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May 20

Inappropriate edits

Hi. I was looking at this page

HooplaKidz

and found it was filled with all sorts of obviously inappropriate edits. Looks like a bot did it?? I can’t make heads or tails of the instructions on how to report this kind of activity but think it should be addressed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.20.53.234 (talk) 00:49, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

A bot made the most recent edit to that article, but other editors added the vandalism. I have removed it. 331dot (talk) 00:51, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Help with content work

Hi, I've mainly spent time doing cleanup and other work and want to dip my toes into content creation/improvement. I'm not really sure how best to do some expansion work. One area I have trouble with is turning data and lists into prose (or even if that's necessary): see Ajax, Ontario#Communities of Ajax as an example. I'm also having trouble finding info in general and am wondering what to do: in the article I'm trying to improve at User:Eviolite/sandbox, I've hit a wall as all of the sources for things such as attraction/recreation and economy are promotional or otherwise self-published (in the case of the economic section, most of the info comes from the companies or the town's commerce board itself, which obviously stand to gain from publishing info). I've been pointed to newspaper archives and archive.org, but none seem to have anything recent at all for the area (the city's only newspaper closed some years ago and their site was usurped, while Google's news archive and other sources available at the Wikipedia Library come up blank). In this case, would it be better to only include brief snippets of factual info? I'm not very comfortable with determining which info should be included in something like a "recreations" section as well, given that a city will have tons of attractions of varying subjective notability. Any pointers would be appreciated. Thanks! eviolite (talk) 01:54, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Everyone keeps saying "apple music" but it doesn't have lengths?

I've been keepin an eye on Scaled and Icy for a while now, and people kept adding tracklists without a source (to an unreleased album). I added a comment saying please provide a source, because before editors were just saying "apple music" in their edit summaries.

Now someone actually provided a link, but I'm very confused. Here is the link. [1]

The track lengths (other than the singles) are not there! I don't understand why people keep adding it? I think it could be a regional difference which is why I haven't immediately reverted the edit. Can anyone confirm the added track lengths or shed light about any possible regional differences on Apple Music? Thanks so much. Mcguy15 (talk, contribs) 02:05, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Mcguy15, that page shows lengths for a few tracks (those that offer a preview) for me. Presumably lengths would be shown for all tracks if someone were to have an account/subscription. LittlePuppers (talk) 02:38, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

@LittlePuppers: Yep I know, those are the singles. It's an unreleased album, so I'm not sure a subscription would get you anywhere. Anyone happen to have an Apple Music subscription that can verify this? Mcguy15 (talk, contribs) 03:19, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

"Apple music" is not a published source. This is not an acceptable way to cite information. --Jayron32 18:17, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Account Name in Red Color

Hi My Account name is in Red Color & it has been like this since ages. I submitted an article back in 2013-14 about Family Hospital Heart Clinic which was I think NOT published & an accusation of personal projection was made. I am a regular reader of Wikipedia & no doubt it is a treasure of information for me. Please help me restore my account to Normal.

Thank you

Hello, click on the red link that is your name and type create your own user page, this should create a blue link! Another thing, please don't list emails, instead, sign with four tildes (~~~~). Heart ^(talk) 05:01, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Mobin18. To add to what HeartGlow30797 said (they didn't ping you so you might not have seen their reply): the redlink doesn't say anything about your account: it merely says that your user page doesn't exist, because you haven't created one. There is no requirement to have a user page, and some long-term prolific editors choose not to create one. If you do choose to create one, please see User pages for what kinds of thing you may put on it. --ColinFine (talk) 09:52, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Editing our coops page

I work at Suma https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Suma_(co-operative)&gettingStartedReturn=true , we are a workers coop so we all work and won the business. One of our web team had tried to edit the Suma page in the recent history but his changes were rejected (and he was banned from editing). We would like to at least add to the page as it is out of date, and in some places wrong. Would changes from our workers be rejected normally?

We would just edit the page, but are wary of it being rejected again, although also the page is not correct which feels like unless you are a worker you could not update it properly. Advice would be appreciated.

