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December 13

Ban Appeal

Earlier I was banned and I want to see if there was a comment made about my ban, How do I navigate to the comments page 76.144.33.67 (talk) 02:59, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

It doesn't appear that the IP you're using has ever been blocked or banned. I'm not sure what you mean about a 'comments page' either – you might be thinking about a user talk page? You might try typing "User talk:Username" (with your username, of course) into the search bar to access that page. Tollens (talk) 03:09, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

If you have a Wikipedia account that had been banned, then you are violating your ban by editing logged out. You must stop doing this. As exlained above, go to the user talk page of the banned account, and follow the instructions there very carefully. I recommend that you read and study the Guide to appealing blocks until you understand it thoroughly. Cullen328 (talk) 09:00, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

sim 190.242.24.254 (talk) 22:40, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Spellchecking

Hello, Wikipedia. My question is, is there a tool specifically for spellchecking, and looking for grammatical errors in articles? Thank you. Kimosaabe (talk) 06:40, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Kimosaabe. I recommend that you read Wikipedia:Spellchecking to start. Cullen328 (talk) 09:03, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Sylva Koscina#Death

Very quick question: I deleted "aged 61" and "from" and added "at the age of 61" and "of", but the sentence doesn't seem to have improved much; any opinions on how to improve it? JackkBrown (talk) 12:20, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Yes. Read wikt:aged, then restore the sentence to its original Koscina died in Rome in 1994, aged 61, from breast cancer. You can replace from with of if you wish, although I would choose to retain the former. Bazza (talk) 14:13, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Where can I ask for a Korean source to be translated?

This one, for NW Rota-1. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:53, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Cited sources do not necessarily need to be in English, you can insert the translation of the title when adding a new citation. See WP:RSUE. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 13:05, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

WP:RSUE links to Wikipedia:Translators available, which includes a Korean-to-English section. TSventon (talk) 13:39, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Podcast companies list

You are missing the largest podcast production firm for corporations and government in the world. Obieandax.com 99.229.243.189 (talk) 16:00, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi IP editor. The notability criteria for organizations is at WP:NORG; if you think this company meets the criteria, and you have reliable, independent, secondary sources with significant coverage of the subject, then Help:Your first article has instructions on how to get an article started. 57.140.16.1 (talk) 16:27, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Why are articles about places in Scotland often stubs & have some weasel words? Or even capital letters which I say means poorly written?

Are they just poorly written or not? Or created by Scotish editors who are beginning Wikipedia? This is also the case of many Indian village/town/state district articles. Many of the words have capital letters, which means it’s poorly written. Why? —The Industrial Me 1563 (talk) 16:13, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

So, respond now ASAP if you are on the help desk right now! —The Industrial Me 1563 (talk) 16:26, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

There are many poor quality article on Wikipedia, roll up your sleeves and start improving them. Theroadislong (talk) 16:29, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

But why? Give me some reasons in such Scottish & Indian articles. —The Industrial Me 1563 (talk) 16:42, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

@The Industrial Me 1563 Maybe because the population of India is 300 times the population of Scotland and hence has many more editors here? You are going to have to give some actual articles you believe are poor if you want other editors to try to improve them. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:55, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Looking at the OPs contributions [1] it would appear that WP:NOTHERE applies, I'll stop feeding the troll. Theroadislong (talk) 16:59, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

_@Theroadislong 2409:4043:4C0B:41EA:7471:79FF:FEFB:805A (talk) 10:09, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Trying to add my Tallest Stilts Record

I am having difficulty trying to make a submission. I find do so is very complicated. I went throught the tuter section with no success. I did put a draft in with ref. to Guinness World Records with prove of my accomplishment. Not sure if it went in for review. Thanks Stilts 55 (talk) 16:25, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Your draft here Draft:Worlds Tallest Stilts has no content, it is doubtful that the topic is notable however. Theroadislong (talk) 16:28, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

@Stilts 55, your draft has not been submitted for review, and seems to have no content at all. What sources do you have that cover yourself and your accomplishment? 57.140.16.1 (talk) 16:29, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

If you can find several places where people wholly unconnected with you, and not prompted or fed information on your behalf, have chosen to write in some depth about what you have done and been published in reliable sources, then it is possible that an article could be written; but it sounds a bit like WP:BLP1E to me. ColinFine (talk) 16:14, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

O que é Estáter e uma das primeiras moeda s?

