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All Fun and Games

I would like to move the article All Fun and Games to draftspace without leaving a redirect. How do I do that? I know it’s possible because I’ve seen non-administrators being able to perform this task. The Film Creator (talk) 01:06, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

The Film Creator, moving without leaving a redirect is only available to administrators and page movers. You can either request that the page be moved without leaving a redirect at WP:RM or move the page yourself and then tag the resulting redirect with {{db-r2}}. Rummskartoffel 14:56, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Typo errors

I repeatedly see the same errors with respect to a geographic location in Canada. People fail to mention the province. For example, you recently posted a picture from "Toronto, Canada." That is geographically, typographically and politically incorrect. It is "Toronto, Ontario," or if you wish, you could say "Toronto, Ontario, Canada." Just as you would never say "Chicago, United States" or "Los Angeles, USA," it is not "Toronto, Canada." I suggest you go through the entire Wikipedia publication and eliminate these references as they are entirely wrong. Drsrwatkins1956 (talk) 01:24, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Drsrwatkins1956. You're correct that "[city], Canada" is usually a grammatical error; according to Wikipedia's Manual of Style (specifically MOS:CANPLACE), that format should only be used in articles about non-Canadian subjects. With some exceptions, such as protected articles, articles on Wikipedia can be edited by anybody, so I encourage you to be bold and fix these erroneous Canada place names yourself. Quid Est Squid (talk) 02:02, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

No, it should never be used in any article. No one ever says, "Denver, United States" Right?? I do correct it as often as I see it but I cannot keep up with the ignorance of the great United States of America. Those folks have the worst education system of any country in the world.... Drsrwatkins1956 (talk) 02:16, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

@Drsrwatkins1956: The English Wikipedia currently has more than 6.5 million articles. It is edited by unpaid volunteers, about 100,000 of whom edit in any given 30-day period and only a few of whom read this help desk. Each volunteer does whatever tasks they feel like doing. If you want to find and fix these errors, feel free to do so. If you want to try to organize a group effort try posting at Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada. -Arch dude (talk) 02:07, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

I will do that! Thanks! Drsrwatkins1956 (talk) 02:17, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Two questions:

Under the wiki project Canada, where should I make my comment? Discussion board? Then, I don't see how to even make an entry. Drsrwatkins1956 (talk) 02:22, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

@Drsrwatkins1956:Each Wikiproject is maintained by its own self-selected members and they are all slightly different. Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada seems to want you to add a new section on its talk page, which they refer to by three inconsistent names, but it's still the talk page. After you reach the talk page, click on the "new section" tab on the top of the page and add your idea. It appears to be an active project with a long history, so you may want to look at the archives of the talk page to see if this has come up before. -Arch dude (talk) 02:54, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Done; thanks Dude.

I don't use Wikipedia as much as I used to because I find it is too American biased. Drsrwatkins1956 (talk) 04:17, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

JPOPD1

I was wondering if this artist is able to have his wikipedia created. I manage him, and lately he has been taking off with his new single " satisfaction"

https://thesource.com/2022/04/30/jpopd1-is-on-fire-and-still-heating-up-scorching-the-airwaves-with-his-new-single-satisfaction/

https://rapperweekly.com/jpopd1-urgency-for-satisfaction/

https://hiphopsince1987.com/2022/music/when-you-talk-about-independent-musicians-making-it-big-entrepreneur-john-michael-veiga-aka-jpopd1-is-the-first-name-that-pops-up/

https://24hip-hop.com/today-wed-like-to-introduce-you-to-john-michael-veiga-who-goes-by-his-stage-name-jpopd1/amp/

https://thisis50.com/2021/12/09/jpopd1-moving-precise/

https://hiphopweekly.com/jpopd1-no-time-for-no-time/

https://newmusicweekly.com/introducing-jpopd1-and-his-new-sounds/

https://genius.com/Jpopd1-satisfaction-lyrics

https://www.amazon.com/TASTE-YOUR-LIPS-MEMOIRS-Book-ebook/dp/B08DC9KCNY

https://www.billboardhiphop.com/2021/12/jpopd1-young-zute-upper-echelon-of-new.html?m=1

https://www.wokechimp.com/jpopd1-deep-end

https://in.style.yahoo.com/jpopd1-feisty-daily-basis-172921293.html

https://yourdigitalwall.com/2020/09/15/jpopd1-has-charted-out-incredible-pristine-sounds-of-new-age-pop-in-the-enthralling-track-deep-end/

https://ratingsgamemusic.com/2020/07/31/jpopd1-to-release-taste-your-lips-soon/?amp

https://vizdumb.com/our-favorite-of-the-day-taste-your-lips-by-jpopd1/

https://wowentrepreneurs.com/tag/jpopd1/

https://republicnewsindia.com/entrepreneur-john-michael-veiga-aka-jpopd1-shares-his-take-on-building-a-successful-music-career/

https://wsvn.com/news/local/video-inside-miami-publix-captures-officer-repeatedly-punching-homeless-man-accused-of-stealing-chicken/amp/