Thanks— Preceding unsigned comment added by Breadfortogo (talk • contribs) 20 May 2021 07:30 (UTC)

Hello Breadfortogo and welcome to Wikipedia! Now, WP has some fairly strict rules about WP:Conflict of interest editing, but while you can't control the article, it's quite possible for you to have influence. I suggest you check WP:Edit requests and make such requests at Talk:Suma (co-operative). Try to make them in form of "I suggest this change in this section based on this reference (WP:RS)." You can also try to ask for help and advice at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Yorkshire. Hope this helps. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:54, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Pinging Keith D if you're interested. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:01, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Can't upload an image

I am trying to upload the logo of an aid organisation to Wiki Commons. But I keep getting a message saying 'Wikipedia can't tell whether' it's appropriate.

What can I do?

Read over c:COM:L to see if the image would be allowed there. If it doesn't, stop bother trying. If it does, you can use their upload wizard. Victor Schmidt (talk) 14:12, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Rfrokeeffe, logos don't go on commons, they go on WP itself, see WP:LOGO. I think you only are allowed to upload it if the aid organisation already has a WP-article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:08, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Draft Review

Hi! Just wanted to see if anyone could review my draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Breaktime_(organization) I submitted it 3 months ago. Thank you WikiSpitfire (talk) 13:44, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

WikiSpitfire As noted in the submission notice, "This may take 5 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 5,178 pending submissions waiting for review." It's not a queue; volunteers pick drafts to review in their free time. There isn't any way to "jump the line", so you will need to continue to be patient. Do you have a particular need for a speedy review? 331dot (talk) 13:53, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

No I don't have a particular need. Just wanted to check in. I will continue to be patient then, thanks! WikiSpitfire (talk) 14:04, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Attempting to Edit Content

Hello,

I am attempting to edit content for my client immaculate-heart-academy and a bot keeps reverting the changes. Can someone please assist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carusodigital (talk • contribs) 14:15, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

@Carusodigital: Since they are your client, you are a paid editor (WP:PAID), with a conflict of interest (WP:COI). Not a problem, just a fact. Please comply with our mandatory requirement that you declare your paid status. Please do not edit the article directly. Instead, use the {{request edit}} mechanism. Make your requests on the article's talk page. Secondary issue: your user name appears to be the name of a organization, not an individual. Please abandon that username and create a new one that complies with our guideline (WP:USERNAME). Do this before your declare your paid status under your new username. If you have any problems, come back here. -Arch dude (talk) 15:10, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

((edit conflict)) Carusodigital, read WP:COI and WP:PAID very carefully and follow the instructions there. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:11, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

By the way, Carusodigital, your edits weren't reverted by a bot, but by experienced human volunteer editors. Please understand that Wikipedia is not interested in what your client says or wants to say about itself: what it is interested in is what people who have no connection with your client, and have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of your client, have chosen to publish about your client. --ColinFine (talk) 10:01, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

change my old article ( New Article is Darveshpur Shikarpur Bulandshahr Uttar Pradesh )

Sir today create new article Darveshpur Shikarpur Bulandshahr Uttar Pradesh my article not proper showing wrong popup user page please solve my new article i am not understand about this thank you --Darveshpur (talk) 15:50, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

References

References

You've been told before that the proper place for that draft article is Draft:Darveshpur, Uttar Pradesh. You also need to cite some reliable sources for the content of the article. I'll take care of moving the current version to the draft area for you, but please work on it there, not on your user page. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 16:16, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Phelan Cemetery

hello good morning, my name is Patricia. My family and I recently lost my sister in a horrible car accident, we are trying to get a hold of anyone and a phone number from the Phelan Cemetery. We would like for the last resting place for my sister to be here at Phelan Cemetery. Please we need some information.

