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Want to know 41.116.237.22 (talk) 03:01, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello IP address!

Could you be more specific what you want to know about? 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう！) 03:04, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Correct error

My mother's name is incorrect in my father's entry. How do I fix that. Valkyrielively (talk) 03:40, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Your father's article has a "talk" page. Suggest the correction there, of course specifying a reliable source for what you say. 110.2.104.224 (talk) 03:50, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

@Valkyrielively I note that you made the change directly. It would have be much better if you had at the same time supplied a source for the whole paragraph in the "legacy" section, since a basic principle for Wikipedia is that readers be able to verify all content. I have now done so. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:27, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Lupton family

Can the file (1891 photo) added just now in the Alan Cecil Lupton section at the end of the page be made a tiny bit larger? Thank you if you can do this 115.70.23.77 (talk) 04:02, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

It looks fine to me, considering other similar images are about the same size. 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう！) 05:13, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Subcategories

Hi,

Category:Ice hockey clubs established in 2022

I'm unsure how I go about 'activating' the subcategory for 2023.

I have been updating this page Baton Rouge Pro Hockey (FPHL), which would fall into this subcategory for 2023.

thanks Meshel

MeshelMeares (talk) 07:24, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

@MeshelMeares: - I've created the category for you. Mjroots (talk) 16:03, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

You create the category almost like you would a new article. In this case, type "Category:category name in the search box and press "Go". Click on the redlink and type some text and/or the category of which you want this to be a subcategory. Press "Publish page" and you're done. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:05, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Globally locked user

If a user is globally locked, what it cannot do and what the user can do? Can the globally locked user still edit their own user talk page? Can it login to their own account? Vitaium (talk) 08:51, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Does the page you linked to not answer your questions? It says When an account is locked, attempts to log into it fail on all Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) public wikis, such as Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikimedia Commons, and Wikibooks, in all available languages. ColinFine (talk) 11:17, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

@Vitaium: And as the page you linked also says, their only recourse is to appeal their block via an email to the stewards. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:32, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Is there something in particular that has prompted your question? 331dot (talk) 11:25, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Does it mean the user is always unregistered/IP user forever until the user send appeal to the stewards until the steward accepts it and unlock the user? Vitaium (talk) 12:11, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

A globally locked user should not be attempting to edit a Wikimedia project at all until their global lock is removed. 331dot (talk) 12:12, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

To spell this out even more explicitly – although the lock is by necessity applied to the account, the block is aimed at the user of that account, so they should not evade it by trying to use a different (perhaps new) account or by editing as an IP – if the latter is detected, IP ranges can also be blocked, but as this potentially inconveniences other 'innocent' users who happen to have IPs in the range, it is something preferably avoided, and forcing its use will not help the sanctioned user's cause. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 51.198.140.169 (talk) 14:48, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

blacklisted

How can I unblacklist my article draft? Stellaindiasmith (talk) 09:51, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Stellaindiasmith Your draft Draft:Daniel Dugan was declined twice, it is not blacklisted? The topic is not notable and fails the criteria at WP:NARTIST. Theroadislong (talk) 09:58, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

it says "Your edit was not saved because it contains a new external link to a site registered on Wikipedia's blacklist or Wikimedia's global blacklist." Stellaindiasmith (talk) 12:48, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

@Stellaindiasmith: You tried to add a link to https://ndworld.guru/general-news/read/page/dugan_nd009. It is .guru which is blacklisted. Just avoid that. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:01, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

@Stellaindiasmith Your draft was WP:REFUNDed at your request after being deleted automatically because it had not been edited in six months. You can now work on it again to illustrate with good sourcing how Dugan is notable as Wikipedia defines that (linked above). Do not re-submit it for consideration until the draft shows he meets those criteria or it will be declined again. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:40, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Stellaindiasmith Clearly you tried to add a link to a website that is blacklisted, if you remove that link you can save your edits. Theroadislong (talk) 12:59, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

2024 MLB All-Star Game page

Can you fix the error i made please. 98.186.55.18 (talk) 14:58, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Or is it the error message saying "Check |url=value"? (It would help if you would specify the error you are asking for help on). If it is that, then the problem is that https://nbcsports.com/mlb/news/texas-rangers-to-host-2024-mlb all-star-game is not a valid URL, as it has a space in it.

The correct URL appears to be https://www.nbcsports.com/mlb/news/texas-rangers-to-host-2024-all-star-game . ColinFine (talk) 15:44, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

 Done, I fixed the infobox so it would appear in article. Is that the error you wanted help with? Cmr08 (talk) 15:13, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Can you please fix the error i made on the reference please thank you.98.186.55.18 (talk) 16:51, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

 Done, I fixed the reference so the error message is now gone. Is that the error you wanted help with? Cmr08 (talk) 18:36, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

How I'll get my own link ?

How Amanthapa10 (talk) 16:35, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Amanthapa10. It's not clear what you are asking.

