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March 14

Rename a page

Hello, I am trying to edit the page of my company, which has been created a few years back. We have just changed name and I wanted to edit the page title, but I don't have the option listed. Could you please let me know how to do so? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SaharaConservation (talk • contribs) 09:04, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

SaharaConservation Before we get into the name of the article about your company(not a "page"), you will need to change your username, please see your user talk page for information on how to do that. You also have policies that you need to comply with, please read about paid editing and conflict of interest.

Renaming an article requires a page move; this may be requested at requested moves. Note that Wikipedia does not necessarily use official or legal names, but uses whatever a topic is commonly called in reliable sources. In your case, a rename is probably all right, though. 331dot (talk) 09:19, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

The organisation's own website still refers to itself as "The Sahara Conservation Fund", so perhaps a move would be premature. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 09:44, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Accounts with lost passwords

User:Qian6666 is my first registered account. It was created in October 2019, but the password was lost in December 2019. Please edit the main page of this account to the following, then block it indefinitely to prevent it from becoming a SpamBot.

{{User Alternate Acct|Seele2021}} — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seele2021 (talk • contribs)

@Seele2021: Special:Contributions/Qian6666 shows no edits since November 2019. We don't block ordinary accounts when there are no signs of abuse or unauthorized access. Spammers can just create their own accounts anyway. You can place the code yourself so the page history confirms it was you. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:53, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Can I make a page for a musician here

Is it possible for me as a privat person (and wife to the artist) to make a wikipedia page for Danny Lee (Troubadour)? And would others be able to find information to fill in information about his days as a young singer? He started of singing and learned the guitar in adult life. How do I do this? Do I need to make a user for him spesifically or can I use my own user for this?

AHParsons — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ann Helen Parsons (talk • contribs) 14:08, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Ann Helen Parsons Creating a new article(not a "page") is the hardest thing to attempt on Wikipedia, and it is even harder with what we call a conflict of interest. Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about someone and what they do- this is an encyclopedia with criteria for inclusion. For musicians, that criteria is written at WP:BAND. Any article about your husband must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about(and not prompted by or based on materials by him) him, showing how he meets that definition of a notable musician. This is usually hard for people with a conflict of interest, as in essence you need to set aside everything you know about him and only write based on what others unconnected with him have decided to say about him. If you truly feel that you can do that, you may create and submit a draft at Articles for Creation.

Be advised that an article about your husband is not necessarily a good thing for him. There are good reasons to not want one. 331dot (talk) 14:12, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

@Ann Helen Parsons For an article to "stick", it doesn't have to be "complete" but it has to be good enough per WP:BASIC. What are the 3-5 best sources you know, that are at the same time reliably published (WP:RS), independent of Danny Lee and about him in some detail? This excludes blogs, wikis, his own websites/social media etc etc. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:32, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Ann Helen Parsons Aside from the "usuals" above, a couple of other things might be said in response to your inquiry.

First, probably the overwhelming majority of contributors--even the most successful and valuable ones--are "private persons." We might have--probably do have--various areas of expertise, but the best of us are writing for the love of the project. That said ...

You asked if you "need to make a user for him." I presume you meant a User Page. The answer is not only do you not need to, but you absolutely should NOT make a User Page for anybody but yourself. Contributions to Wikipedia are on record as being from this or that User (not necessarily one with an ID). Making contributions that are attributed to someone else could be very problematic. Given everything above--and no disparagement intended in any way--probably the third least appropriate person to be writing a Wikipedia article about someone would be that someone's spouse. The second least would be that person him- or herself. And I guess the least appropriate would be someone writing under a User account that he or she set up FOR the person being written about. Uporządnicki (talk) 18:48, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Uploading images

Hello, I am attempting to upload images to a Wikipedia site I am editing...I have permission to use the images but can't seem to be successful with it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am a novice at this and need some guidance. Thank you in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dalter1 (talk • contribs) 14:51, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Go to Commons:Special:UploadWizard and follow the instructions. At the end there should be something that says "to add this image in a article copy this", you then copy the aforementioned text, and place it in the given article. If you need any more help, or have questions, please feel free to ask! Sea Cow (talk) 14:54, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

What exactly do you mean by "I have permission to use the images"? Copyright is a complicated and unsatisfactory business, but I'm afraid the upshot is that "permission to use an image in Wikipedia" is almost always completely useless. In most cases, the only way that an image can be used in Wikipedia is if the copyright owner (who is usually the photographer, not the subject of the photo) must have explicitly licensed the image in such a way that anybody may copy or reuse it for any purpose (commercial or not) without requiring permission. If the owner is willing to license it in that way, they must either do so publicly (usually by publishing it on a website with a suitable licence) or directly to Wikimedia by uploading it themselves, or by sending a mail in a specified format - see donating copyright materials. Please see WP:image use policy for more information.