                                                              desperately need information,
                                                                      Patricia cisneros

I'm sorry to hear about your loss, but this page is for asking questions about using Wikipedia, it is not a general question asking forum. You may wish to use your preferred search engine like Google to find information like that. 331dot (talk) 16:06, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I'm very sorry for your loss, this must be a difficult time for you. First of all, you are at the help desk for Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia anyone can edit. This help desk is for questions about using or contributing to Wikipedia. We are not affiliated with Phelan Cemetery in any way. Assuming you are inquiring about the Phelan Cemetery in Bastrop Texas; I can't locate a phone number for them online. I would suggest you contact a mortuary in the area and see if they can put you in touch with the cemetery to make the necessary arrangements for the internment. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 16:11, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Copy-paste issue not working correctly

I recently edited the List of Nintendo Switch games (A-L) list and others along the other list of games, and I cannot seem to correctly copy and paste as I tried to highlight something on there, and when I try and paste something, it deletes the highlighted part of it. I haven't had that issue late last year until now. I had switched to the Mobile view and apparently it still has that problem. I thought it was my phone or carrier. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 18:38, 20 May 2021 (UTC)Zacharyalejandro

Editing talk pages

I don't think I'm very experienced yet, so almost all of my edits have been on talk pages. And on talk pages, I have mostly been answering people's questions about the subject that the page talks about. For instance on M4 Sherman page, I responded to the question of whether the Sherman was good or bad(which is a subjective issue anyway). And sometimes I ask my own questions to see if there are poeple who are smarter than me who are willing to help me understand more about what I asked(which is usually history). But recently, I have been getting a lot of reverts from one user who says my edits are disruptive and wrote that I could be blocked from editing without warning. I understand that talk pages are meant for improving the article page, but a huge number of stuff on talk pages is not about the article pages anyway. I want to abide the rules and I want to learn history too. Is there anything I can do to achieve both of these things without getting blocked by other users?Blamazon (talk) 19:36, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a forum or a social media platform. The talk pages of articles are for improving the article, not discussing the subject of the article. If somebody tries to get a discussion about, say, the M4 Sherman tank itself, don't play along. Just refuse to cooperate. Such discussions are for any of the many question-and-answer sites like Quora and Reddit, not for Wikipedia article talk pages. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:24, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

I know, I've been told that a lot. But how should I respond to users that threaten to block my edits?Blamazon (talk) 20:29, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Blamazon, to answer your first question, you could read some articles you are interested in, do some online research and try to improve the articles. For your second, all I can suggest is apologise and abide by WP:NOT#FORUM in future. TSventon (talk) 21:00, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Location on infobox map different in different langauge.

The location in the infobox settlement shows different in Isizulu than English, even though the coordinates are the same.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gowsaweyne https://zu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gowsaweyne

I notice the two infoboxes use different methods for setting the coordinates. One uses the coordinates parameter and the other uses latd/longd etc. My guess is that is making a difference somehow in where the pin gets placed. RudolfRed (talk) 22:30, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

If you click on the coordinates, the map at GeoHack in both cases show the same location for the pin. I would ask at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) MB 00:38, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

What am I doing?

Hi,

I am confused on what I am doing here. I am supposed to be editing Demaratus I think. I want to change some information on the lead, but I don't know where the original writer of that information got that information. I am completely lost.

ZuesChill, in theory the information in the lead is a summary of the rest of the article, where you will find the references. In the case of Demaratus only two modern works are mentioned, so you could try those.

If you made your question more specific, it might be easier to answer. Also please sign any statement you post here by placing ~~~~ at the end of your post. TSventon (talk) 01:54, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Guadalupe, Colorado

On the article for Guadalupe, Colorado, the geographical coordinates are not displaying properly at the "title" position at the top of the page. How can I fix this? Thank you, Jeffrey Beall (talk) 22:07, 20 May 2021 (UTC).

@Jeffrey Beall: This is one of the issues being discussed at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Font sizes all over the place. Be patient, and with any luck the technical people will work out how to fix it. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:23, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Ok to remove template message?

Hello, I added numerous inline citations to this article and wanted to see if it would be ok to remove the corresponding template? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Renzi?oldformat=true Thank you!Metalox1961 (talk) 23:34, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Metalox1961, yes. It seems reasonable to remove the template now. However, the later sections like Exhibition lacks citations. So, either you can try adding citations there or you can replace the existing template with {{more citations needed}} template. Lightbluerain❄ (Talk | contribs) 01:51, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Lightbluerain❄ (Talk | contribs) Thank you for your help; I replaced the template as suggested