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May 16

Need to create page for Marci Collier Overstreet

{{UserboxCOI|1=Title of your draft}

Please help me create my page with the correct name. I’ve submitted the information more than once. I need help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macmama3 (talk • contribs) 02:01, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi Macmama3. If you would like to create an article about someone named Marci Collier Overstreet, then you can try as long as Overstreet satisfies Wikipedia:Notability (people) or Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. If you feel Overstreet is Wikipedia notable, then my suggestion to you would be to first read this and this, and then start working on a draft for an article as explained here. Once you feel your draft is ready for review, you can submit it for assessment. If you are somehow personally or professionally connected to Overstreet or have been asked by Overstreet of their representatives to create such a Wikipedia article, you should also take a look at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest for additional information that most likely applies to you. This doesn't necessarily mean that you can't try to create an article about Overstreet, but it might mean that there are more things you need to consider when doing so. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:27, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

@Macmama3: You seemed, judging by your sandbox, to be concerned that the Wikipedia article Atlanta City Council had Overstreet's forename as Marcia rather than Marci. I've made that uncontroversial change since their website confirms that simple fact. As to whether she is notable enough for a full article, that's another question, and Marchjuly has given you good guidance. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:36, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

museumvictoria.com.au needs update to museumsvictoria.com.au

Moved to Wikipedia:Link rot/URL change requests

 – * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:40, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Changing capitalization of a redirect page

The capitalization of the redirect page Linus media group (which redirects to a section of Linus Sebastian) should be changed to Linus Media Group (this is a minor gripe). When requesting to Move the page, it warns that Linus media group will redirect to the new "Linus Media Group" and to avoid creating double redirects. To me, this seems to imply that the redirects will be Linus media group → Linus Media Group → Linus Sebastian, which should be avoided.

Am I wrong about this? Is there any problem with moving the redirect? Is it even worth the effort?

Worst Username (talk) 02:36, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

It's generally pointless to move redirects. A redirect at Linus Media Group pointing to the same place already exists, so there is no need to do anything. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:38, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Ok. I didn't even realize that redirect already existed. It just bugged me that the search showed the incorrectly capitalized version. But this whole thing is of very little consequence anyway. Worst Username (talk) 02:44, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia page approval

I submitted a wikipedia page for approval about 5 months ago+. How can I find out when it will become active? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CINEMA143 (talk • contribs) 06:55, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

@CINEMA143 You will not like to hear this, but you didn't actually submit it. Assuming it's Draft:Eric Berger. Try this link: WP:SUBMIT. Also, Wikipedia itself and Linkedin are mostly useless as sources on WP, you should remove them and content based on them. Your hurdle is WP:BASIC, if you don't meet the demands there the article will not be accepted. If WP:COI applies to you, please follow the guidance there. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:23, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Ah, I see you did know about COI, never mind. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:25, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Does This Page Qualify For Speedy?

The article for Ammon Covino, one of the operators of SeaQuest, is nothing but a list of court cases which have been filed against him. While all the existing info is properly sourced, there's no biographical information about him, just the list of crimes. Would this be eligible for speedy as an "attack page?" Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 07:01, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

It doesn't look to me like it fits the G10 Speedy criteria. Looking at Wikipedia:Attack page, there seem to be two relatively separate ways to assess this: (1) It "exists primarily to disparage or threaten its subject". It's clearly not threatening. To say it is primarily to disparage the subject doesn't seem solid enough to speedy the article; there may simply be little notable information about him other than that determined by the courts. (2) It gives "biographical material about a living person that is entirely negative in tone and unsourced." The data may all be negative but the tone seems neutral, and in any case the data is sourced. - R. S. Shaw (talk) 01:04, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

References

Should references that require a subscription to view the page a reference links to, should it be allowed on Wikipedia? Toad40 (talk) 15:02, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Toad40 A paywall or any form of payment required to view a source is not a barrier to using it on Wikipedia, see WP:PAYWALL. 331dot (talk) 15:03, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

@Toad40 Some of the best sources out there are subscription based, e.g. scientific journals. Per WP:SOURCEACCESS Do not reject reliable sources just because they are difficult or costly to access. If you need help accessing a source there are places you can check, e.g. WikiProject Resource Exchange or The Wikipedia Library. 163.1.15.238 (talk) 15:21, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Companies Wiki Pages Are Still Not Up

Hi, I had a two wikipedia pages made about two months ago by this user for M3 Printing and Philadelphia Business Services. User page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Klikachova

I was just wondering how long they take to get posted (if of course they pass through moderators). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.14.201.154 (talk) 18:13, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Make sure that you are logged in before posting. 331dot (talk) 18:16, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

The last two draft by that account were declined, please monitor the drafts for comment. 331dot (talk) 18:18, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

And when you say you had them made, does that mean you paid that editor to create them? Joseph2302 (talk) 18:23, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Neither of those drafts demonstrates that either company meets Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). Not even close. The quality is poor. Cullen328 (talk) 19:50, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello. It sounds from your choice of words ("Companies Wiki Pages") that you have a very common misconception about Wikipedia: the idea that an article about a company (or anything else) is any way for the benefit of that company. It is not. It does not belong to the company, it is not controlled by the company, and it will not necessarily say what the company would like it to say. Please see WP:NOTPROMO and WP:PROUD. ColinFine (talk) 20:26, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Proxy Block Immediately Changed into One Year Block

I'm an OG editor since 2003. Not prolific lately, but I used to be.

I had an IP block due to proxy. I appealed. Admin denied, saying "no, you have a proxy". I realized I was using Apple Private Relay. I turned it off.

I'm still blocked, but now it says "blocked for 1 year" unrelated to IP. I guess that's a vandalism block. Can't imagine why I'd get that.

I'm not sure what's going on, and don't want to bug the admins again after they heard and rejected my appeal. Anyone have an idea? FWIW, no notices of any kind were posted on my "talk" page. O. Pen Sauce (talk) 18:42, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

@O. Pen Sauce: It doesn't look like your account itself has ever been blocked. Perhaps you should talk to whichever administrator you were talking to? It doesn't seem you've done so here on Wikipedia if I'm going by your recent contributions. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:18, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

@Tenryuu: Thanks! I wasn't really "talking" to an admin, I just got a high-handed verdict on my appeal (I understand...the people handling them are overwhelmed). However, suddenly, editing works. No idea why!O. Pen Sauce (talk) 19:45, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

@O. Pen Sauce: your non-proxy IP may be blocked and you might've been logged out briefly without realizing. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:47, 16 May 2022 (UTC)