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October 29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_mapping

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_mapping — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.102.74.237 (talk) 00:52, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Do you have a question about how to use or edit Wikipedia? Eagleash (talk) 01:29, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Determining cross-sections of articles for different languages

Hi, I was wondering if there was a tool that I could use to determine what articles existed across different languages. Not for individual articles, as I am familiar with interlanguage links in the sidebar, but more along the lines of "these are all of the articles that have pages in (for example) English, German, and Spanish" or something like that. I was wondering how that could assist with translation of articles to see what articles are considered notable in another Wikipedia that could have a place on the English Wikipedia, and just thought that would be a useful tool. No idea if such a thing exists though. Thanks! Jay eyem (talk) 03:48, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@Jay eyem: Wikidata is a sister project that is a structured database. You can create and run queries against the database to answer questions like this. -Arch dude (talk) 04:03, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

flowers

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@Sari2491: Hi there! Did you have a question? (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) GoingBatty (talk) 04:34, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

See cryptography. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:15, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

my self

My name is : abhijit kisan gharat — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhijit gharat (talk • contribs) 03:59, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@Abhijit gharat: Hi there! Did you have a question? (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) GoingBatty (talk) 04:34, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

flowers

flowers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nisha Chalke (talk • contribs) 04:01, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@Nisha Chalke: Hi there! Did you have a question? (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) GoingBatty (talk) 04:35, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

uploading non-free replacements for non-free images

hello! i understand that under WP:F, copyrighted, fair-use photographs can be used to identify article subjects or a large quantity of that article's discussion. however, if a non-free image is subpar in its representation, would it be fair to upload a replacement non-free image (of course, only if a free version is not available) and let the former image be deleted? for instance, the infobox image used at Wedding dress of Grace Kelly is filed under a non-free use rationale to identify said dress, but only shows the top portion of the gown and the veil. if a user believes it would be better represented by a different non-free image showing the full bodice, could they upload it as a replacement? thank you so much for your help.--Bettydaisies (talk) 04:31, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Simple answer - yes. Provided the same criteria are met, a better image is a better image. Be aware that that only applies for the context of the image, as we have rules around the quality of the image themselves. If, however, there is a better image to show the subject, such as a wider scope, or better context, that is fine. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 07:32, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Trying to put my photo on my wiki page not working.

Hello this is actor Christopher Holden someone has there photo up on my info when you look me up on google. how do I put my correct photo up on wiki I tried and its not letting me. My correct photo is on IMDB or my FB thank you. Is there someone that can help me or do it for me that would be wonderful thanks. If you can use my IMDB photo for reference that would be great.

Actor Christopher Holden brother of actress Laurie Holden, Michael Anderson Jr. and stepson of Director Michael Anderson. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cwholden (talk • contribs) 06:28, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Our article on Christopher Holden has no picture of you or anyone else. However, when I do a Google search for "Christopher Holden", Google gives me a biography of you taken from and credited to Wikipedia, but accompanies it by a picture of a professor of psychology of the same name. Google often makes this kind of mistake, and we here at Wikipedia have no control over it. You may be able to get the mistake corrected by complaining to Google. Maproom (talk) 07:05, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Pinging Cwholden.   Maproom (talk) 07:07, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Alternatively, if you own the license to an image of yourself, and are happy to release it under a compatible license to Wikimedia Commons, we could then have an image of yourself on the article about you. Of course, you would have to own the copyright, and also provide us with the image correctly. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 07:30, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@Cwholden: You can use Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard to donate a photo. Note that because you have a conflict of interest (COI), you should not be editing the Christopher Holden directly. Instead, you should declare your COI on your user page and then post suggestions on the article's talk page - Talk:Christopher Holden - with the {{request edit}} template (or use the Wikipedia:Edit Request Wizard). Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 13:05, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

I have nominated Christopher Holden for deletion, I can find nothing to support any notability, notability cannot be inherited from parents, step parents or step brothers. Theroadislong (talk) 14:11, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Fair use photo