https://disruptmagazine.com/jpopd1-out-on-bond/

https://ventsmagazine.com/2022/07/04/jpopd1-trending-and-empowering-women-worldwide-with-his-chart-topping-new-single-satisfaction/

https://open.spotify.com/artist/59m1tvYsA3DSGKJHtJc7Lr

https://instagram.com/jpopd1?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

https://www.facebook.com/JPOPD1

https://youtube.com/c/JPOPD1MUSIC

https://genius.com/Jpopd1-satisfaction-lyrics

https://music.apple.com/us/artist/jpopd1/1371148387 Jpopd1 (talk) 02:16, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Jpopd1. Are you the artist or the artist's manager? You need to make the mandatory Paid contributions disclosure. Then read and study Your first article. You will need to write a well-referenced, neutral draft, and submit it through the Articles for creation process. Wikipedia is not a venue for marketing, promotion or advertising. Cullen328 (talk) 02:32, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

im not aware of any of these processes. I am artist manager. Would you be ale to help me with this matter, or explain these contributions that I'm willing to submit. 2600:1700:4BB0:58C0:2DB9:5A81:342B:3BF1 (talk) 03:02, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

@Jpopd1: Most (perhaps all) of the links you posted above appear to be unsuitable for establishing musician notability, as Wikipedia defines it. More information at: WP:NBAND

In general, Wikipedia strongly discourages managers and artists themselves from trying to create their own articles. There are other places on the web that will better repay your efforts. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:44, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Spotify: worthless. Instagram: Worthless. Facebook: Worthless. YouTube: Worthless. Genius: Both the lyrics and biography are worthless (and the lyrics are almost certainly contributory infringement). Amazon: Worthless. iTunes: Worthless. It's like you didn't actually bother doing any sort of research and just laid a tonne of garbage sources in our lap because you can't be arsed to do so yourself, which means you also can't be arsed to actually put in the work on writing an acceptable article. New Music Weekly: Worthless. Billboard: Who the *&$^ wrote it? Wokechimp: Worthless. Yahoo: Murdered faster than Machine Gun Kelly by Killshot. Your Digital Wall: They explicitly disclaim ANY sort of fact-checking. Ratings Game Music: Shorter than this post I'm writing right now, which means it has dick to say. Visdumb: Astroturf bullshit. Wow Entrepreneurs: The tag search is worthless and the article it finds hides who wrote it like they're *(%%ing ashamed of being a black-hat SEO outlet. Republic News India: Who the *(%# wrote it?! WSVN: Says jack and shit about him, full stop, and Jack ragequit. Disrupt: These clowns wouldn't know an editor-in-chief if one defenestrated themselves from their office. Vents: Blahdedy-blahdedy-blah from the guy himself. The Source: Their editorial staff is garbage and has conflicts-of-interest. Rapper Weekly: Where's the editorial staff? Hip Hop Since 1987: More of this guy's hibbidy-huplaa. 24 Hip-hop: This guy loves hearing himself speak, huh? This is 50: Explicitly disclaims accuracy. Hip Hop Weekly: WHO. THE. FUCK. WROTE. THIS.

It's kinda hard to write an article, especially about someone who is presumably still alive, when all the sources you have are garbage. And if this is the best that is available in a Google search, the chance of JPOPD1 having an article is about as small as the chance of you being the last conflict-of-interest editor Wikipedia ever sees. We don't exist to do your damn marketing job for you (and in fact we can't), and writing a new article is a much steeper commitment than you will likely ever realise. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 03:46, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Jpopd1, if you are unable to read, study and comply with the various policies and essays that I linked to, then you cannot edit Wikipedia. Compliance with WP:PAID is mandatory and non-negotiable. Cullen328 (talk) 03:50, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Content manipulation: By interest groups, a concern...

As a lover of Wikipedia, since the very early days, I was dismayed to read this BBC News article this morning. It really bothers me. I have always had faith in Wikipedia, feeling it really did get its fact right, and balanced. Now I see that even Wiki can be manipulated. No one should have the right to insert their own bias, it becomes a "who has the most and fastest fingers" to skew the content to match their passion. And now, they have the audacity to boast about it on BBC. 'Tis Sad.

Refer: https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-59452614

(to make my case clear; I am not a Climate Change denier, but I do seriously doubt that it is CO2 emissions by Human Activity that is the cause of the current apparent increase in the Global Ambient) 2001:8003:857A:D300:D4C2:35C3:FE4:B986 (talk) 06:26, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Hello. I'm one of the editors featured in that article. Wikipedia has a bias towards the scientific literature. Even though some general media may present it otherwise, there is a near-complete consensus among experts that human activity via CO₂ emissions is to blame for global warming, see for instance this article. To insert the opinion of non-experts in our articles would give a false balance. Femke (talk) 06:59, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#Due and undue weight. If there is large scientific consensus for something then it is Wikipedia policy to reflect this. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:36, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Highlighted text automatically gets copied to clipboard

While editing an article, when I highlight some text, it automatically gets copied to my clipboard. If I copy some other text, then that text will not be pasted, rather, the highlighted text will. This is a recent problem, so I'm guessing it has something to do with my settings or it's a Wikipedia bug. Can someone help me fix this? Toofllab (talk) 08:39, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

More detail needed, what operating system and browser etc are you using?--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 08:55, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Windows 10 Pro. Version 10.0.18363

Google Chrome Version 103.0.5060.134 Toofllab (talk) 10:50, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

I can't replicate this fault with Windows 10 Pro and Google Chrome. By default, Chrome and Windows don't automatically copy text to the clipboard when it is selected. Some extensions to the browser or Windows might do this. Also try another browser such as Edge, or try a different computer, or a different website. It doesn't seem likely that Wikipedia is doing this or there would have been other complaints by now.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:09, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Can I cite someone's social media posts in their own biography?