Moedas comercial. Sueliit (talk) 19:45, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

@Sueliit, the help desk is a place to ask questions about using or editing English Wikipedia. For questions about currency, I'd recommed asking at WP:RD/H (and it would be helpful if you could ask in English, but those folks might just use Google translate if you don't, as I just did). 57.140.16.1 (talk) 20:06, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Wiki criteria

Hi Wiki, I wanted to ask what is the criteria for a personal insertion? I was hoping to add a personal insertion for a departed family member and although not famous person , he was very successful local business man from the UK who has a very interesting background and I would like to have his story told for prosperity and longevity. I look forward to your response. Mr Kevin Moore. KMoore244 (talk) 21:30, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm not exactly sure what do you mean by personal insertion. If you want to create an article about a person, make sure that there are multiple significant coverage of the subject from reliable and independent sources (See WP:NBIO). And since you mentioned that it is a family member, you must declare your conflict of interest when creating the article. If you don't have prior experience of writting a Wikipedia article, it is advised to make a draft first and waits for approval of experienced editors.

If you want add some material about a person to an existing article, again, make sure that the content you add can be backed up with sources from reliable and independent sources. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 21:50, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

@KMoore244 Relevant criteria are briefly summarised at WP:NOTMEMORIAL. Wikipedia is not concerned about fame but equally is not a place to memorialise someone. You business man would need to meet the relevant wikinotabilty guideline based on published sources meeting these criteria. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:31, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

If the gentleman doesn't pass the notability criteria, as seems likely, I recommend you write his story on a free blog hosting site such as Substack. --Viennese Waltz 09:15, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Aria di Festa

Should "Aria di Festa" be written in italics? JackkBrown (talk) 22:36, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

JackkBrown, you know more about this issue than the vast majority of English Wikipedia editors, so why don't you just make that determination yourself? Just follow the Bold, revert, discuss process. Cullen328 (talk) 01:24, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

MOS:BADITALICS: A proper name is usually not italicized. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:47, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Abbey

"Abbey" of "Abbey of Leno" in lower or uppercase? Same in "Abbey of San Zeno, Verona"; I noticed that on these pages there is lowercase, while on the others there is uppercase. As always, Wikipedia doesn't apply consistency... JackkBrown (talk) 23:09, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

It's clearly a proper name, like Kingdom of Sicily. I've changed it accordingly. Thank you for pointing it out. Maproom (talk) 23:27, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

@Maproom: also in the second article; remember to edit the whole "Abbey of" articles; I could do it, but I'm away now and since you started it, you could do it. Thanks in advance. JackkBrown (talk) 23:50, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Maproom might choose to do it. But you are the one concerned (I might say "obsessed") with this, so why do expect anybody else to do it? ColinFine (talk) 16:16, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@ColinFine: if there were no "obsessed" users, the encyclopaedia would be much less accurate. JackkBrown (talk) 16:32, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Possibly. But most of them quietly get on with their obsession, without keeping on coming back to ask "Is this all right?" "Should I do this?" "Can somebody do that for me?" ColinFine (talk) 18:57, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@ColinFine: for this very reason, that of questioning even my own modifications, makes me a much more precise user than another "obsessed" user. JackkBrown (talk) 19:45, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

It also makes a lot of work for other people to answer your questions, often with references to the exact same concepts, policies, and places in the Manual of Style.
Especially when it is expressed this way, "precise" is not synonymous with "constructive". I do my fair share of obsessing over style details, but they are not the most important part of any article, and I try to do my due diligence so that I know when I'm off-base and when I'm not on a given style point.
It is not the most helpful to the encyclopedia when someone wants to be precise, but constantly relies on others to tell them what they should be precise about. If I can speak for others, I sense it may be getting tiring for other help desk volunteers like it is for me. Remsense留 03:27, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

JackkBrown, you say "Wikipedia doesn't apply consistency" as if "Wikipedia" has a single mind, but "Wikipedia" has been compiled over more than 20 years by the efforts of hundreds of thousands of different individuals – currently, in any calendar month over 100,000 different people perform edits.

Even though standards have been laid down (and evolved over years, not made imprimatur from Day one) most contributors will not have managed to follow them perfectly, and this is fine, because creating articles and getting correct, verifiable information into them is much more important than worrying about the cosmetics of presentational consistency that less than 0.1% of users are likely even to notice.

Improving consistency is a laudable activity, and you are welcome to contribute to it, but do not assume the right to badger others into prioritising it over many, many other improvements that they may prefer to concentrate on. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.199.215.44 (talk) 19:22, 14 December 2023 (UTC)