Why I can't have fair use photo of living people? Can I have fair use photo on a traffic infrastructure like a highway or a railway station? Can I have fair use photo on a scenic view from a public road? Where to search the photos or videos resource that can use on Wikipedia? Thanks. Hmht45tgree3d (talk) 08:14, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@Hmht45tgree3d: I know it's annoying, but the reason is that all the time a person is alive, a photograph can be created that can be released on a Wikipedia compatible licence (WP:NFCCP point 1). The same applies to the other scenarios you mention. For a railway station, if the building has been demolished or substantially altered in appearance, then a fair use photo may be allowable. A fair use image is used in the Thelnetham Windmill article, where a photograh of the derelict mill before restoration is used to show the reader the condition of the mill before restoration started. Mjroots (talk) 08:42, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@Hmht45tgree3d: We restrict "fair use" because we try hard to obey copyright law. The copyright of each of those images is owned by someone, and "fair use" means we are using the image without the copyright owner's permission. The law surrounding "fair use" is complicated, so we use a very narrow interpretation. Among other rules, we say that if someone could in theory create a functionally equivalent image and license it to us, then we cannot use a "fair use" image. So, if you want an image of traffic infrastructure, then go out with a camera and make one, or ask another Wikipedian to do so. -Arch dude (talk) 15:01, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@Hmht45tgree3d: Your best resource for images you can use here is Wikimedia Commons. Historical pictures from before 1927 are in the public domain, and you can find some good ones in books at the Internet Archive. This includes pre-1927 magazines like National Geographic. Pictures taken by US federal employees in the course of their duties (including military folks) are also in the public domain and can often be found on US government web sites. (NOT employees of state or local governments or of other countries). -Arch dude (talk) 15:13, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Historical pictures from before 1927 are in the public domain Sorry to further complicate things, but this only applies to images in the US, other countries have their own rules. And if it's an image from another country, it would need to be freely licenced in that country as well as the US. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:17, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@Hmht45tgree3d and Joseph2302: Copyright law is a total disaster. Wikipedia tries hard to comply. Our policies are horribly complex because of the state of the law. Please do not blame Wikipedia for this. Yes, I oversimplified, sorry. Please read Wikipedia:Image use policy carefully. -Arch dude (talk) 18:03, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@Hmht45tgree3d: I just discovered our page on PD image resources: Wikipedia:Public domain image resources. You might have some fun exploring these. -Arch dude (talk) 18:07, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@Hmht45tgree3d: .... and a more up-to-date dataset than the one quoted by Arch dude is at Commons:Free media resources/Photography. Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:18, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

unable to change my name

the editor is far too complicated for me and i was wondering if i could have my LinkedIn used as the source or some way to convert it to Wiki. I aded one picture but could not figure out to have my page named, "Richard A Hooker" Richard A Hooker (talk) 14:06, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@Richooker: Hi there! Your user page is not the place to post an autobiography - it is intended to be used to explain your Wikipedia editing activities. Writing an autobiography on Wikipedia is an example of conflict of interest editing and is strongly discouraged - see WP:AUTO. Trying to create a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, especially if you do not have any experience editing existing articles. You could read Help:Introduction and take The Wikipedia Adventure, invest time in improving other articles, then read Wikipedia:Notability (people) and follow the instructions at Help:Your first article and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography. However, an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 14:47, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

CITATION

Hi everyone,

I am contacting you regarding of help with company named ZSSK (Link : https://www.zssk.sk/en/) in Slovakia for the main purpose - manage the actual information about the company and upgrade the data, which can help the customers and the habitant as well for the project or for their own knowledge.

I had tried to change and update the newest data and information about the ZSSK profile in the English version. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%BDelezni%C4%8Dn%C3%A1_spolo%C4%8Dnos%C5%A5_Slovensko

I had tried to give after every paragraph citation with the source. I found out that you recommend "Avoid embedded links". Unfortunately, mandatory of our sources are web links. Do you mind giving me advice and showing examples of how to make it correctly?

Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZSSK general (talk • contribs) 14:10, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@ZSSK general: When you have a question, you may ask at the Help desk or the Teahouse, but please don't ask the same question at both places. Since you have already received responses at Wikipedia:Teahouse#CITATION, let's keep the conversation there. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 14:38, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia has 3 types of rules ?