I'm working on Draft:Zev Sebastian right now and not a lot of newspapers or websites are published about him. Generally the only good way to prove what im writing is true is to cite his mothers instagram account about him. Is this allowed? Is this suggested? Someone help please! JacobTheRox (talk) 10:10, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Instagram is absolutely NOT a reliable source, if there is a lack of sources it indicates that the topic may not be notable. Theroadislong (talk) 10:13, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

In an article otherwise based entirely on independent sources, it is acceptable to cite self-published sources for a small amount of non-controversial information. But that is as far as you can go with such sources. ColinFine (talk) 12:05, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Citing Sebastian's mother's Instagram account for anything regarding Sebastian would violate WP:BLPSPS: Never use self-published sources—including but not limited to books, zines, websites, blogs, and tweets—as sources of material about a living person, unless written or published by the subject of the article. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:02, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Short description won't change

Trying to change the short description of the article Pokémon to "Japanese anime television series", but the existing desc, "Pokémon variety shows", won't change. Any idea how to fix this? QuestFour (talk) 15:43, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

QuestFour It seems from what I'm seeing currently that you fixed this yourself. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:16, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

There were two extra {{short description}}. Somebody apparently thought it could be used on sections. I have removed them.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 16:25, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Missing Page/information

Between 1985 and 1988, I was stationed at the Naval Station Pearl Harbor, Marine Barracks Security Forces, Guard Company West Loch, Naval Magazine Lualualei. The ONLY reference anywhere in Wikipedia to the US Marines stationed on or around Pearl Harbor are in reference to the Dec 7th attack. The Marine Security Force at Pearl Harbor was established there in 1923, and was deactivated in 1993, YET THERE ISN'T ANY REFERENCE TO ANY OF THAT IN WIKIPEDIA!!

WHY NOT? There is a wonderful, colorful, vitally important, historically rich, story of the US Marines at Pearl Harbor, and yet, NOT ONE MENTION OF THEM. Not even a Google search will produce much information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrfireball (talk • contribs) 16:19, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Hello! Wikipedia is written by volunteers like you. I'm noticing some information post-WWII in Naval Station Pearl Harbor, but maybe it can be improved. If you have good reliable sources about the topic, WP:be bold and add them to a relevant article. Femke (talk) 16:33, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

But if "Not even a Gooogle search will produce much information" it will ba harder to incorporate such information into Wikipedia. Perhaps it is mostly in pre-internet printed books: those are perfectly good sources, provided they were published by reliable publishers; but you need access to a copy of the book to add information from it. Note that personal knowledge is not sufficient: we require all information in an article to be verifiable. ColinFine (talk) 16:47, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Apologies if I'm misunderstanding something – my background is more Army – but don't most, if not all, US naval bases have a contingent of Marines? If so, their presence at a particular base would only be notable, and worth mentioning in that base's article, if they had done something particularly significant there.

If they had, it might be mentioned in the article, or a separate article could be written about the incident, or (given suitable sources) a separate article could be written specifically about that marine establishment. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.201.73.20 (talk) 13:06, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Life orentation

The problem of substance abuse in South Africa — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.116.44.17 (talk) 17:22, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Is this about editing Wikipedia at all? —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 17:42, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Are non-free/premium sources allowed as citations?

Are non-free/premium sources or contents behind a paywall allowed as citations in Wikipedia articles? Debjyoti Gorai  (talk) 20:30, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes, though non-paywalled sources are preferred. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 20:34, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

As long as the source in question meets WP:RS and is used according to WP:RSCONTEXT, it can be cited per WP:PAYWALL. You might, however, have to clarify what the source says on the article's talk page if someone questions it's appropriateness. Reliable sources are required to be published and accessible; they're not required to be free. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:01, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Print size

How can I increase the print size of Wikipedia pages? The print is so tiny I can barely see it. I have a MacBook Pro with MacOS 12.4. 2600:1700:CF91:AE20:36:8DC5:72FD:267A (talk) 22:19, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

If you are referring to the size of characters on your screen, then this is a function of your browser. I'm not sure about your Mac, but on most browsers you use CTRL+ to increase size, CTRL- to decrease size, and CTRL0 to reset size to "normal". -Arch dude (talk) 23:19, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

On MacBooks, (assuming you are using a popular browser such as Safari or Chrome) you can press command (⌘) and plus or minus (+ or -) at the same time, to change font size. Oriiiiii (talk) 11:15, 25 July 2022 (UTC)