I suspect that you might be making the common mistake of thinking that Wikipedia is like social media, where you have "a page" where you can tell people about yourself or your activities. It isn't. You can have your User page, User:Amanthapa10 (that link is red because you haven't created it yet), but that is for sharing information about yourself and your activities as a Wikipedia editor, and it will not get indexed by search engines.

The main part of Wikipedia consists of encyclopaedia articles: neutrally written articles about notable subjects, based entirely on what reliable published sources say about the subject. Unless you meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability (which most of us do not), there cannot and will not be an article about you. And if you do meet those criteria, there can be an article about you, but you are strongly discouraged from trying to write it yourself.

Does this answer you question? If it doesn't, then please clarify. ColinFine (talk) 16:57, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

what happened to my page preview on Android app?

My only option is to go to the articles or open another tab Pinaforemom (talk) 16:36, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

For questions about the app, the best place to ask is either WP:VPT, or mw:Apps ColinFine (talk) 16:59, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, I also posted in teahouse, fortunately got a response referencing your reply.

Unfortunately notification for this never arrived. I've registered with phabricator and will post a bug for android app, with this and other hyperlink issues incurred. Pinaforemom (talk) 18:42, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Using the Icelandic alphabet

I notice that the Goðafoss article uses alot of Icelandic letters, ones not found in the English alphabet. Is this . ... kosher? Carptrash (talk) 18:16, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

There is some guidance at MOS:ROMANISATION about the use of characters that are not commonly used in present-day English . Wikipedia generally follows the usage of reliable English language sources. TSventon (talk) 18:29, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Indexing Wikipedia Page

Hi there,

I was wondering how I could change the indexing of a wikipedia page I created. This is the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journal_of_Agriculture,_Food_Systems,_and_Community_Development Ed132132 (talk) 20:14, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Currently, it is being indexed on Google as Talk: Journal of Agriculture, Food Systems, and Community Development, and I was wondering how to remove the "Talk:" section of it. Thanks! Ed132132 (talk) 20:15, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

We have absolutely no control of how Google indexes anything. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:22, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Ed132132, somehow Google had found and indexed the Draft talk page, it seems, which is now a redirect to the talk page, so Google is showing that result. The main article itself was moved into the article space but has not yet been patrolled yet and is less than 90 days old so it will be marked as no index for search engines. See Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing for more details. When it has been patrolled and approved, or 90 days is reached, Google and other search engines will at some point begin indexing it and will probably replace the talk page in Google results. Skynxnex (talk) 20:35, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Help with featured topic

Hey, I'm on a crusade to get In Rainbows and associated articles to feautred/good articles as defined by the featured topic criteria. There are a few songs in the album that haven't been created (15 Step, Weird Fishes/Arpeggi, Faust Arp, Videotape). I've never done anything like this, so I'm hoping that someone more familiar with the rules can help me.

1. I'm pretty sure I would have to create an associated article for every song in the main album. However, would I have to create an associated article for every song in In Rainbows Disk 2, could I just make one article for all those songs, or does it not warrant an article?
2. Does In Rainbows – From the Basement need to be brought up to standard, or is it sufficiently far enough away from the album to not require it?

Thanks in advance! Cessaune [talk] 23:11, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Cessaune, I normally avoid hair-splitting over Wikipedia-related terminology -- notably the codswallop epitomized by "No, it is not 'her article'; it is 'the article about her'!" (which betrays a wilful ignorance of the uses of the genitive case) -- but really, crusade has undesirable connotations. In Rainbows is already a FA. I'm not familiar with this album, but find it very hard to believe that for any pop album constructed of ten tracks there's so much to say about every one of these ten that an FA-length article can be created for it other than by weighing it down with trivia, prolix anecdotes, imperceptive "reviews", so-called "references" that have occurred in "popular culture", and other soporific verbiage. And if it were so weighed down, it might (and I think should) fail FA candidacy for tedium. -- Hoary (talk) 00:43, 11 July 2023 (UTC) Cessaune, I seriously misread your question as asking whether, in order to be a featured topic, every subject that might be a spin-off from the title article (e.g. every track, if the title article is an album) needed to have an article and whether this in turn needed to be an FA. I blame serious caffeine deficiency (since rectified); but yes, other possible causes also come to mind. -- Hoary (talk) 01:29, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Well, I mean, Title (album) is a featured topic, so I think that provides sufficient precedent. And In Rainbows is considered a pretty good album critically, from a critically lauded band. Cessaune [talk] 00:47, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

I'm so ignorant of pop music: not only had I never heard of Title, I see that it's by someone named Meghan Trainor -- a completely unfamiliar name to me. My ignorance aside, does this article not answer one of your questions? I learn that the album's "standard edition" has 11 tracks. Only five of the 11 are linked to. I can't believe that all the other six have articles, and that nobody has yet got around to linking these: this is an FA, after all. And if it's a featured topic, then the lack of an article about each and every one of its tracks doesn't seem to have been an impediment. -- Hoary (talk) 01:22, 11 July 2023 (UTC)