I'm in a pinch regarding a conflict on w:ro:wikipedia:Cafenea#Spatiul_de_patrulare:_Discutii_Utilizator ro.wp. Some administrators are telling me there are 3 types of rules: policies, guidelines and customary rules. Customary rules being some that the community consented, but there's no proof of that (Arhive or discussion).

I suggested them to add it to the policies or guidelines as the current wording makes arhivation optional, but they are more prone of shutting me down. What am I even supposed to do ? Gold (talk) 20:07, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Romanian Wikipedia is out of our jurisdiction. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 20:12, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Each Wikipedia has its own rules. We can only help you with English Wikipedia. You will need to ask at ro Wikipedia for help RudolfRed (talk) 20:13, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

I actually need clarification rather than help on the ro.wp. As far as I know, all wikipedias are based on the policies and guidelines: Can there be a third category called customary rules (unwritten but somehow consented rules) ? Gold (talk) 20:32, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Each Wikipedia is run differently. What we do on English Wikipedia may not be the same as what they do at ro Wikipedia. That's why you need to ask there. There is WP:CONSENSUS and possibly something similar at ro:Wikipedia:Consens but, again, each Wikipedia does things differently. RudolfRed (talk) 20:46, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Policy and guidelines on inclusion/exclusion criteria for unrelated content

Can you link guidelines on inclusion/exclusion criteria for non-related content on a subject. For example, on an paragraph about oranges, adding a non explicitly related information about computers. The closest policy I found to that idea is WP:ONUS. Is there anything else?--Arw2 (talk) 20:27, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Seems like WP:UNDUE would possibly apply. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:28, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@Arw2:, it's hard to have a precise guideline about everything on the margins, so there may not be an incontrovertibly applicable rule (but we're not really rule-bound here anyway so no matter, use your best judgement or get consensus on the particular matter).

Can't say if adding material about computers to material about oranges is or is not called for in a particular instance without knowing more. Probably not, but not impossible I suppose. "Rapid industry growth required a better method of sorting apples from oranges, so the Orange Growers Association hired Jobs and Wozniak to develop the Orange Computer (which later went on to jump-start the home computer market) to do this, and this in turn helped the industry in further rapid growth" or something.

Many cases are arguable. If a person can say "adding this material would be a net benefit to the readership because ______", replacing the blank with a cogent and compelling argument that she can get people to accept (keeping in mind that extra material is that much more that the reader has to slog thru) then you're good to go.

Sometimes a compromise is to add the material in a separate section near the end of the article rather than intertwining it in with the main material so that interested readers have it but uniterested ones can skip it. Sometimes a pared-down or rewritten version of the material works. But if the material doesn't seem to fit in the article, don't put it in and roll it back per WP:BRD if somebody else does and have her make her argument. Herostratus (talk) 22:10, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

IP account's contributions page is triggering an anti-virus warning from Verizon.

When I go to the user contributions page for the IP account, 91.234.62.244, a warning message from Verizon appears on my screen, which says, "This site could be dangerous - Are you sure you want to go here? This site could contain viruses or other threats." The warning message is powered by McAfee and appears when I access the contributions page using my Samsung smartphone. I haven't tried accessing the page from any other devices, so I don't know if the warning message will be visible for others or not.

I've never seen a warning message like this on Wikipedia before. Does anyone know what may have prompted it? Is there any actual risk in going to that user's contributions page? --Jpcase (talk) 20:42, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@Jpcase: I don't see any message when I access the mobile view (as you provided) or the desktop view on my iPhone or PC. Do you get the same message when you access the desktop view? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/91.234.62.244 Do you see a similar message when attempting to access other IP users' contributions? GoingBatty (talk) 21:08, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: I do still see the same message when accessing the page with desktop view, but no, I've never seen the message on the contributions page for any other IP account. --Jpcase (talk) 21:20, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

I don't think there's any risk in going to that contributions page, no. My best guess is that some bad anti-virus (McAfee would fit that bill, according to what I've heard) has got that IP on its naughty list and because the URL to the contributions page contains the IP, it thinks it's dangerous. I'm just spitballing here, though. – Rummskartoffel 21:53, 29 October 2021 (UTC)