You have also not made explicit what the problem is that you are having. "I can't seem to be successful with it" is like telling a mechanic "my car won't go" and expecting them to be able to tell you the problem. ColinFine (talk) 15:29, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

You might want to consider, also, does whoever gave you "permission" to upload an image--presumably the creator of the image--fully understand the implications of allowing an image to which they own copyright to be uploaded to Wikipedia. I don't know all the details, but basically, they're granting a general license to use that image. Uporządnicki (talk) 18:54, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Extract encoded SVG

I am attempting many and many times to extract the svg logo from https://www.bofrost.it/index.aspx but is encoded inside the html code. How can I extract logo? Many, many and many thanks in advance for all you can do!!! --2001:B07:6442:8903:B950:1D4:DFED:2D7F (talk) 15:12, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

SVG images are encoded as text. The one you refer to is coded as <svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" viewBox="0 0 259.5 62.2" xml:space="preserve"><path d="m232.8 31.4 5.3 1.1 4.9-7.8 4.9 7.8 5.3-1.1 2.7-4.7-5.9-7.1 8.9-2.3.6-5.4-3.6-4-8.5 3.4.6-9.2-5-2.1-5 2.2.6 9.2-8.5-3.4-3.6 4 .6 5.4 8.9 2.3-5.9 7.1 2.7 4.6zM199.9 6.6h10.2v10.8h8.4v8.3h-8.4v10.7c0 3.4 1.8 4.6 5.2 4.6h3.2v8.8h-4.2c-9.6 0-14.5-3.3-14.5-12.2l.1-31zm-27.2 32.6c3.1 1.8 6.6 3.2 9.5 3.2 1.9 0 3-.6 3-1.9 0-4.7-15.6-1.7-15.6-13 0-6.5 5.1-10.8 12.8-10.8 4.4 0 8.2 1.5 11.8 3.4l-3.6 7.3c-2.5-1.5-5.2-2.3-8.2-2.5-1.9 0-3.2.7-3.2 1.9 0 4.4 15.6 1.7 15.6 13.3 0 6.5-4.5 10.5-12.7 10.5-2.4 0-4.7-.4-6.9-1.1-2.3-.7-4.4-1.6-6.4-2.8l3.9-7.5zm-25.4 2.6c4.3 0 7.9-3.1 7.9-8s-3.6-8.2-7.9-8.2-7.9 3.3-7.9 8.2 3.5 8 7.9 8zm-.1-25.1c10.3 0 18.6 6.8 18.6 17.1s-8.2 16.9-18.5 16.9-18.4-6.7-18.4-16.9 8.1-17.1 18.3-17.1zm-40.2.7h9.3v7.9c.7-5.2 4.6-8.5 9.5-8.5h1.2v10.1h-.4c-7 0-9.4 2.5-9.4 9.2v13.8H107V17.4zm-26.8 0h4.5v-2.1c0-8.2 5.1-13.1 14.1-13.1h4.2V11h-3.5c-2.6 0-3.8 1.3-3.8 3.9v2.4h7.4v8.2h-7.4v36.6H84.6V25.6h-4.5l.1-8.2zM59.3 41.8c4.3 0 8-3.1 8-8.1s-3.6-8.1-8-8.1-8 3.1-8 8.1c0 4.9 3.7 8.1 8 8.1zm0-25.1c10.2 0 18.4 6.8 18.4 17s-8.2 17-18.4 17-18.4-6.8-18.4-17 8.2-17 18.4-17zm-41 25.1c4.3 0 8-3.1 8-8.1s-3.6-8.1-8-8.1c-4.3 0-8 3.1-8 8.1.1 4.9 3.7 8.1 8 8.1zM10.1 46v3.8H0V2.2h10.9v18.1c2.1-2.2 5.5-3.6 9.9-3.6 9.2 0 16 6.8 16 17s-6.7 17-16 17c-4.3-.1-7.9-1.4-10.7-4.7z" fill="#0d194d"></path></svg>. Paste that into a text editor (such as Notepad) and save it as an .svg file. You will then have the copy you need. If you are going to use it, then remember it is likely copyrighted. Bazza (talk) 15:34, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Slightly related question, how do you find all that code/HTML/whatever? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 00:07, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

In Chrome, right click on the logo and select "Inspect". Other browsers probably have something similar.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:44, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) In this case I used a browser (Chrome) to view the page, right-clicked on the logo and selected "Inspect"; it showed me the SVG element which I pasted above. Should the element have been a link to the logo, then I could have followed that to display the image, right-clicked, and selected "View page source". You can try this at commons:File:Flag_of_Ukraine.svg. Bazza (talk) 09:45, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Image from National Museum

At 1854 - Walter Hunt's Patent Model of a Sewing Machine there is a high resolution image. Would it be automatically copyright free and able to be used on the Walter Hunt article? They make the image available as a high resolution image download.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:58, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

@Doug Coldwell: I'm not sure about automatic, since I think it would depend on when the photo of the object was taken. But, you should be able to use it no problem, because on that page it says "This media is in the public domain (free of copyright restrictions). You can copy, modify, and distribute this work without contacting the Smithsonian. For more information, visit the Smithsonian's Terms of Use page." If you have more copyright questions, try WP:MCQ where the copyright experts answer questions. RudolfRed (talk) 22:33, 14 March 2022 (UTC) RudolfRed (talk) 22:33, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

• @RudolfRed: Thanks. You were most helpful. Appreciate it.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:13, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

editing an article on everipedia

I have an account tjhartford80

the article is Michael Mistroff - bio

whether by phone or laptop the app doesnt let me edit my own article

how to fix it is a mystery — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:196:8902:4740:DD0F:F348:ACCD:1CD6 (talk) 22:31, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

You don't own any pages here and if you're referring to an article about you, you should not edit it at all, please review WP:COI about this issue. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 22:35, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

The username tjhartford80 doesn't seem to exist in any Wikimedia project, and there isn't an article on Michael Mistroff on here. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:36, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Everipedia is not affiliated with Wikipedia. You will need to ask for help there. RudolfRed (talk) 22:38, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Incidentally, if you're thinking that the Everipedia article about Mistroff would be a good fit for Wikipedia, you're mistaken. I have no comment on its subject (or on Everipedia), but that article about him would be utterly unsuitable here. -- Hoary (talk) 23:51, 14 March 2022 (UTC)