the want me to give them another phone number. I only have one cell phone. I am totaly confused. There seems to be nobody to call about this matter. I have lost several sales because my number cant be verified.

This is the Wikipedia help desk. We answer questions about how to use Wikipedia. We can't help you with your cell phone; you may wish to contact your cell phone provider. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:13, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge

Is ref number 28 viable - it's not the Daily Mail. Thanks for help please remove if not OK.

Please clarify your question. The link in ref 28 goes to the Daily Mail, but it also says it is from "Mail on Sunday". Is it supposed to link somewhere else? Mail on Sunday is also not reliable, per WP:MAILONSUNDAY. RudolfRed (talk) 23:55, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

@Srbernadette: I undid your edit that added that source. You can fix it yourself next time by going to page history and clicking the "undo" link for the edit you want to remove. RudolfRed (talk) 00:01, 12 June 2021 (UTC)