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April 9

soran ebrahim

--Zanko namdari (talk) 07:39, 9 April 2022 (UTC) hello recently i create a page for soran ebrahim an actor from kordestan but i can fix it and it stays in draft yet.what should i do ? i cant fix the issues that you want

Draft:Soran Ebrahim has been declined four times, chiefly because of the lack of sourcing, which is needed to establish notability and verify the material in the article. This needs a lot of work on the citations, as it is nowhere near being accepted as a new article in this form.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:51, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

The friend who doesn't want to email the Wikimedia Foundation (pt.2)

In a previous tread I'd talked about a friend who had given me some of his photos and he'd said that I could've stated that the photos are mine but he doesn't want to email the Wikimedia Foundation to confirm that he agrees I do this. The friend still doesn't want to do this and wants to use my camera to take the photos I can upload on Commons. Would the photos be mine if he took the photos with my camera? Dr Salvus 11:49, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

If he took the pictures using your camera, the copyright in them would be his, not yours. If you lied, and uploaded them claiming that you had operated the camera, you would both be breaking the law, but no-one would be likely to find out. Maproom (talk) 12:59, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

That. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:12, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

At this point Dr Salvus, any file you upload to either Wikipedia or Commons as your "own work" is going to be viewed suspiciously and most likely tagged for formal verification by WP:VRT even if you were to walk out your front door and take the photo of something as innocuous as a cloud in the sky with your own camera. What you're asking about is discussed somewhat in meta:Wikilegal/Authorship and Copyright Ownership#The Example of the Third Party Photographer, but it's such a gray area that trying to do something such as that seems more of hassle than it's worth and will come off as being more than a bit dodgy. Your friend seems to be OK about having his photo used on Wikipedia as long as nobody knows it's his photo, which makes me wonder whether such a photo would be really of any encyclopedic value to Wikipedia in the first place. Whether you'd be breaking some law isn't really a concern of the Community; so, if the two of you really want to know what you can and can't do, then you should find a copyright lawyer and explain things to them and see what they say. You and your friend both understand what is needed from a Wikipedia standpoint and that's not going to change no matter how many different scenarios the two of you try to come up with. The time has come to probably drop this and move on to something else because continuing to ask about hypotheticals is just wasting everyone's time and is likely eventually going to lead administrators and other experienced users to starting viewing all of your edits with a watchful eye. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:48, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

I'm a newcomer on Commons and I would not enjoy being constantly bitten, I just want to learn how to do, no one starts experienced and everyone can learn by making mistakes. Dr Salvus 14:31, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Commons and Wikipedia are separate projects with their own respective policies and guidelines. There's lots of similarities and overlapping when it comes to images, but there are also some big differences. You can ask about this on Commons at c:COM:VPC and perhaps someone there will give you different advice. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:41, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Banning/blocking

How can I request a ban/block user:2.28.85.103 who has been vandalizing? 𝕸𝖗 𝕽𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖚𝖗𝖙𝖑𝖊 (talk) 15:48, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

WP:AIV for routine vandalism, WP:ANI for more serious incidents.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 15:58, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

• Now blocked.[1]--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:00, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
• Mr Reading Turtle, see Wikipedia:Vandalism#For beginners for an introduction to dealing with vandalism. TSventon (talk) 16:05, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

How do I suggest an article to be made

I can't make one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7080:C53B:6D00:14A0:88C5:1DC8:B96F (talk) 17:47, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

See Your first article. But please have a look at the general notability guideline, as not all subjects are suitable for a full article, and it often leads to disappointment if a draft is turned down.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 17:58, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

There's Wikipedia:RA where you can request articles to be made, but I wouldn't expect there any activity in the near future, and there's guidance at H:YFA to creating one, but doing that is one of the hardest things one can do on Wikipedia. I strongly suggest spending your time editing existing articles beforehand to understand how Wikipedia works, and what Wikipedia's five pillars are. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:00, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

"Search within pages" tile breaks search interface on iPhones

In recent weeks, I've been running into a a problem with the Wikipedia search interface in recent versions of the iPhone Safari browser: If I tap on a suggested page, I invariably end up on the page that is *after* the page I want on the list of suggested pages.

I believe I've tracked down the problem: While I'm entering text into the Wikipedia search bar, there is a "Search within pages" link below the search bar, but above the suggested results. If I tap any of the suggested results, the "Search within pages" tile disappears (seemingly triggered on there no longer being an active cursor in the search bar), and all of the suggested page tiles move up towards the search bar. This rearrangement of the page layout appears to be executed before the tap location is mapped to a link, with the effect that I "misclick" my location in the list of suggestions. My hypothesis for the mechanism of this bug is supported by the results of tap-holding on the link I want -- the tiles rearrange as soon as the search bar is no longer an active text entry point, and then the Safari link-preview behavior for tap-hold takes over (acting on the next suggested page, not the one I wanted).

I haven't been able to find any reports online of this behavior. Am I experiencing an anomalous page behavior, or have people just been working around this bug and not reporting it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.21.224.243 (talk) 18:24, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

The best place to ask this sort of question is WP:VPT: in general the people who hang around at the Help Desk know about editing Wikipedia, but not about the details of the user interface. ColinFine (talk) 20:55, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

abusive content added to promote a couple of research papers

Could somebody please look into the activities of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/176.92.171.240: I reverted most of it, but I have no capacity to go through a deletion request for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayfly_optimization_algorithm. -- Quintus V. (talk) 21:28, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Quintus V., yes, it does look a bit odd. I've brought up the matter here; you may wish to comment. -- Hoary (talk) 05:44, 10 April 2022 (UTC)